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#201 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="juicetino"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="gs_gear"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

[QUOTE="gs_gear"]I'm watching 300 right now. :DDavidhye

huh

:|What?

how could u be watching it

bootleg DVD

:o Pirate!

of course 200th post IS MINE

lets bring it to 300 post and end it

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#202 hornymushroom
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

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#203 ciredude
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I might go see it this weekend with some friends.

How bloody is it?

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#204 SaintLeonidas
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

hornymushroom

The spartans werent there for a war, they were there to kill. You think they had time to take in wounded, or care for persians. Plus its a graphic novel, who cares how the persians were potriated because it wasnt supposed to be an accurate potrail.  Plus the people may have been civilized but that has nothing to say about the army. Plus its a fiction movie. People say well its still based on true battle, yeah it is based on the true battle, but the way the author wants to create it is his choice because its fiction.

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#205 Sajo7
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I might go see it this weekend with some friends.

How bloody is it?

ciredude
Not as bloody as I expected actually. No organs in any case. Their is some limb severing in it though.
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

hornymushroom
I've seen the film twice now...and I don't recall assertions that Persians were savages. Enlighten me, maybe I missed it.
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#207 Sajo7
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

hornymushroom
You'd have a better argument if you could spell.
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#208 maximusmmii
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Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

sonicare

are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.
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#209 SaintLeonidas
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

hornymushroom

you and your petition buddies are idiots. Its fiction, FICTION. A movie, a GRAPHIC NOVEL. Yeah all think your high and mighty standing for the truth, but theres no truth to fiction, which the movie was and set out to be.  Think of all the comic books that portrait nazis as evil crazy dudes, there fiction, as 300 was.

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#210 mish55
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that movie went too fast

it goes, young kid training to be a warrior---->persian guy threatens leonidas------>skewering of many persian warriors-----> the end

seriously, this movie looked good, but they chose the effects and action over characterization

this movie is actually going to be forgotten

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#211 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.

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#212 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii

are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

Yes, and many, many others.
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#213 hornymushroom
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well in the movie well parts of it you see the persions screaming in the air like retards oh yes and spelling dosnt matter online i come here to discuss stuff not go to english class. Oh yes and you could atleast let the persions die in peace instead of shoving spears in there heads as they are totaly defensless on the ground. Im just saying that this movie didnt need to have stupid savagy behaivir like this making iranians look retarded.
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#214 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

the stories are far different, plus 300 happenedover 2000 years ago.

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#215 hornymushroom
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nazis were evil crazy dudes. do you not know what took place in the  world wars???
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#216 SaintLeonidas
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well in the movie well parts of it you see the persions screaming in the air like retards oh yes and spelling dosnt matter online i come here to discuss stuff not go to english class. Oh yes and you could atleast let the persions die in peace instead of shoving spears in there heads as they are totaly defensless on the ground. Im just saying that this movie didnt need to have stupid savagy behaivir like this making iranians look retarded.hornymushroom

yes die in piece, let them sit and rot and be eaten to death by gulls, or just stab them in the chest , so they arent suffering. Plus the only time the persians looked like evil savages was the immortals, and that was just frank millers art style to show how the immortals were feared. Other than that the persians had nothing else that made them look like savages. Ive read books based on the battle, the persian king did execute several of his generals.

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#217 SaintLeonidas
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nazis were evil crazy dudes. do you not know what took place in the  world wars???hornymushroom

to say that every nazi was evil, and they werent just doing there orders is very wrong.

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#218 Sajo7
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nazis were evil crazy dudes. do you not know what took place in the  world wars???hornymushroom
Whats your point? And for the love of God, if you refuse to spell correctly, please try to keep your thoughts from being mushed together in one fat sentence.
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#219 Davidhye
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actually it would be pretty awesome if the thread would be closed at 300 post...
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

Jesus H Christ, why do people insist on making it so god damn hard to just sit down and enjoy a god damn movie? I'm sorry if 300 isn't high brow Matrix entertainment. Or doesn't try to be as historically accurate as Band of Brothers. Is the concept of a nice old fashioned action movie really that hard?

what are YOU smoking? By your logic, every invasion in history is the same story, every defensive action in history is the same story, etc.

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[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

SaintLeonidas


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propoganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.
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#222 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propoganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

You realize that 300 is based on an actual battle between the Persian Empire and 300 Spartans? (Obviously without the monsters)
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#223 RMage
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Meh, it was ok. I only went to see it for the Spiderman trailer.V4Violence

Wait wait wait wait wait........ you paid money to see a trailer you could get off the internet for free? Wow....

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propoganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

That's a big reach.  You can infer almost anything if you try hard, but I hardly doubt that was the intended message.  The movie was based on the legend and possibly historicaly accurate of an advance troop of 300 spartans (and in history 700 greeks, the thespians) that engaged the persian host at thermopylae.  It has little to do with america.  The movie was presented in more of a comic book flavor and had less to do with real world events.

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#225 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propoganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

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#226 maximusmmii
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[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

SaintLeonidas


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propaganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

whether the film is fictional or based on actual events is irrelevant. the moral of the story is that: (1) war is good. (2) sometimes it is right for a commander in chief to start a war without the approval of the counsel/congress/senate/parliament. (3) people of the same nationality have a natural affinity and need to stick together.

i did not hate the movie, nor did i love it as much as some of you, i am simply pointing out observations that i have made.


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#227 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="hornymushroom"]

the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

SaintLeonidas

The spartans werent there for a war, they were there to kill. You think they had time to take in wounded, or care for persians. Plus its a graphic novel, who cares how the persians were potriated because it wasnt supposed to be an accurate potrail.  Plus the people may have been civilized but that has nothing to say about the army. Plus its a fiction movie. People say well its still based on true battle, yeah it is based on the true battle, but the way the author wants to create it is his choice because its fiction.

  Yes, exactly. It's Fictional entertainment. Unfortunately the feeble-minded do not understand.

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300 was a cool movie

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#229 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propaganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

whether the film is fictional or based on actual events is irrelevant. the moral of the story is that: (1) war is good. (2) sometimes it is right for a commander in chief to start a war without the approval of the counsel/congress/senate/parliament. (3) people of the same nationality have a natural affinity and need to stick together.

i did not hate the movie, nor did i love it as much as some of you, i am simply pointing out observations that i have made.


you make it seem like frank miller and zach snyder made it for those reason which is untrue. The fact that it can be related to events today doesnt mean that it was made for that reason. Miller made the graphic novel acoupld years ago before this war started. The movie is almost a mirror image of the graphic novel,literally i could paste a pic from the novel over the movie and theyd be exact. So it might seem like the movie is that way, but is wasnt created to do that.

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#230 maximusmmii
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[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

SaintLeonidas


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propaganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

whether the film is fictional or based on actual events is irrelevant. the moral of the story is that: (1) war is good. (2) sometimes it is right for a commander in chief to start a war without the approval of the counsel/congress/senate/parliament. (3) people of the same nationality have a natural affinity and need to stick together.

i did not hate the movie, nor did i love it as much as some of you, i am simply pointing out observations that i have made.

you make it seem like frank miller and zach snyder made it for those reason which is untrue. The fact that it can be related to events today doesnt mean that it was made for that reason. Miller made the graphic novel acoupld years ago before this war started. The movie is almost a mirror image of the graphic novel,literally i could paste a pic from the novel over the movie and theyd be exact. So it might seem like the movie is that way, but is wasnt created to do that.


the author's intentionality doesn't mean everything.
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propaganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

whether the film is fictional or based on actual events is irrelevant. the moral of the story is that: (1) war is good. (2) sometimes it is right for a commander in chief to start a war without the approval of the counsel/congress/senate/parliament. (3) people of the same nationality have a natural affinity and need to stick together.

i did not hate the movie, nor did i love it as much as some of you, i am simply pointing out observations that i have made.

you make it seem like frank miller and zach snyder made it for those reason which is untrue. The fact that it can be related to events today doesnt mean that it was made for that reason. Miller made the graphic novel acoupld years ago before this war started. The movie is almost a mirror image of the graphic novel,literally i could paste a pic from the novel over the movie and theyd be exact. So it might seem like the movie is that way, but is wasnt created to do that.


the author's intentionality doesn't mean everything.

Wrong, It means everything. witout him the movie wouldnt have been made.

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Is there a name to go along with all three hundred of them? i need a list.
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the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

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    From the history I've read, the Xerxes came into Greece with the main intention of burning Athens to the ground because Athens helped fuel a the revolt in Ionia when Darius was King. They weren't exactly coming into Greece as dictators. The great Persian King we all love is Cyrus. When he took over countries he was seen as a liberator and allowed citizens to govern themselves. Anyway, Xerxes entire political career is defined in the Greco-Persian Wars and you're not going to find many nice things about him. Anyway, Cyrus the Great was probably one of the greatest kings of the ancient world and because of him I respect the Persian Empire. 
 
    About 300, the only people who are making a fuss about it are overly sensative people. I never thought once about the Persians or Iranians being brutal killing machines until you brought it up.

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yep... getting mad cuz of a movie BASED on a COMIC - cmon, man, that's too much sensitivity... i understand if that will be 2007 - then yes, hell yea, but BC times......
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#236 gs_gear
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I've just watched it. :D Couldn't watch the whole movie last night cause I was tired.:P

The movie was great but it could have been even better if  they've shoved that  last battle were there were 10000 Spartans.:D

The  only problem was that they've shown  all the battles (although not quite complete) except for the last one were they get killed,  in the trailers.:(
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ditto
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[QUOTE="hornymushroom"]

the reason i said this movie is racist is that they say the persions are savage and show them do stupid and horrible things which is not true. Irronicley [spelling] persions were the most civilised people of that time and the spartans think they arent savage. at the battle scene they kill the persions who are on there on there knees dying. Know some people out there are going to think iranians are like bloodthirsty beasts thanks to the extreme inaccuracy of this movies history. yes it was based on a novel but it was was based on something that happened in real life so there is no reason to. lie to the people that persions are savage.

http://www.petitiononline.com/wpci96c/petition.html

Headbanger88

From the history I've read, the Xerxes came into Greece with the main intention of burning Athens to the ground because Athens helped fuel a the revolt in Ionia when Darius was King. They weren't exactly coming into Greece as dictators. The great Persian King we all love is Cyrus. When he took over countries he was seen as a liberator and allowed citizens to govern themselves. Anyway, Xerxes entire political career is defined in the Greco-Persian Wars and you're not going to find many nice things about him. Anyway, Cyrus the Great was probably one of the greatest kings of the ancient world and because of him I respect the Persian Empire.

About 300, the only people who are making a fuss about it are overly sensative people. I never thought once about the Persians or Iranians being brutal killing machines until you brought it up.

I don't think the movie showed persians as savages at all. They were covered in gold, wearing makeup, not very savage-like. And Xerxes was always negotiating while the spartans were irrational and stubborn. I really don't see the negative portrayal of persians in this movie, other than the fact that they were the "bad guys"
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1.  Most war movies always tend to portray war as good or foucs on the "glory of war" - thats part of their allure.

2.  Your second point about the commader in chief not needing the approval of the senate is weak if best.  I highly doubt that was the intended point.  The director did that most likely to explain WHY there were only 300 spartans.

3.  Fight with people just like you.  How would that apply to america since we have one of the most diverse populations?  We wouldn't be able to fight with our own. 

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so man goat whats up and like all the unessisary nakedness
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

Apparently this movie has Iran up in arms. I think they are missing the point - it was just an entertaining bloodfest, not a historical commentary.

maximusmmii


are you smoking crack? it had the same story as the alamo.

what are you talking about, miss or mister accusation.


300 has the same nationalistic and pro-war message as the alamo (1960, directed by john wayne) and the legend of the alamo, in general. in the alamo, just under 300 american soldiers and militia protect a fort against the advancing mexican army, because they want to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of texas. the alamo is regarded, by most, as american nationalist propaganda. and since basically the same thing happens in 300, where sparta is a metaphor for america, it also has a nationalistic message for americans.

your right it would be a nationalistic message for americans...if it wasnt based on something that actually happened. When frank miller did the movie he did it to make his own iterpretation of the battle of thermopalyea, becasue when he was younger he saw the movie The 300 spartans. He didnt make it to have a nationalistic message, he wanted to turn something he loved into a graphic novel, he never had any thought about pro war or anythng like that. Dont bring any anti war stuff into a talk about a fictional movie.

whether the film is fictional or based on actual events is irrelevant. the moral of the story is that: (1) war is good. (2) sometimes it is right for a commander in chief to start a war without the approval of the counsel/congress/senate/parliament. (3) people of the same nationality have a natural affinity and need to stick together.

i did not hate the movie, nor did i love it as much as some of you, i am simply pointing out observations that i have made.

you make it seem like frank miller and zach snyder made it for those reason which is untrue. The fact that it can be related to events today doesnt mean that it was made for that reason. Miller made the graphic novel acoupld years ago before this war started. The movie is almost a mirror image of the graphic novel,literally i could paste a pic from the novel over the movie and theyd be exact. So it might seem like the movie is that way, but is wasnt created to do that.


the author's intentionality doesn't mean everything.

yes it does.When you come and say they made it to be a message you mean he made it for that reason, and it was one of there intentions on release. Well the author, director didnt have that in their mind. The fact that it can be related just happened, plus its a war movie, they all have that meggase whether it comes out during war times or not.

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so man goat whats up and like all the unessisary nakednessinthiscasket

nudity wasnt a taboo at that time, there would probably be more if it was extremely accurate.

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ok but whats up with the suductive man-goat in xerxes camp? ?
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ok but whats up with the suductive man-goat in xerxes camp? ?inthiscasket

i think it was just a mask.

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are there any .....special scenes cuz i'd like to no this mite affect if i watch it.
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#246 gs_gear
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are there any .....special scenes cuz i'd like to no this mite affect if i watch it.halo3-player
What do you mean?
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#247 halo3-player
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like a man and a woman da da dahhh u no:?
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#248 volgin_101
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I just saw it today and thought it was great.
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#249 gs_gear
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like a man and a woman da da dahhh u no:?halo3-player
Like one scene, but it's not very explicit, so don't worry, you should be more worried about the violent scenes.:P
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#250 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="halo3-player"]like a man and a woman da da dahhh u no:?gs_gear
Like one scene, but it's not very explicit, so don't worry, you should be more worried about the violent scenes.:P

theyll be some breasts male and female.