[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] In real life I agree with you, but in the very specific hypthothetical that was laid out, nobody can possibly lack for fish. Yeah, it's a pretty extreme hypothetical, and in my view ignores issues such as: if two people want the same apartment because it has the best view... you've taken away the ability to bid for that. I see no solution to that simple problem in any far future without artificial control. It is the artificial control which requires absolute centralized authority and leads to what you're talking about.
Still, lets say we've well and truly damaged the planet through nuclear war, or some other means and living conditions are uniform: you have as much space as you want, but you can't have a view because (insert scifi stuff here). If you have a closed society in which any person can go to a Star Trek -esque replicator for any kind of food or object... trade is meaningless. Why bother to fish if you can dial a perfect cut of salmon? In this hypothetical laid out, where truly free trade (in both senses) is the only thing left, then you have a functional communist society.
Personally, I find that I keep thinking of conflicts that would arise, requring strong central authority, but the fish notion is not the issue.Frame_Dragger
That scenario still wouldn't work, because somepeople would want to control things. And these people would turn into tyrants and we are right back at communism again. Even if we could make food like in Star Trek, someone would want to take control of that and limit it's uses for power and say that unless if you (insert whatever) than you can't get food from it. There would still be conflict and it wouldn't be a free society. Besides I'm sure people would still find a way to make a profit in one way or the other, it would just be the dictator running the show.
If one person in a world in which everyone has equal ability to produce wants control for its own sake, they would be contending with a populace that would almost certainly kill them ASAP. I don't think that people with mental defects existing is a valid argument against any form of government. No rational person would want control over everything, if they can't possibly gain any more than they already have by doing so. the number of people who want to control other for JUST the sake of control is small enough that you just hit the "gun" button on your replicator and the community solves its problem.All it would take is for some people to start drawing lines, it doesn't have to be over resources. They would find something else to fight or desire over like men/women they want to marry, someone questioning things, someone wanting to live a different kind of life ect...
What you are describing is a fantasy where everyone get's along and no one would fight and there would be no need to compete on a grand scale because there would be no reason to improve since life would be be perfect and thus no one would feel the need to. They would be perfectly contempt with everything they have and there would be nothing left to improve since everything is perfect.
It's a fantasy, it's impossible and that would never happen. ever. In a real life scenerio people would become dictators and hurt oppress others, or people would compete in other ways thourgh trading services or whatnot. In real life, in your fantasy land it can exist. But not in real life.
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