Obama tries to shorten Summer Vacation!?!?!

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#101 Sunsha
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]How long do you get in the US? We have 6 weeks in England, but much of Europe has longer summer hols.weezyfb
in japan there is school all year round

They also only get Sunday off in a week. Yes?
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#102 Lief_Ericson
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That is a stupid idea

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#103 Hewkii
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But, honestly, If children were given government vouchers to choose where they went to school, schools would have and incentive to improve.Lab392
yeah, there wouldn't be just a bunch of schools closing because they're inadequate, and then the remaining schools would be overcrowded. not at all.
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#104 DA_B0MB
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Well being a senior I simply don't care lol. I actually had my last summer shortened by half a month because I moved to Florida where school starts earlier than from where I came from. It's really not a big deal.
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#105 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="weezyfb"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]How long do you get in the US? We have 6 weeks in England, but much of Europe has longer summer hols.Sunsha
in japan there is school all year round

They also only get Sunday off in a week. Yes?

If that were the US' policy...:cry:

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#106 0Tyler0
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I don't like it, but other countries do have more time in school there, and some of them are beating us.
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#107 Dariency
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Well, we wanted change, we're getting it.

Kids are already getting weighed down by homework, tests, study, ect. Adding a few extra hours to that would make it worse, that would mean that kids would have to squeeze their homework, study, and leisure activity into an even shorter remainder of the day. I assume that though that Obama will still let them have weekends off?

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#108 x8VXU6
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well I be bored at home over the summer so a shorter summer vacation would be fine but longer skool days HELL NO

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#109 Gaming-Planet
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Yeah, make more kids stressed and die young.

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#110 Lab392
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]But, honestly, If children were given government vouchers to choose where they went to school, schools would have and incentive to improve.Hewkii
yeah, there wouldn't be just a bunch of schools closing because they're inadequate, and then the remaining schools would be overcrowded. not at all.

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

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#111 LJS9502_basic
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Well, we wanted change, we're getting it.

Kids are already getting weighed down by homework, tests, study, ect. Adding a few extra hours to that would make it worse, that would mean that kids would have to squeeze their homework, study, and leisure activity into an even shorter remainder of the day. I assume that though that Obama will still let them have weekends off?

dog64
But doesn't he want forced community service by school children? Or did he give that up as well?
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Lab392"]But, honestly, If children were given government vouchers to choose where they went to school, schools would have and incentive to improve.Lab392

yeah, there wouldn't be just a bunch of schools closing because they're inadequate, and then the remaining schools would be overcrowded. not at all.

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

But would those schools have good teachers?

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#113 Dariency
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

Well, we wanted change, we're getting it.

Kids are already getting weighed down by homework, tests, study, ect. Adding a few extra hours to that would make it worse, that would mean that kids would have to squeeze their homework, study, and leisure activity into an even shorter remainder of the day. I assume that though that Obama will still let them have weekends off?

LJS9502_basic

But doesn't he want forced community service by school children? Or did he give that up as well?

I haven't heard anything else about it since it was introduced.

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#114 fidosim
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Ugh, back in high school, classes used to start a little bit later on Wednesdays, but then the school district had to add more hours to the school week. The result was that we had this 1 1/2 hour time slot in the middle of the day that was supposed to be reserved for studying, getting homework help, etc. The problem was you had to be there, whether you needed the extra help or not. The result was that most students, myself included, would spend an hour and a half every wednesday sleeping on our desks or staring at the wall. I can't imagine having to add 3 hours.
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#115 Hewkii
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There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

Lab392
ah yes, that's a good idea. "Come to the McDonalds Academy, where Nutrition is our Number One goal."
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#116 Z0MBIES
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This would probably have an adverse effect. What needs to be done is shorter school days, just more of them. With just longer school days I'm nearly positive there would be higher drop out rates and higher skip rates, therefore leading to a worse educational system.
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#117 CJL13
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[QUOTE="dog64"]

Well, we wanted change, we're getting it.

Kids are already getting weighed down by homework, tests, study, ect. Adding a few extra hours to that would make it worse, that would mean that kids would have to squeeze their homework, study, and leisure activity into an even shorter remainder of the day. I assume that though that Obama will still let them have weekends off?

LJS9502_basic

But doesn't he want forced community service by school children? Or did he give that up as well?

Children of the Damned am confirmed.

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#118 Lab392
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"] yeah, there wouldn't be just a bunch of schools closing because they're inadequate, and then the remaining schools would be overcrowded. not at all. CJL13

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

But would those schools have good teachers?

If the schools wanted to stay in business, they would.

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#119 jimmyjammer69
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

Hewkii

ah yes, that's a good idea. "Come to the McDonalds Academy, where Nutrition is our Number One goal."

You joke, but...

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[QUOTE="weezyfb"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]How long do you get in the US? We have 6 weeks in England, but much of Europe has longer summer hols.Sunsha
in japan there is school all year round

They also only get Sunday off in a week. Yes?


No there isn't school year round, and no they dont only get Sunday off.
However, summer break is within the school year and its a little under a months worht of time off. You also get homework during this time and the 'clubs' or afterschool activities such as sports teams, technology club, etc are still active so you still have to attend whatever the schedule for those are. They are usually mandatory aswell. There is two weeks in april when all schooling is done for the year, as the school year starts in april and ends in late march(I think, its somewhere around those months) thats their "summer break"
For school on saturdays, those clubs are still on however ****s usually are not. This does depend on the high school though. For junior high, only clubs on sat, nothing on sunday and thats the same throughout I think.
Elementary school doesnt have the clubs, except for once a week.

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#121 Bourbons3
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The US does have a short school year compared with many countries. The school calendar is based on an out of date idea, because hardly any kids work on the fields. And even if they did, their education is just as important.
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#122 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="Lab392"]

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

jimmyjammer69

ah yes, that's a good idea. "Come to the McDonalds Academy, where Nutrition is our Number One goal."

You joke, but...

:lol:

Hamburger Academy!?!

I'm a transfer now...:P

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#123 soldier-dark
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My school district currently employs a 12 week summer. I absolutely hate it. My summers are very boring and the homework I'm supposed to do doesn't even take very long. I see no problems with extending the school year.
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#124 zeldaluff
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Where did I say that? I just said teachers, as a whole, need to actually start teaching again. Not just surfing the web all class while the students read the text.

Pirate700

I agree completely. I almost failed physics, probably due to my teacher who did nothing except look up recipesduring the whole class. I swear, she probably could have written a cookbook by the end of the semester.

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#125 samuraiguns
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i swear.......Obama if you pass this i will personally hunt you down:P nah but seriously that is stupid

l4dak47

Thank God. Summer vacation is nothing but misery. And God knows the little brats need more time in school.

GO OBAMA!

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speak for yourself... school is tough.
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#126 Lab392
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]

There's nothing stopping rich entrepreneurs from starting their own schools to take advantage of the situation, thus alleviating the overcrowding.

Hewkii

ah yes, that's a good idea. "Come to the McDonalds Academy, where Nutrition is our Number One goal."

The system is working fairly well throughout Europe. It isn't half as scary as it sounds.

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#127 LJS9502_basic
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/p>

:lol:

Hamburger Academy!?!

I'm a transfer now...:P

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That's their management training I believe. It's not a secret.

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#128 fidosim
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[QUOTE="zeldaluff"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Where did I say that? I just said teachers, as a whole, need to actually start teaching again. Not just surfing the web all class while the students read the text.

I agree completely. I almost failed physics, probably due to my teacher who did nothing except look up recipesduring the whole class. I swear, she probably could have written a cookbook by the end of the semester.

Ha, I had a computer class where the teacher handed us a massive workbook to work through all semester while he played Myst. I swear, it seems like it's way too hard for a bad teacher to get fired.
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#129 CJL13
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[QUOTE="zeldaluff"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Where did I say that? I just said teachers, as a whole, need to actually start teaching again. Not just surfing the web all class while the students read the text.

fidosim

I agree completely. I almost failed physics, probably due to my teacher who did nothing except look up recipesduring the whole class. I swear, she probably could have written a cookbook by the end of the semester.

Ha, I had a computer class where the teacher handed us a massive workbook to work through all semester while he played Myst. I swear, it seems like it's way too hard for a bad teacher to get fired.

And no student tattled on him cause?

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#130 Hewkii
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The system is working fairly well throughout Europe. It isn't half as scary as it sounds.

Lab392
what are the ages of these independent schools?
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#131 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Lab392"]

The system is working fairly well throughout Europe. It isn't half as scary as it sounds.

Hewkii

what are the ages of these independent schools?

They usually finish required schooling earlier though.....

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#132 tman93
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To be honest kids these days need more school, not only for themselves but so we will be able to compete with other countries in the long term.
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#133 fidosim
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And no student tattled on him cause?

CJL13
Some students did tattle on him, but the school didn't bother doing anything about it. Other students used the opportunity to play halo LAN matches. School is a joke. Back in middle school, I had a science teacher who was well known as a pervert. He would flirt with all of the 13 year old girls. He got reported again and again, for years. And only just recently was he fired. If it takes that long to fire a pedophile, something is seriously wrong.
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#134 EVOLV3
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Good'ol Canada, where the summers are long.

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#135 Hewkii
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They usually finish required schooling earlier though.....

LJS9502_basic
I meant date of founding, sorry.
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#136 DarknessLion
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Seeing as how this effect me I hope that summer vacations do get shorten. For me summer vacations are just a bit too lenghty to be out of school. But thats just my 50 cent..
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#137 danwallacefan
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it just seems like a lazily thought out solution to the problem

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#138 cs45F
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This is stupid more time in school won't do anything if you don't wanna learn you won't that's why kids in other country's do better because they want to learn.
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#139 D0ub13_5c0r3
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God, I would hate Obama if he did..
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#140 Hewkii
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reposting because it's true:

these responses foreshadow the average age of this forum.

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#141 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"]reposting because it's true:

these responses foreshadow the average age of this forum.

I think the other thread did.....
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#142 sonic__323
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*Sigh* Obama, you disappoint me. -_-

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#143 dann14v
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Man, I'd hate it if I had to learn more in school. Being stupid is fun.

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#144 xkojimax
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it's going to make kids rebel and revolt.
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#145 svm128
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I hope this is going to be for next year. I am in the 11th grade and this is going to be my last summer break.

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#146 fidosim
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Man, I'd hate it if I had to learn more in school. Being stupid is fun.

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I've never seen school make someone smarter.
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#147 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="dann14v"]

Man, I'd hate it if I had to learn more in school. Being stupid is fun.

fidosim

I've never seen school make someone smarter.

Mind explaining how you're reading all of this and able to type a response? With correct grammar and spelling no less?

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#148 themagicbum9720
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i don't care, i don't have a summer vacation anyway.
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#149 mayforcebeyou
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america is to lazy he is trying to help lazyness. Obama is a hard worker.
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#150 Serraph105
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I must say this doesnt seem very well thought out. For the first time I find myself very much against Obama and for the second time I feel like this a bad choice (though the first time there we no good choices unlike now). Kids need to be kids, and this will not make them all go yay we get to learn more! Quite the contrary, even good students will be groaning at this. Not to mention the teachers do have lives outside of school and since they are already at school longer than the kids are this will be bad for them.Also consideringour public schools are funded by taxes and the schools will have to pay the teachers for those extra three hours a day that means taxes will go up (again).

This just isn't very well thought out.