Obama: Release your Birth Certificate

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/obama_mccain_us_citizens.html

Done, crazybell... xaos

well i guess thats that.

Done, crazybell... xaos

:o It's not good enough! There's a number blacked out! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!! HE'S A LEFT WING TERRORIST MUSLIM WACK JOB!!

:roll: And I wonder why the world thinks were idiots.

Do you really think the DNC would allow a non-American born person to run? Don't you think this has all been checked on behind the scenes? This is all just a conspiracy theory.spazzx625

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/12/corsi

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Mccain supporters really are getting desperate.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Done, crazybell... bsman00

well i guess thats that.

I wish that was good enough, I really do. I wish we could just move on, but we can't. See, there are two different versions of that document that've been released, and they show signs of tampering. Only by releasing an original hard copy can Obama put this behind him.

[QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Done, crazybell... mysterylobster

well i guess thats that.

I wish that was good enough, I really do. I wish we could just move on, but we can't. See, there are two different versions of that document that've been released, and they show signs of tampering. Only by releasing an original hard copy can Obama put this behind him.

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

Tazzmission187

your an idiot dude if obama was not an american born then why isnt the terminator running for president? arnold wasnt born in america and he cant run for president. so if obama was not born in this country he cant run. this is where i say religioun plays a factor in this thread and it pisses me off.

This has nothing to do with stupidity. It has nothing to do with ignorance. What this is is completely desperate. They can't handle it.

[QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Done, crazybell... mysterylobster

well i guess thats that.

I wish that was good enough, I really do.

NOTHING WILL EVER BE GOOD ENOUGH! No amount of documentation at all ever will EVER convice you that Obama is 100% american.

I wish that was good enough, I really do. I wish we could just move on, but we can't. See, there are two different versions of that document that've been released, and they show signs of tampering. Only by releasing an original hard copy can Obama put this behind him.

mysterylobster

Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......killtactics

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

[QUOTE="Tazzmission187"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

Maniacc1

your an idiot dude if obama was not an american born then why isnt the terminator running for president? arnold wasnt born in america and he cant run for president. so if obama was not born in this country he cant run. this is where i say religioun plays a factor in this thread and it pisses me off.

This has nothing to do with stupidity. It has nothing to do with ignorance. What this is is completely desperate. They can't handle it.

it has alot to do with ignorance.... for instance obamas mom is WHITE and american.... lobster is one of those christians who probably believe obamas an arab. just because a man has a muslim name makes him muslim? hell my last name is german so is lobster gona say im a nazi? its even been shown that john mccain himself gave money to that arabic guy prof back in 2003 and i dont see republicans attacking mccain for it. oh and lobster why question obama when mccain is getting endorsed by al-qaudia?

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......mysterylobster

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

It's ironic you say that considering you are a racist.

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......mysterylobster

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

I don't think anyone has an original copy of their birth certificate.MattUD1

Hawaii claims to have a copy of the original BC on record, but the Hawaii governor has put a seal on the document.

If it truly exists, this isn't a matter of not having access to the original document.

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="Tazzmission187"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

Tazzmission187

your an idiot dude if obama was not an american born then why isnt the terminator running for president? arnold wasnt born in america and he cant run for president. so if obama was not born in this country he cant run. this is where i say religioun plays a factor in this thread and it pisses me off.

This has nothing to do with stupidity. It has nothing to do with ignorance. What this is is completely desperate. They can't handle it.

it has alot to do with ignorance.... for instance obamas mom is WHITE and american.... lobster is one of those christians who probably believe obamas an arab. just because a man has a muslim name makes him muslim? hell my last name is german so is lobster gona say im a nazi? its even been shown that john mccain himself gave money to that arabic guy prof back in 2003 and i dont see republicans attacking mccain for it. oh and lobster why question obama when mccain is getting endorsed by al-qaudia?

Maybe you're right. Maybe he really honestly believes he's a Muslim. Or maybe he's just desperate. Who knows anymore. :P

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]

I don't think anyone has an original copy of their birth certificate.mysterylobster

Hawaii claims to have a copy of the original BC on record, but the Hawaii governor has put a seal on the document.

If it truly exists, this isn't a matter of not having access to the original document.

hahaha thats a joke right? where in my post does the word "Jew" occur? Thats so classic.... killtactics

Israel has Jewish people and you implied that there might be a few bad people within that community. Commie :o :P

It's way too easy to be called racist nowadays.

[QUOTE="Tazzmission187"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="Tazzmission187"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

Maniacc1

your an idiot dude if obama was not an american born then why isnt the terminator running for president? arnold wasnt born in america and he cant run for president. so if obama was not born in this country he cant run. this is where i say religioun plays a factor in this thread and it pisses me off.

This has nothing to do with stupidity. It has nothing to do with ignorance. What this is is completely desperate. They can't handle it.

it has alot to do with ignorance.... for instance obamas mom is WHITE and american.... lobster is one of those christians who probably believe obamas an arab. just because a man has a muslim name makes him muslim? hell my last name is german so is lobster gona say im a nazi? its even been shown that john mccain himself gave money to that arabic guy prof back in 2003 and i dont see republicans attacking mccain for it. oh and lobster why question obama when mccain is getting endorsed by al-qaudia?

Maybe you're right. Maybe he really honestly believes he's a Muslim. Or maybe he's just desperate. Who knows anymore. :P

my aunt is a bible thumper and she said she wont vote for a ( muslim) that right there states ignorance. i ask myself sometimes what would happen if a jewish guy ran? i guarente you there wont be racist remarks. mccains campaiihn runs on racsism and ignorance.

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......killtactics

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

You're promulgating the old anti-Semitic lie about Isreal trying to take over the world and calling the Israeli state "terorrist."

Don't try to play me for a fool.

:lol:, desparate attempts can be quite amusing

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:lol:, desparate attempts can be quite amusing

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-PaCMaN-

That's why found Obama's $30 million infomercial so funny. How scared are they of the McCain surge?

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="bsman00"]

[QUOTE="xaos"]Done, crazybell... MattUD1

well i guess thats that.

I wish that was good enough, I really do. I wish we could just move on, but we can't. See, there are two different versions of that document that've been released, and they show signs of tampering. Only by releasing an original hard copy can Obama put this behind him.

Mine is sitting in my safe at home.

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......mysterylobster

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

You're promulgating the old anti-Semitic lie about Isreal trying to take over the world and calling the Israeli state "terorrist."

Don't try to play me for a fool.

[QUOTE="-PaCMaN-"]

:lol:, desparate attempts can be quite amusing

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mysterylobster

That's why found Obama's $30 million infomercial so funny. How scared are they of the McCain surge?

Surge? Did he get struck by lighting or something? I hardly hear of anyone supporting McCain. Delusional perhaps?

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[QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......killtactics

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

You're promulgating the old anti-Semitic lie about Isreal trying to take over the world and calling the Israeli state "terorrist."

Don't try to play me for a fool.

And that alone is anti-Semitic. I'm surprised people jump all over me, but when there are truly disgusting remarks on these forums, they go unchecked. You should be ashamed.

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

mysterylobster

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="-PaCMaN-"]

:lol:, desparate attempts can be quite amusing

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-PaCMaN-

That's why found Obama's $30 million infomercial so funny. How scared are they of the McCain surge?

Surge? Did he get struck by lighting or something? I hardly hear of anyone supporting McCain. Delusional perhaps?

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john mccain could have P.T.S.D all jokes aside i believe he has it. i personaly dont want a guy with ptsd to run this country and start 6 wars he wants to go to war with the following

china

russia

north korea

stay in iraq

stay in afghanistan

invade pakistan.

now obama said for 3 years we need to focus on afghanistan and pakistan all of a sudden mr. im a p.o.w mccain is saying the same stuff but with other countries he wants to bomb

[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

[QUOTE="killtactics"]Your website is another example of the terrorist Israeli government trying to run America......mysterylobster

Let's keep anti-semitism out of this topic, okay?

You're promulgating the old anti-Semitic lie about Isreal trying to take over the world and calling the Israeli state "terorrist."

Don't try to play me for a fool.

And that alone is anti-Semitic. I'm surprised people jump all over me, but when there are truly disgusting remarks on these forums, they go unchecked. You should be ashamed.

There are even Jews who don't agree with Israel and its evil tactics....

I don't understand what the problem is with him officially releasing the document. It isn't that hard. If someone asked me to prove my citizenship, I'd just show them my birth certificate. What is the reason for Obama not releasing officially? Has he given one?

I doubt it is going to be a problem...but seriously, just release it.

And that alone is anti-Semitic. I'm surprised people jump all over me, but when there are truly disgusting remarks on these forums, they go unchecked. You should be ashamed.

mysterylobster

Sorry, but you have the wrong idea. He doesn't like the Israeli government, the fact that Israel is occupied by mostly Jewish people isn't a factor. I personally don't like China because of the way it treats it's citizens, particularly ones that openly want democracy. Doesn't mean I'm racist to Chinese people.

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

mysterylobster

You're right!!! This very post just made me vote for McCain !!!

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. This should be a bipartisan issue--Democrats should be demanding that their candidate be more upfront about his past, not shrouding it in secrecy. Republicans asked John McCain for proof of his eligibility, and he produced an original copy of his birth certificate for his party and for the media.

There are reasons to doubt Obama's story. The certificate he's provided is surrounded by questions. Why does one copy have a seal and another does not? Why black out the numbers? What is Obama trying to hide by manipulating these electronic documents, and why has denied the media a actual copy of the document?

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

Obama supporters are only hurting themselves by not demanding more openness from their candidate. This could very well prove to be a huge setback for the party. If Obama has the document, then he should release it and end this now, just as his opponent did already. If he has nothing to hide, then what's the problem?

ishoturface

Speaketh thine trutheth!!

give it up obama and mccain are both us cititzen enough is enough

I don't understand what the problem is with him officially releasing the document. It isn't that hard. If someone asked me to prove my citizenship, I'd just show them my birth certificate. What is the reason for Obama not releasing officially? Has he given one?

I doubt it is going to be a problem...but seriously, just release it.

FragStains

he already has given his out, multiple fact checks have found it to be a real copy of his birth certificate. But off course people like mysterylobster are so blinded by their bias they dont believe it was real, the whole arguement is a joke.

[QUOTE="FragStains"]

I don't understand what the problem is with him officially releasing the document. It isn't that hard. If someone asked me to prove my citizenship, I'd just show them my birth certificate. What is the reason for Obama not releasing officially? Has he given one?

I doubt it is going to be a problem...but seriously, just release it.

SaintLeonidas

he already has given his out, multiple fact checks have found it to be a real copy of his birth certificate. But off course people like mysterylobster are so blinded by their bias they dont believe it was real, the whole arguement is a joke.

give it up obama and mccain are both us cititzen enough is enough

fbigent34

You might want to compare this document with the one posted earlier. See any differences? The electronic version was altered.

Then there's the case of his maternal grandmother, who apparently was in the delivery room in Kenya when Barack Hussein Obama was born. If his grandmother is correct, then he is ineligible to be President of the United States. Isn't it strange how just when this was going to court, he visits his grandmother in Hawaii after not being photographed together for 25 years? Even the hospital he was born in has been subject to revision by family members and Obama himself.

mysterylobster

I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that Obama was born in Kenya (but he was born in Hawaii), but his mother was an American which gives him citizen ship.

Besides John McCain wasn't born in the US he was born in Panama but his parents are Americans Citizen so that means he's anAmerican Citizen.