Obama "Make sure your kids speak spanish"

you want spanish, go back to South America.

CWEBB04z

Mexico is in North America

[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

why not just learn english, people in China are learning English in schools, Almost everyone, people in europe have English as a second language, most the time, Everyone in America and most in Canada know English. Within 10 years English will be the most highly spoken language because everyone is learning it.

Harshvardhan666

Ah, so you want every other country to learn your language as a second language, but you complain about learning a second language yourself?

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

why not just learn english, people in China are learning English in schools, Almost everyone, people in europe have English as a second language, most the time, Everyone in America and most in Canada know English. Within 10 years English will be the most highly spoken language because everyone is learning it.

Oriental_Jams

Ah, so you want every other country to learn your language as a second language, but you complain about learning a second language yourself?

I don't have any use for it.I use english daily.Just saying that you should have a choice to learn languages you are interested in or have use for.I bet many people don't have any use for english.Harshvardhan666

If people are complaining that they had to do spanish and had no choice, it's probably due to the availability of italian/mandarin/clingon teachers rather than spanish being required by law. Over here in the UK it's "a foreign language" in the curriculum, but a lot of schools only have french because thats what most language teachers know in this country.

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"]I don't have any use for it.I use english daily.Just saying that you should have a choice to learn languages you are interested in or have use for.I bet many people don't have any use for english.Mr_sprinkles

If people are complaining that they had to do spanish and had no choice, it's probably due to the availability of italian/mandarin/clingon teachers rather than spanish being required by law. Over here in the UK it's "a foreign language" in the curriculum, but a lot of schools only have french because thats what most language teachers know in this country.

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

navigata

I think he has more of a problem with the idea of people coming here and 9trying) to force him to adopt their ways, when theyre the new guys. It shows a severe lack of respect for the people who are already here and already helped make this country what it is. If they want to be American then they shouldnt act like they have a chip on their shoulder towards everyone else.

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

jointed

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

Lonelynight

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

Lonelynight

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

It's not like it's any extra effort, if you go to school you're going to learn things anyway, why not make one of those things a language.

[QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

H8sMikeMoore

I think he has more of a problem with the idea of people coming here and 9trying) to force him to adopt their ways, when theyre the new guys. It shows a severe lack of respect for the people who are already here and already helped make this country what it is. If they want to be American then they shouldnt act like they have a chip on their shoulder towards everyone else.

Disagree I think Obama notices that our country compared to the european nations is behind in education when it comes to people be bi or multi lingual.. In Europe its very common.. Here I am lucky to even find a person who knows a second language.. This is a problem that needs to be fixed.. As I said earlier I think it would be a good idea to teach them in elementry school..

And please stop with this damn nationalism crap.. Its unproductive to this entire debate.

Nor is learning Chemistry :(Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="jointed"]

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

Lonelynight

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

Same thing can be said for all other subjects.

Spanish is probably the most spoken language in the world maybe other than English, so even if we didn't have an immigration problem, it wouldn't be a bad thing to learn. But immigrants should have to learn English.

If I wanted to move to France, I would have to learn French.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Nor is learning Chemistry :(Harshvardhan666

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

Oriental_Jams

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

It's not like it's any extra effort, if you go to school you're going to learn things anyway, why not make one of those things a language.

I don't need them to learn English I don't really want to travel the world, I don't plan on traveling across the world to talk to people about buisness, I plan on being a computer technician, which in America, only requires English. Now explain to me why it would be worth learning Spanish when I could easily take more computer classes and get preped in something I will actually need.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="jointed"]

Just learn the god damn language and stop complaining :roll: Bilingually is a good and useful thing.

Oriental_Jams

Learning a language is not really simple for most people.

It's not like it's any extra effort, if you go to school you're going to learn things anyway, why not make one of those things a language.

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="ProudLarry"]The TC is an idiot. Mexicans make up the largest nationality of LEGAL immigrants that come into this country through the proper channels. And Latinos as a whole make up the second largest group of legal immigrants, behind Asians. Its not just because of illegal immigrants. Clear-up your ignorance: Mr_sprinkles

"...Provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States" link

[QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Nor is learning Chemistry :(Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="ProudLarry"]The TC is an idiot. Mexicans make up the largest nationality of LEGAL immigrants that come into this country through the proper channels. And Latinos as a whole make up the second largest group of legal immigrants, behind Asians. Its not just because of illegal immigrants. Clear-up your ignorance: SIapshot

"...Provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States"

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Harshvardhan666"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Nor is learning Chemistry :(Harshvardhan666

It's stange how much harder physics is than maths for a lot of people. As soon as x and y become distance and time the question all of a sudden becomes a lot harder? :?

I'm Hispanic and can't speak a word of Spanish. Even took two years of it in high school. And my parents usually speak around me. It's pathetic.Grouchu

We're in a same boat my friend.

What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.-Austin-

I'll give you that, The numbers are a lot easier in chemistry.It's stange how much harder physics is than maths for a lot of people. As soon as x and y become distance and time the question all of a sudden becomes a lot harder? :?Mr_sprinkles

[QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

markop2003

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

That's pretty much all England has done in the last 10 years

[QUOTE="-Austin-"]What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.Mr_sprinkles

How is it fair? If it works that way pregnant mothers will just sneak in to give birth to there child in America. Every person should be subject to the due process.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-Austin-"]What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.-Austin-

How is it fair? If it works that way pregnant mothers will just sneak in to give birth to there child in America. Every person should be subject to the due process.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

ferron321

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

That's pretty much all England has done in the last 10 years

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-Austin-"]What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.-Austin-

How is it fair? If it works that way pregnant mothers will just sneak in to give birth to there child in America. Every person should be subject to the due process.

Yes we just see that every day :roll: thousands of pregnant women running a immense distance on foot to get across the border and give birth.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

ferron321

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

That's pretty much all England has done in the last 10 years

I can't think of any significant way it has changed. Maybe you should stop reading those tabloids.

I'm bilingual (I speak Spanish) and I have family members who are tri and quadrilingual. I want my children to be able to speak as many languages as possible. Spanish is one of the most common languages in the world, so people should want to learn it. And it would be the most useful for most American's to learn since there are many Spanish speaking people in the U.S. No one is being forced to learn Spanish

[QUOTE="-Austin-"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-Austin-"]What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.sSubZerOo

How is it fair? If it works that way pregnant mothers will just sneak in to give birth to there child in America. Every person should be subject to the due process.

Yes we just see that every day :roll: thousands of pregnant women running a immense distance on foot to get across the border and give birth.

Care is frequently provided to illegal immigrants by emergency rooms and is provided when a crisis exists rather than as preventive practice. Both phenomena add to the high cost of health care.

For 12 states, the government pays hospitals for providing emergency services to illegal aliens. In 2005, the state of California got $70 million to help with dismal shortfalls. California's San Diego County was about $100 million in the red and Los Angeles County about $140 million.

Many California hospitals cannot afford to absorb costs and many are forced to close due to financial mandates for treating illegal immigrants. As recently reported, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors forever. Hospital closure degrades health care to all in the community and results in job losses."
link

So now, everybody who earns their living and pays their way is suffering because of uninsured, illegal immigrants.

[QUOTE="-Austin-"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="-Austin-"]What are you two arguing about? Anchor babies should never be legal, end of story. It just gives you incentive to illegally enter the country.sSubZerOo

How is it fair? If it works that way pregnant mothers will just sneak in to give birth to there child in America. Every person should be subject to the due process.

Yes we just see that every day :roll: thousands of pregnant women running a immense distance on foot to get across the border and give birth.

Actually, I was under the assumption they crossed the border than got pregnant in America.....that's kind of logical.

Here in Canada at my school we have three options. Our first is we can go along with french until grade 12 or switch it for Japanese, Spanish or if were really dumb (Learning assistance)

In my opinion the government should not be forcing us to learn another language. I don't even see why Canada is considered 50% french when only 25% of the people who live here are.

More or less Obama is lame, vote for mccain!

[QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

markop2003

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

Well immigrants make up the country. If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language why shouldn't Spanish be made co-official along with English? Many nations are Bilingual. Canada is bilingual and I don't see mass chaos over there.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

BatmanBegins24

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language

I see no reason this should happen. We need better border security to keep out illegals and I doubt enough legal Spanish speaking immigrants will be coming here in the near future that it would represent more than half of the country.

They force you to learn it if you go to school in Miami.

Soon they'll probably make you learn Creole down there too.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

BatmanBegins24

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

Well immigrants make up the country. If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language why shouldn't Spanish be made co-official along with English? Many nations are Bilingual. Canada is bilingual and I don't see mass chaos over there.

because we shouldn't have to cater to them. why should WE make spanish one of the official languages when THEY are the ones coming over here to OUR country?

I'm Hispanic and can't speak a word of Spanish. Even took two years of it in high school. And my parents usually speak around me. It's pathetic.Grouchu

same here with me

I belive this sums up my feelings on this thread.

I'm Hispanic and can't speak a word of Spanish. Even took two years of it in high school. And my parents usually speak around me. It's pathetic.Grouchu

ROFL, same here.

[QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

shoeman12

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

Well immigrants make up the country. If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language why shouldn't Spanish be made co-official along with English? Many nations are Bilingual. Canada is bilingual and I don't see mass chaos over there.

because we shouldn't have to cater to them. why should WE make spanish one of the official languages when THEY are the ones coming over here to OUR country?

Unless you are of Native American (American Indian) descent, then it's not your country.

[QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

-Austin-

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language

I see no reason this should happen. We need better border security to keep out illegals and I doubt enough legal Spanish speaking immigrants will be coming here in the near future that it would represent more than half of the country.

I know MANY hispanics that speak Spanish as a second language and they keep the language alive in their progeny. Because of that you have generations of Spanish speaking people, especially in certain places in the U.S. When the Areas spread more people will learn. I even know hispanics who merry people of other ethnicities and still keep the language alive. Hispanic is the largest ethnic minority in the United States. There are more people of hispanic descent than German descent, Irish descent, British descent, ect.

[QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"][QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="navigata"]

lol thats ruff dude. Im Canadian n all, we have like no problems speakin french as a second language...Why is it that the us complains so much..

Its not like you HAVE TO learn it...

BatmanBegins24

in canada it's basically the scond language of the nation, with amerca it's new imigrants bringing it in so they should learn english, a country shouldn't have to change itself to cater for imigrants

If, in the future, more than half of the people here speak Spanish as a first language

I see no reason this should happen. We need better border security to keep out illegals and I doubt enough legal Spanish speaking immigrants will be coming here in the near future that it would represent more than half of the country.

I know MANY hispanics that speak Spanish as a second language and they keep the language alive in their progeny. Because of that you have generations of Spanish speaking people, especially in certain places in the U.S. When the Areas spread more people will learn. I even know hispanics who merry people of other ethnicities and still keep the language alive. Hispanic is the largest ethnic minority in the United States. There are more people of hispanic descent than German descent, Irish descent, British descent, ect.

But right now it isn't spoken as a first language by enough people that it would be an official language. It shouldn't be spoken as a first language here at all because we speak English here.

Unless you are of Native American (American Indian) descent, then it's not your country.

Oriental_Jams

Since when were Native Americans the founders of the United States?