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[QUOTE="Ringx55"]Why are people opposed to this? So what if they have your DNA? As long as you don't commit any other crimes you won't lose anything. Its for the better in the end.VandalvideoI'd rather them not clone me? One Vandal is enough for this world. Holy cripes, he's right! I was going to be on board for this, but the thought of two Vandals has scared me straight! Just kidding, you're alright, kid! :P Despite my usual pro-privacy stance, I'm OK with this. It seems similar to recording finger prints to me.
Hey don't put yourself in a position where you will have to give your DNA. I think its pretty obvious if you are getting your DNA sampled then you know what? You were doing something that you weren't supposed tobe doingin the first place. With that being said, if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you'll be fine.
Top reason people will disagree with this post: They believe the government and any law enforcement body is corrupt, or is corruptible through any means.Hey don't put yourself in a position where you will have to give your DNA. I think its pretty obvious if you are getting your DNA sampled then you know what? You were doing something that you weren't supposed tobe doingin the first place. With that being said, if you aren't doing anything wrong, then you'll be fine.
xscrapzx
The biggest issue I see with doing this is that if they begin to use the DNA for anything else. I'm okay with doing this, as long as it just sits somewhere.
Once again I disagree with Barack Obama, although I am sure the Republicans would not oppose this measure were they in power as it reeks of "The Patriot Act" stench. It certainly seems to be an unreasonable amount of information to entrust to a monopolistic entity.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So if you get arrested for disturbing the peace...you think it's reasonable for the government to have your DNA? Because I find that very unreasonable.VandalvideoSure, if they frame the search as a means to weed out people with disadvantageous genes that may need specialized care, or if they find a 'murderer' gene like they have been discussing, it could help as well. There are numerous advances in geneology which may aid the efficient operation of a prison. If the end is to fight crime, then should they also be allowed to search my house, my car, and tap my phones if I'm arrested for disturbing the peace?
[QUOTE="vidplayer8"]What else would they do with it?The biggest issue I see with doing this is that if they begin to use the DNA for anything else. I'm okay with doing this, as long as it just sits somewhere.
mattbbpl
Anything I can think of just sounds like science fiction.
But a thought just popped into my head, what if the whole database gets hacked? Its not like the federal government hasn't been hacked before amirite?
Sure, if they frame the search as a means to weed out people with disadvantageous genes that may need specialized care, or if they find a 'murderer' gene like they have been discussing, it could help as well. There are numerous advances in geneology which may aid the efficient operation of a prison. If the end is to fight crime, then should they also be allowed to search my house, my car, and tap my phones if I'm arrested for disturbing the peace? If they have a warrant, yes.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So if you get arrested for disturbing the peace...you think it's reasonable for the government to have your DNA? Because I find that very unreasonable.danwallacefan
What else would they do with it?[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="vidplayer8"]
The biggest issue I see with doing this is that if they begin to use the DNA for anything else. I'm okay with doing this, as long as it just sits somewhere.
vidplayer8
Anything I can think of just sounds like science fiction.
But a thought just popped into my head, what if the whole database gets hacked? Its not like the federal government hasn't been hacked before amirite?
What are people going to do with a bunch of files of DNA?[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]If the end is to fight crime, then should they also be allowed to search my house, my car, and tap my phones if I'm arrested for disturbing the peace? If they have a warrant, yes. well why do they get to take my DNA without a warrant?[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Sure, if they frame the search as a means to weed out people with disadvantageous genes that may need specialized care, or if they find a 'murderer' gene like they have been discussing, it could help as well. There are numerous advances in geneology which may aid the efficient operation of a prison. PannicAtack
If they have a warrant, yes. well why do they get to take my DNA without a warrant?[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] If the end is to fight crime, then should they also be allowed to search my house, my car, and tap my phones if I'm arrested for disturbing the peace?
danwallacefan
My thoughts exactly.
Don't understand the oppossition here. If anything this will likely help cut down on the number of false convictions simply because they will have more DNA to try and match with, which they can then easily find said criminal rather than trying to make a weaker case against someone who is just a suspect.
After all, it is DNA evidence that is EXONERATING people who have been sentenced to death.
The only concern here is that the info needs to be handled properly. Just saw a case on TV where they had the criminal, thought they had the DNA evidence on him, he claims innocence and demands a blood test which turned out NEGATIVE......because he had switched his DNA with someone else and they eventually found that out....
Oh, please. The Bush administration left us with 1.3 trillion dollars in debt. I can sure as hell blame a Republican administration and a Republican congress for that.[QUOTE="MarcusAntonius"]
Obama has had his supermajority and has accomplished next to nothing except more debt. To blame things on a nearly powerless Republican minority is absurd.
PannicAtack
And we're on our way to 9.7 trillion, your point?
[QUOTE="vidplayer8"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] What else would they do with it?PannicAtack
Anything I can think of just sounds like science fiction.
But a thought just popped into my head, what if the whole database gets hacked? Its not like the federal government hasn't been hacked before amirite?
What are people going to do with a bunch of files of DNA?Frame political enemies for crimes that they did not commit.
Some people here act as if though no government official in position of authority has ever been motivated by malice to frame a rival unjustly. Some people here act as if though corruption in government has never happened in the past and will never happen in the future.
If you think that government is beyond the vice of corruption, then I have some freshly opened land in Micronesia to sell to you..
1984 here we come!
Finger prints are one thing
Something that contains genetic information, which can tell you numerous things about the persons is another. Hey you are susceptible to cancer, no life insurance or health care for you!
[QUOTE="vidplayer8"]What else would they do with it?The biggest issue I see with doing this is that if they begin to use the DNA for anything else. I'm okay with doing this, as long as it just sits somewhere.
mattbbpl
Here's another scary thing that could happen with your DNA on file. A prominent governor, with friends in high places and many political favors owed to him, finds out that he has a rare form of cancer of the liver and needs a transplant. After searching legal means for a donor without success, the governor turns to the criminal DNA database for answers. He stumbles upon your DNA, collected by authorities during the investigation of a crime of which you were exonerated, and finds that it is a suitable match for a liver transplant.
You disappear while the governor makes a miraculous recovery just in time for the next presidential election. The media hails the governor's medical recovery and praises his fortitude while you are but a brief footnote on page 7. The governor goes on to become president while your disappearance is tossed in the pile along with the thousands of other missing persons cases that happen every year.
A great many people in our government and in governments around the world are corrupt enough to carry on such a scheme.
Don't believe me? Search "Israel harvests the organs of Palestinians". Good day.
What are people going to do with a bunch of files of DNA?[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="vidplayer8"]
Anything I can think of just sounds like science fiction.
But a thought just popped into my head, what if the whole database gets hacked? Its not like the federal government hasn't been hacked before amirite?
dkrustyklown
Frame political enemies for crimes that they did not commit.
Some people here act as if though no government official in position of authority has ever been motivated by malice to frame a rival unjustly. Some people here act as if though corruption in government has never happened in the past and will never happen in the future.
If you think that government is beyond the vice of corruption, then I have some freshly opened land in Micronesia to sell to you..
Of course everyone knows governments can be corrupt, but its not like it happens every second like you're implying.Please Log In to post.
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