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#1 Stesilaus
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In an address to the Irish Parliament earlier this month, politician Clare Daly lambasted Irish leaders for "slobbering" and fawning over Obama and his wife.

And she didn't mince words in her characterization of Obama as a war criminal. :)

Highlights:

1:15: "Is this person [Obama] going for the Hypocrite of the Century award? Because we have to call things by their right names and the reality is that, by any serious examination, this man is a war criminal."

2:02: "This is the man who has facilitated a 200% increase in the use of drones, which have killed thousands of people including hundreds of children."

2:25: [To politician Enda Kenny] "... you have showcased us [The Irish] as a nation of pimps, prostituting ourselves in return for a pat on the head."

3:15: [To Enda Kenny] "What steps are you going to take to showcase this country not as a lapdog of US imperialism, but as an independent nation with an independent foreign policy which takes a lead in international diplomacy to outlaw the use of drones, the favorite method of extermination of your friend Mr Obama?"

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#2 ClassicRockFTW
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I really hate to use this phrase, but she REALLY need to check her privileges.

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#3 nomsayin
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Obama has done some pretty war criminal type crap

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#5 nomsayin
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lol Nobel Peace Prize winner 

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#6 Necrifer
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As he should be.

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#7 JML897
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So what did the Irish government do exactly that made her so upset
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#8 Stesilaus
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So what did the Irish government do exactly that made her so upsetJML897

They approved the lifting of an arms embargo that previously prevented European countries from arming the NATO-sponsored terrorists in Syria.

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#9 mattbbpl
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What war crime is she accusing him of committing?
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#10 hartsickdiscipl
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He is a war criminal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrTeBDetcfw&feature=player_embedded#at=700

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#11 Ninja-Hippo
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What war crime is she accusing him of committing?mattbbpl
Using drones to kill thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children. It's right there in the OP.
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Send Obama and Bush to the Hague for a war crimes trial. That will make the Republican happy because it will get Obama out of office. Oh wait, many of them approve of what Obama is doing, so they could be considered accomplices.

This is so incredibly stupid.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]What war crime is she accusing him of committing?Ninja-Hippo
Using drones to kill thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children. It's right there in the OP.

It amazes me how politicians can justify the massacre of children in their minds. Guess most of them are sociopaths.
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]What war crime is she accusing him of committing?Ninja-Hippo
Using drones to kill thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children. It's right there in the OP.

The OP stated that he increased the use of drones, but I'm not fluent in international law. Is the act of using drones itself a war crime?
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a lead in international diplomacy to outlaw the use of drones

Stesilaus

This.

This is the crux of all that is wrong with the modern liberal movement, and why I'm starting to get the impression that for 95% of the people, the whole concept of liberalism is nothing but a trend they follow because the talking heads in the magic black box told them so.

"HURR, X DOES BAD THINGS SOMETIMES, THEREFOR WE MUST BAN IT FOR ETERNITY, DURR!!"

They did the same thing with nuclear energy. Nuclear energy was potentially dangerous. Rather than organizing protests to force the government to pass tighter regulations on the industry, make them follow stricter safety protocols, they organized protests which went all "HURR, BAN EVERYTHING NUCLEAR, FOREVER!" Now we have no safe nuclear energy, no alternative energy solutions in sight, and an ecosystem utterly devastated by the coal and oil energy production. Congratulations.

Is there even a single coherent thought in those people's heads?

"HURR, DRONES BAD, BAN ALL DRONES!!".

Fine, we'll ban them. Rather than enforcing stricter rules of engagement on the operators and spotters, we'll just ban it altogether.

And the next time we need a precision strike on target, we'll just move in a manned jet on location to hit it, thus doing the exact same thing, only with quadrupled costs. And with the same bad rules of engagement, which were the actual problem from the get-go...

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STFU Ireland we almost done with Afghan - want some?
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#17 Riverwolf007
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derp.

everyone is guilty but you only get prosecuted for war crimes if you are on the losing side.

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#18 WhiteKnight77
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Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield? 

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#19 branketra
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Both Obama and former president Bush Jr. are guilty of war crimes and should get brought to an international court and be given trials for their illegal actions. I am saying this as a United States citizen.

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#20 Fightingfan
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Both Obama and former president Bush Jr. are guilty of war crimes and should get brought to an international court and be given trials for their illegal actions. I am saying this as a United States citizen.

BranKetra
Bush family and CIA are like this "<3" you wanna end up in Guantanamo?
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#21 ThaneKrios28
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Obama has done some pretty war criminal type crap

nomsayin
what politician hasnt? also who are the irish to judge when they have the ira?
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#22 frannkzappa
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Obama has done nothing even remotely like a war crime.

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#23 ThaneKrios28
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Obama has done nothing even remotely like a war crime.

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using drones killing innocent pakistanis is indeed a war crime i dont take sides in politics but lets not pretend that hasnt happened just like how we cant pretend tourture at gitmo never happened and imo both sides are at fault for that
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Obama has done nothing even remotely like a war crime.

ThaneKrios28

using drones killing innocent pakistanis is indeed a war crime i dont take sides in politics but lets not pretend that hasnt happened just like how we cant pretend tourture at gitmo never happened and imo both sides are at fault for that

how in the **** are drones war crimes, they kill less civilians than conventional devices.

gitmo is a different matter entirely.

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Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

WhiteKnight77

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]What war crime is she accusing him of committing?nomsayin
Using drones to kill thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children. It's right there in the OP.

It amazes me how politicians can justify the massacre of children in their minds. Guess most of them are sociopaths.

Terrorists do the same, so do the governments the US is going against. Children will die either way, that's why the woman in the OP is an idiot. She attacks Obama for doing something other nations do as well. Just on a different level. Mind her business.
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

Stesilaus

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

Are you Syrian?

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

Stesilaus

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

 

No, I am referring to the ones where drone strikes are being used that everyone is complaining about. As far as Syria goes, why are you calling the rebels terrorists (yes, I am aware that Al-Quaeda are now operating in Syria now and most likely are doing exactly that) when rebels in Egypt were not called terrorists when they were fighting to overthrow Mubarak? How about those rebels in Libya that overthrew Khadaffi? Are they terrorists too?

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derp.

everyone is guilty but you only get prosecuted for war crimes if you are on the losing side.

Riverwolf007

 

Has America been winning the war on Terrorism?  

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

derp.

everyone is guilty but you only get prosecuted for war crimes if you are on the losing side.

BestMovieAlive

 

Has America been winning the war on Terrorism?  

What war? Get lost.
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#31 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="BestMovieAlive"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

derp.

everyone is guilty but you only get prosecuted for war crimes if you are on the losing side.

TheWalkingGhost

Has America been winning the war on Terrorism?  

What war? Get lost.

The one Osama bin Laden declared in 1996.

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well...if the shoe fits.
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#33 frannkzappa
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well...if the shoe fits.thebest31406

and it doesn't...

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="BestMovieAlive"]

Has America been winning the war on Terrorism?  

WhiteKnight77

What war? Get lost.

The one Osama bin Laden declared in 1996.

The guy who got killed....Worked well for him.....:P
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#35 LJS9502_basic
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Who cares?
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

The one Osama bin Laden declared in 1996.

TheWalkingGhost

The guy who got killed....Worked well for him.....:P

Yeah, that is him, but I don't believe that Al Qaeda or other terrorist orginazations have tossed out said declaration and gave up trying to attack western interests due to his death.  

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He is a war criminal..... BTW, this speech from Claire Daly was in response to the gov reacting to Michelle Obama visiting Ireland and our Prime Minister appearing to care more about that then fixing our f*cked economy and is weeks old
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As far as Syria goes, why are you calling the rebels terrorists (yes, I am aware that Al-Quaeda are now operating in Syria now and most likely are doing exactly that) when rebels in Egypt were not called terrorists when they were fighting to overthrow Mubarak?

WhiteKnight77

Well, for starters, the rebels in Egypt didn't execute captives and eat their internal organs on camera. More importantly, though, the Egyptian rebels were actually Egyptian, while the Free Syrian Army is composed mostly of Sunni Islamists from the NATO puppet nations of the GCC (like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, etc.) and from Libya.

How about those rebels in Libya that overthrew Khadaffi? Are they terrorists too?

WhiteKnight77

Yes.

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#39 Stesilaus
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Who cares?LJS9502_basic

Nobody who doesn't care for the truth.

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#40 Flubbbs
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well said irish lady!

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

Stesilaus

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

The rebels certainly are less than righteous, but you cant seriously be siding with Assad. Can you?
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

sonicare

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

The rebels certainly are less than righteous, but you cant seriously be siding with Assad. Can you?

My point exactly. 

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

WhiteKnight77

The rebels certainly are less than righteous, but you cant seriously be siding with Assad. Can you?

My point exactly. 

I mean Assad isnt defending the nation. He's killing his own people to maintain his hold on the nation. That's quite a difference. The idea that the "syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation' is laughable.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Who cares?Stesilaus

Nobody who doesn't care for the truth.

Who cares what the f*ck some chick in the Irish Parliament says....seriously.
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]The rebels certainly are less than righteous, but you cant seriously be siding with Assad. Can you?sonicare

My point exactly. 

I mean Assad isnt defending the nation. He's killing his own people to maintain his hold on the nation. That's quite a difference. The idea that the "syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation' is laughable.

Exactly. I don't agree with his actions either nor his use of chemical weapons. Finding rebels that are not part of terrorists groups that have infiltrated the country to fight against Assad makes it harder to get any arms to those who really need them as was done in Libya. What Assad is doing is no different than what Saddam Hussein did while he was in power, especially after Desert Storm.

 

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#46 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Maybe Ireland would like to put some boots on the ground to help take out those who are hiding amongst the population and using the populace as a human shield?

sonicare

Are you referring to the FSA terrorists whom Obama is now arming openly?

They so seem to love hiding amongst civilians when the Syrian airforce operates in defense of the nation.

The rebels certainly are less than righteous, but you cant seriously be siding with Assad. Can you?

I most certainly can---and do---side with Assad!

He's trying to defend a modern, secular nation that has, for decades, been tolerant of all religions (including Christianity and Judaism) from fanatics who want to establish a Sunni Islamic theocracy.

You can't seriously be siding with the "rebels", can you?

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I don't think Obama is a war criminal, even though he's doing the same things Bush did and liberals called HIM a war criminal.

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#48 Stesilaus
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I don't think Obama is a war criminal, even though he's doing the same things Bush did and liberals called HIM a war criminal.

airshocker

They're both war criminals. They should hang from the same gallows. One can serve as the counterweight for the other. :|

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she's hot

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I don't think Obama is a war criminal, even though he's doing the same things Bush did and liberals called HIM a war criminal.

Stesilaus

They're both war criminals. They should hang from the same gallows. One can serve as the counterweight for the other. :|

you need to go outside and see what the real world is like.