Obama tries to shorten Summer Vacation!?!?!

Obama, shortening summer ≠ better work in classrooms. If you want to make schools better, fund them to make them better.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="dann14v"]

Man, I'd hate it if I had to learn more in school. Being stupid is fun.

Mind explaining how you're reading all of this and able to type a response? With correct grammar and spelling no less?

I must say this doesnt seem very well thought out. For the first time I find myself very much against Obama and for the second time I feel like this a bad choice (though the first time there we no good choices unlike now). Kids need to be kids, and this will not make them all go yay we get to learn more! Quite the contrary, even good students will be groaning at this. Not to mention the teachers do have lives outside of school and since they are already at school longer than the kids are this will be bad for them.Also consideringour public schools are funded by taxes and the schools will have to pay the teachers for those extra three hours a day that means taxes will go up (again).

This just isn't very well thought out.

Serraph105

There are a lot of kids who sit around and don't do anything in school. There are a lot of kids who skip classes, don't do their homework, and waste time. There are even a lot of kids who show up but don't get anything out of their classes. Adding more school days won't necessarily have a positive impact on everyone, or even most students. Just because you're attending more days doesn't mean you'll be learning more or gaining anything.

The kids who want to be good students will be good students, and the kids who want to be bad students will be bad students.
Adding more time and more school days won't do anything but piss people off.

t3hrubikscube

Yep. Took the words right out of my mouth.

I'd feel bad for the kids. Really I've lived in several countries and the schools in America that I attended were just fine like the others. If performance is an issue there should be a different way to solve it other than having kids stay in school longer.

I honestly wouldn't complain about a two-week cut to summer vacation, it would definitely help our education system. Besides, it's not like I've got anything better to do.

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per
year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore
the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050),
Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that
Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days)
than does the U.S. (180 days).

WHAT!? If he does... I swear...

WHAT!? If he does... I swear...

KHfanboy2

Seriously? How about making them learn, locking the doors around the schools, and having better hall monitoring?

Seriously when I went to school, I could just walk out of school, a lot of doors were open, evey year principal bragged about how they were getting "More Strict" and is was as easy just to cut into the bathroom for like 8 hours as ever. Besides that their is also a spoiled apple in the bunch that the stupid teachers let ruin a whole a class, and they take it out on the ones who actually worked.

That's why I'm against it.

I'm for it because, they kids run wild and rampant during the summer, I'm 20 and I see this all the time. They're hooligans, terrible.

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per
year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore
the U.S. on math and science tests - Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050),
Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that
Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days)
than does the U.S. (180 days).

papa59roach

cite this.Hewkii

I think It's already too long. So does my parents, my friends, and my friend's parents. I would rather have him pass another stimulus!

In my opinion, he should focus more on the actual teaching QUALITY of the schools. Shortening summer vacations will only drive up spending on schools. *shrugs* I guess he could have done this if the economy was better... but yeah, when schools and libraries are closing, it's just not feasible to do this. JustPlainLucas

Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per
year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore
the U.S. on math and science tests - Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050),
Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that
Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days)
than does the U.S. (180 days).

papa59roach

Not really a bad idea, but if they just want test scores to be higher they could just test the best students like every other country does.

Actually, from an economic standpoint, driving up education spending right now would be a pretty good thing. -Sun_Tzu-

First he cuts the funding for the F-22 Raptor, now he tries to get rid of summer vacation. He needs to go...

First he cuts the funding for the F-22 Raptor, now he tries to get rid of summer vacation. He needs to go...

fail_baby

Whats wrong with the cutting of a worthless machine we will probably never use?

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[QUOTE="fidosim"] I've never seen school make someone smarter.fidosim

Mind explaining how you're reading all of this and able to type a response? With correct grammar and spelling no less?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Actually, from an economic standpoint, driving up education spending right now would be a pretty good thing. JustPlainLucas

There are a lot of kids who sit around and don't do anything in school. There are a lot of kids who skip classes, don't do their homework, and waste time. There are even a lot of kids who show up but don't get anything out of their classes. Adding more school days won't necessarily have a positive impact on everyone, or even most students. Just because you're attending more days doesn't mean you'll be learning more or gaining anything.

The kids who want to be good students will be good students, and the kids who want to be bad students will be bad students.
Adding more time and more school days won't do anything but piss people off.

t3hrubikscube

notice how he didn't say this when he was trying to get elected:P

The amount of time you guys have for summer vacation is silly anyway. There should be more shorter holidays than fewer longer ones, that way people aren't spending long amounts of time away from schooling and *forgetting* thier material. This is considering that they average kid wouldn't bother doing school work during the summer vacation

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

First he cuts the funding for the F-22 Raptor, now he tries to get rid of summer vacation. He needs to go...

taj7575

Whats wrong with the cutting of a worthless machine we will probably never use?

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[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

First he cuts the funding for the F-22 Raptor, now he tries to get rid of summer vacation. He needs to go...

LZ71

Whats wrong with the cutting of a worthless machine we will probably never use?

What?!?!?! Not the epic M423 Dragon Tank!! :cry:

Thank God. Summer vacation is nothing but misery. And God knows the little brats need more time in school.

GO OBAMA!

Theokhoth

Dude i live for summer vacation.

Every year i hate school more and more as the year goes on and toward the end of the school year im just about to snap, then with 3 months off i calm down and come into the new year with a new attitude. If thats shortened i might not be completely recharged and snap.

Please don't do this Obama.

You're at the same reading and writing level you were at at four and five?Locke562

All hell will break loose if Obama pulls this off.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

There are a lot of kids who sit around and don't do anything in school. There are a lot of kids who skip classes, don't do their homework, and waste time. There are even a lot of kids who show up but don't get anything out of their classes. Adding more school days won't necessarily have a positive impact on everyone, or even most students. Just because you're attending more days doesn't mean you'll be learning more or gaining anything.

The kids who want to be good students will be good students, and the kids who want to be bad students will be bad students.
Adding more time and more school days won't do anything but piss people off.

PsycoMind

Kids would blank out if they were in school that long and then learn less.

I know from experience. ;)

:lol:

Spending more time in school is only going to make the drop out rate go up...Quality is the issue here, not quantity. The reality of the situation is kids are getting a differing education based around where they live. No child left behind actually took this problem and attempted to solve it in the worse possible way : dumb down the system so that schools are punished for success.

What a great idea:roll:

The system needs to be completely revamped,however, simply adding three more hours on to a school day or taking away Summer Break will have the same negative results as No Child Left Behind.

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

First he cuts the funding for the F-22 Raptor, now he tries to get rid of summer vacation. He needs to go...

Whats wrong with the cutting of a worthless machine we will probably never use?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Thank God. Summer vacation is nothing but misery. And God knows the little brats need more time in school.

GO OBAMA!

CptJSparrow

Makes sense. The whole reason summer vacation was made as long as it is now is so kids could work in the fields during the summer. We don't do that anymore. And even if you want to go on a vacation to the Bahamas or something, you don't need 2 1/2 months to do that...

Making school time longer isn't going to fix the USA's problems with the QUALITY of it's education though, standards and funding are what do that. Schools in America need to be run more like places where people are supposed to learn and less like government baby-sitting services.

They would do far more to push our education if they got rid of the stupid things like no child left behind and allowed students to accel instead of bringing everyone to a mean education level. School is turning into a big daycare center just hammering the answers to standardized tests into kids instead of teaching them to think.

I'm not completely against this, but many schools barely have enough money now. How are they going to get teachers to work for many more hours a week and still be able to keep the school going?