Obama wants control of the internet.

What does this have to do with Obama?

Pixel-Pirate

Last time I checked the internet is not a freedom.

it is always made to be something positive.protect us from terror,criminals,illegals.

"we must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect out homeland" Hitler 1922

Last time I checked the internet is not a freedom.

Jfisch93

Could be argued.

Obama? Isn't this something that Joe Lieberman is trying to push through?

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"] theirs just so many of you that are misinformed. Ninja-Hippo

It would never work. There are so many hackers and networks that the government couldn't regulate the internet, and that's just in the U.S.. Do you think private industries abroad would allow such a thing to happen?

hmmm. cool. let's hope it passes because the majority of you people actually see no problem with it. it's really cool that the US was founded as a constitutional republic. they warned against democracy. ben franklin said democracy was like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. and here we are. democracy.lloveLamp

Um, I'm pretty sure we're still a constitutional republic, considering that we have a constitution and are a republic.

I want apocalypse, now

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]hmmm. cool. let's hope it passes because the majority of you people actually see no problem with it. it's really cool that the US was founded as a constitutional republic. they warned against democracy. ben franklin said democracy was like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. and here we are. democracy.GabuEx

Um, I'm pretty sure we're still a constitutional republic, considering that we have a constitution and are a republic.

There are strong elements of representative democracy present within the framework of the constitution though. (most of which was put there by the founding fathers...)

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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]hmmm. cool. let's hope it passes because the majority of you people actually see no problem with it. it's really cool that the US was founded as a constitutional republic. they warned against democracy. ben franklin said democracy was like two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. and here we are. democracy.coolbeans90

Um, I'm pretty sure we're still a constitutional republic, considering that we have a constitution and are a republic.

There are strong elements of representative democracy present within the framework of the constitution though. (most of which was put there by the founding fathers...)

Well, yes, we are a constitutional republic whose representatives in government are ultimately elected by the people, although I will grant that there is much more direct election today than there was when the Constitution in its original form was enacted.

There are blah blah blah with the blah blah blah who would like to blah blah blah about the blah blah blah. Blah blah blah is definitely very blah blah blah and must blah blah blah in accordance with blah blah blah blah blah.

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Um, I'm pretty sure we're still a constitutional republic, considering that we have a constitution and are a republic.

GabuEx

There are strong elements of representative democracy present within the framework of the constitution though. (most of which was put there by the founding fathers...)

Well, yes, we are a constitutional republic whose representatives in government are ultimately elected by the people, although I will grant that there is much more direct election today than there was when the Constitution in its original form was enacted.

Exactly.

The bill was introduced in April of last year with bipartisan support and was debated before Obama even took office. The 'Obama is the devil' reports are becoming tiresome. Ninja-Hippo

What don't they want to control? They want to control everything. The U.S government seems to believe everythingis within their jurisdiction.They just want to be able to cut the feed to stop the flow of information to keep the general public unaware.

The amount of unfounded paranoia in this thread is astounding.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]The bill was introduced in April of last year with bipartisan support and was debated before Obama even took office. The 'Obama is the devil' reports are becoming tiresome. hamstergeddon

This thread should be locked. There's no point or real discussion to be had.

This is the stupidiest most ridiculous evilest idea ive ever heard since hitlers idea of invading the world, kill all jews, and turn everyone to white blue eyed blonds and band alot of stuff.

The amount of unfounded paranoia in this thread is astounding.

IzzieWaru

Gullibility and naivety is just as astounding.

awesome even more awesome fox news is the only place that reports this even more awesome people still bash fox....Gosh i hate the liberal media bias. seriously anybody who isnt disturbed by this needs to look at china and the recent Google fall out over there over china censoring google searcheskayoticdreamz

Maybe you missed the fact that this bill was introduced by a democratic and republican senator BEFORE Obama ever took office. Obama haters are really grasping for straws now.... Sheesh...

Sometimes people simply need more bacon

Giving such a power to a president? I really don't like this idea.

But is it Obama's idea?

Wasn't this bill introduced last year or something by Liebermann? I have a vague memory of it.

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I realise but this should still be adressed. Its on the news right now in Chicago. Theokhoth

Forget the internet; I believe that I was promised death panels :xxaos

I just want people to stop referring to "the Internet" as though it were one central server with an off switch. :(

Giving such a power to a president? I really don't like this idea.

But is it Obama's idea?

Wasn't this bill introduced last year or something by Liebermann? I have a vague memory of it.

SgtKevali

Yep. I too certainly despise the bill, but I don't see how Obama was responsible for it.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Forget the internet; I believe that I was promised death panels :xGabuEx

I just want people to stop referring to "the Internet" as though it were one central server with an off switch. :(

Remember Ted Stevens. "It's a series of tubes"

[QUOTE="xaos"]Forget the internet; I believe that I was promised death panels :xGabuEx

I just want people to stop referring to "the Internet" as though it were one central server with an off switch. :(

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Forget the internet; I believe that I was promised death panels :xxaos

I just want people to stop referring to "the Internet" as though it were one central server with an off switch. :(

I can just imagine Lieberman after he finds out that the internet also exists elsewhere in the world.

"hey vladimir putin we're shutting off the internet"

"o rly"

"ya plz shut ur stuff down"

"no"

":("

**** Obama, let's elect Elton John.

Who would consider this smart? When would shutting down communication be a good idea?

I thought that Lieberman was behind this absurd and unworkable billxaos

I got a feeling that liberman could be a sith lord. Maybe palpatine is the reincarnation of lieberman! Or maybe it the other way around! :shock:

[QUOTE="xaos"]I thought that Lieberman was behind this absurd and unworkable billTheShadowLord07

I got a feeling that liberman could be a sith lord. Maybe palpatine is the reincarnation of lieberman! Or maybe it the other way around! :shock:

Who do you think they based Palpatine on? :P

2. A freedom can be suspended in an emergency. Again: Marshal law.Theokhoth

What part of the Constitution is that?

It's the cyber equivalent of marshal law. If there's an emergency, the Internet can be shut down. Just as if there's an emergency, the army can come in and tell you when you can leave your house.Theokhoth

Posse comitatus mean anything to you?

Good God this thread is horribly paranoid. Obama has nothing to do with promoting or passing this bill. It was proposed before he left office and is now being promoted by Lieberman.Danm_999

So much Obama bashing on these boards that I'm starting to sympathize with him. Parallel this to two years ago when I couldn't stand everyone endlessly praising him.

I'm amazed at how it's even possible for there to be such a thing as a kill switch for the internet. That sounds so ... odd.

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A Senate bill would offer President Obama emergency control of the Internet and may give him a "kill switch" to shut down online traffic by seizing private networks -- a move cybersecurity experts worry will choke off industry and civil liberties.

Details of a revamped version of the Cybersecurity Act of 2009 emerged late Thursday, months after an initial version authored by Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.V., was blasted in Silicon Valley as dangerousgovernment intrusion.

"In the original bill they empowered the president to essentially turn off the Internet in the case of a 'cyber-emergency,' which they didn't define," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which represents the telecommunications industry.

"We think it's a very bad idea ... to put in legislation," he told FOXNews.com.

Clinton said the new version of the bill that surfaced this week is improved from its first draft, but troubling language that was removed was replaced by vague language that could still offer the same powers to the president in case of an emergency.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/senate-president-emergency-control-internet/

Thats right, your elected president wants to take the internet, a freedom if you will, away from you. This could happen when ever he considers something a cyber attack. What is with the Government control of the Obama administration? I enjoy all my freedoms and i feel like everyday Obama and his admin take one away. 2012 cant come sooner...

Laserwolf65

Hmm... something in this post makes me distrust it... what could it be?

I'm amazed at how it's even possible for there to be such a thing as a kill switch for the internet. That sounds so ... odd.

Stevo_the_gamer

It's not.

No one country can shut the internet down as no one country as domain over it. You guys in the states might lose out but the rest of the world will go on surfing (with less porn sites available though)

It doesn't bother me. But I do worry about the other people.. the ones who never learned how to live without it and have no valuable survival skills.EMOEVOLUTION

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I'm amazed at how it's even possible for there to be such a thing as a kill switch for the internet. That sounds so ... odd.

GabuEx

It's not.