Ohio 'kidnapper' could be executed

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT: Sadism, sadism everywhereMrPraline

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Some of the posts in here, if serious representations of what people do believe, make those individuals no better than criminals. The justice system is not about revenge.pspdseagle

Right, you would say the same thing if one of these girls were your daughter.

:| Yes because we should have the victims decide the fate of the convicted..

Does this man deserve to be executed or locked up OT?

indzman

What's the cheaper of the two?

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Does this man deserve to be executed or locked up OT?

jun_aka_pekto

What's the cheaper of the two?

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="indzman"]

Does this man deserve to be executed or locked up OT?

LJS9502_basic

What's the cheaper of the two?

People seem not to realize that.. At this time there is no legitimate reason to support the death penalty.. It isn't a deterrent (states with the death penalty don't have less serious crimes), it is more expensive, and it still has the same effect as life with out parole.. They go away and we never see or hear from them again. I find it comedy goal when I see the very same people who cry out about wasteful government spending, while supporting the death penalty..

[QUOTE="-Tish-"]I'm perfectly fine with my tax money going towards making him as uncomfortable as possible. the_bi99man

Funny. Most of the tax dollars that go into the prison system are specifically going to things to make inmates  more  comfortable. If they wanted to make them as  uncomfortable  as possible, they'd slash all the prison budgets by 90%, release the prisoners who never hurt anyone (people on drug charges), and throw all the violent ones (the murderers and rapists) into a single big pit, and feed them once a day, by dumping a drum of dog food on their heads.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT: Sadism, sadism everywheremmwmwmmwmwmm

ITT: Sadism, sadism everywhereMrPraline

He locked up those 3 girls for 10 years.  He should be locked up.  No death.

That is mercy for what he has done, he should be locked up for many many years.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

What's the cheaper of the two?

sSubZerOo

People seem not to realize that.. At this time there is no legitimate reason to support the death penalty.. It isn't a deterrent (states with the death penalty don't have less serious crimes), it is more expensive, and it still has the same effect as life with out parole.. They go away and we never see or hear from them again. I find it comedy goal when I see the very same people who cry out about wasteful government spending, while supporting the death penalty..

I don't care what it costs or how long the appeals process takes. People like Ariel Castro need to die. Allowing someone like this to live isn't justice. Besides, the lengthy appeals process will give Castro some time to learn what the boys in the big house think of rapist pedophiles who torture little girls. 

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Some of the posts in here, if serious representations of what people do believe, make those individuals no better than criminals. The justice system is not about revenge.Toph_Girl250

Right, you would say the same thing if one of these girls were your daughter.

rofl :lol:

I don't care what it costs or how long the appeals process takes. People like Ariel Castro need to die. Allowing someone like this to live isn't justice. 

bigfoot2045

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

Right, you would say the same thing if one of these girls were your daughter.

indzman

rofl :lol:

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

I don't care what it costs or how long the appeals process takes. People like Ariel Castro need to die. Allowing someone like this to live isn't justice. 

Ace6301

Whatever term you want to use for it, I'm fine with it. The guy is an inhuman monster who needs to die. The only difference between justice and revenge is that justice is carried out by the state, while revenge is carried out by the individual who was wronged. The death penalty allows for things to be set right without those who were victimized having to feel guilty about it. That's the very definition of justice. 

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]This is why nobody likes LJS.LJS9502_basic

rofl :lol:

Your butt is hurt :lol:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="indzman"]

rofl :lol:

indzman

Your butt is hurt :lol:

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Do I have to make you cry again?LJS9502_basic

Your butt is hurt :lol:

Hey smartass no need to get so much serious.  

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="indzman"]

Your butt is hurt :lol:

indzman

Hey smartass no need to get so much serious.  

Stupid. Death is too easy. Solitary confinement the rest of his life is better punishment.

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

I don't care what it costs or how long the appeals process takes. People like Ariel Castro need to die. Allowing someone like this to live isn't justice.

Ace6301

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No it isn't. I just don't like lying hypocritical ass hats such as yourself. LJS9502_basic

Hey smartass no need to get so much serious.  

LJ calling out others hypocrites, dumbass, asshat :lol:

LJ calling out others hypocrites, dumbass, asshat :lol: indzman

[QUOTE="indzman"]LJ calling out others hypocrites, dumbass, asshat :lol: LJS9502_basic

I'm a nobody on OT. And by now you know what people think of you as you got butt hurt by another users comment :lol: 

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Execute that fvckerthe_bi99man

True. A quick, painless death is far too easy for sub-human scum like him.

that's why we need to bring back hanging. There's always the chance that the neck doesn't instantly break, and the piece of shit has to dangle there for several minutes, choking to death, while the crowd of observers jeers, curses, and spits on it.

Jesus Christ. The purpose of the justice system is to apply justice not to exact revenge in the most gruesome manner.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="indzman"]LJ calling out others hypocrites, dumbass, asshat :lol: indzman

I'm a nobody on OT. And by now you know what people think of you as you got butt hurt by another users comment :lol: 

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Problem with that is its considered the easy way out. The guy needs to face suffer and long boredom, not a quick painless death. nunovlopes

True. A quick, painless death is far too easy for sub-human scum like him.

that's why we need to bring back hanging. There's always the chance that the neck doesn't instantly break, and the piece of shit has to dangle there for several minutes, choking to death, while the crowd of observers jeers, curses, and spits on it.

Jesus Christ. The purpose of the justice system is to apply justice not to exact revenge in the most gruesome manner.

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"]You people clamouring for some sick and cruel punishment for him are messed up. Wanting someone to be tortured is seriously f*cked up. derr he tortured some women and torturings bad, so we should torture him because hammurabibigfoot2045

He raped and tortured young teenage girls and forced them to have miscarriages. If someone like this doesn't get the death penalty, why even have it as an option? This case is one of the more disgusting and despicable things I've read about. Or are you some kind of rape apologist who's trying to say that what this guy did wasn't a big deal? F*ck rapists and the people who apologize for this sh*t. 

He's not criticizing people saying he should be executed. He's criticizing people saying he should be tortured. Big difference. I tend to disagree with torture, in all circumstances.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Just you. And if you think anyone here thinks you're cool....you're more stupid than you appear.LJS9502_basic

I'm a nobody on OT. And by now you know what people think of you as you got butt hurt by another users comment :lol: 

Okay mr LJS i'm off to work. Have a whole nice day on OT as always :)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="indzman"]

I'm a nobody on OT. And by now you know what people think of you as you got butt hurt by another users comment :lol: 

indzman

Okay mr LJS i'm off to work. Have a whole nice day on OT as always :)

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

I don't care what it costs or how long the appeals process takes. People like Ariel Castro need to die. Allowing someone like this to live isn't justice.

frannkzappa

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I think you may have it backwards: Killing isn't justice, it's just revenge.Ace6301

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I think you may have it backwards: Killing isn't justice, it's just revenge.Ace6301

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

There's another reason why the death penalty is not a good idea. There will be mistakes, and people will be wrongly executed. No ifs, no buts, there will be mistakes.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

nunovlopes

There's another reason why the death penalty is not a good idea. There will be mistakes, and people will be wrongly executed. No ifs, no buts, there will be mistakes.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Revenge is an emotional reaction to a crime, justice is a reaction that removes emotion from the equation and focuses on logic. Punishment works much better when the punishment is largely the same in severity regardless of the crime with the duration increased and certain privileges removed. Giving a ruling group the ability to kill someone because they say they deserve it is asking for trouble as well (and yes I'm aware of your views). As for me personally on reason why death is a poor thing to do to a criminal: It's over quickly.LJS9502_basic

There's another reason why the death penalty is not a good idea. There will be mistakes, and people will be wrongly executed. No ifs, no buts, there will be mistakes.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Revenge is an emotional reaction to a crime, justice is a reaction that removes emotion from the equation and focuses on logic. Punishment works much better when the punishment is largely the same in severity regardless of the crime with the duration increased and certain privileges removed. Giving a ruling group the ability to kill someone because they say they deserve it is asking for trouble as well (and yes I'm aware of your views). As for me personally on reason why death is a poor thing to do to a criminal: It's over quickly.LJS9502_basic

There's another reason why the death penalty is not a good idea. There will be mistakes, and people will be wrongly executed. No ifs, no buts, there will be mistakes.

Mistakes can still happen. Not in this case, of course.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Whats the difference between justice and revenge? in your opinion of course.

LJS9502_basic

Yep. As I said earlier, that's actually a nice thing about the appeals process. Ariel Castro will get to spend quality time (15-20 years most likely) with the booty warriors and tossed salad men in the big house, and he'll eventually have his big day in the lethal injection chamber. Sounds like a win win as far as justice is concerned. 

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

True. A quick, painless death is far too easy for sub-human scum like him.

that's why we need to bring back hanging. There's always the chance that the neck doesn't instantly break, and the piece of shit has to dangle there for several minutes, choking to death, while the crowd of observers jeers, curses, and spits on it.

LJS9502_basic

Jesus Christ. The purpose of the justice system is to apply justice not to exact revenge in the most gruesome manner.

Good, F*ck that guy.

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

NaveedLife

Life without parole would probably be cheaper.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

Spellingiscool

first of all, I always wondered this (and doubted that lethal injection is more than supporting them for life, but maybe), and second of all they deserve a bullet between the eyes.  That aint so expensive.  Or for a better way of doing it (without feeling like one person has to kill them) they could do the old fashion multi man shoot (blanks and reals).  

Either way, When it comes to scum like this I don't care how humanely they die.  Make it cheap and get them gone.

[QUOTE="Spellingiscool"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

NaveedLife

first of all, I always wondered this (and doubted that lethal injection is more than supporting them for life, but maybe), and second of all they deserve a bullet between the eyes.  That aint so expensive.  Or for a better way of doing it (without feeling like one person has to kill them) they could do the old fashion multi man shoot (blanks and reals).  

Either way, When it comes to scum like this I don't care how humanely they die.  Make it cheap and get them gone.

Using guns will still be expensive. The judicial process for the death penalty is a lot longer. We should just lock him up and forget. I'd prefer if we didn't waste millions of dollars just so the people can have vengeance.

[QUOTE="Spellingiscool"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

NaveedLife

first of all, I always wondered this (and doubted that lethal injection is more than supporting them for life, but maybe), and second of all they deserve a bullet between the eyes.  That aint so expensive.  Or for a better way of doing it (without feeling like one person has to kill them) they could do the old fashion multi man shoot (blanks and reals).  

Either way, When it comes to scum like this I don't care how humanely they die.  Make it cheap and get them gone.

The expenses are largely legal. Streamlining the legal process could potentially result in an increase in wrongful executions.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No I didn't. I don't much care about people what people I'll never meet think. If it bothered me...I wouldn't post here dumb ass. LJS9502_basic

Okay mr LJS i'm off to work. Have a whole nice day on OT as always :)

oh my

Taken from another thread (He was talking about the kidnapper/rapist Ariel Castro)

The worst punishment, and the punishment I would give him, is to cut off his arms to his shoulders and his legs basically to his pelvis. Then he would be left a lone in a padded jail cell with a tiny hole to defecate in. Discounting the periods where he would be given (or force fed and checked on to make sure he wasn't trying to commit suicide) he would be completely alone 24/7 for the rest of his life.

 

Death is far too easy for these monsters. They deserve the worst life could ever offer them.

That is sickening and no psychologically healthy person could wish that on anyone - regardless of his crimes. Many people have expressed similar sentiments, and this kind of revolting bloodlust is not exclusive to Ariel Castro. These same calls for grotesque torture and mutilation were made about Sandunsky last year and are made every time there is a big rape story in the mainstream media.

You people call yourselves noble and act as if you represent enlightened and progressive ideals. You do not. You are violent and deranged monsters just like the rapists you condemn. Anyone who would want to inflict torture on anyone for any reason is a violent and deranged monster. There is no rational and productive reason to torture/mutilate someone, and the only possible motive for doing that is to inflict suffering on someone else. Anyone who wants others to needlessly suffer is a violent and deranged monster.

You people are so loudly indignant when the MSM tells you to be. You ask each other how someone could possibly be so horrible that he would kidnap someone, imprison someone, rape someone. Then in the next sentence you describe how you want to savagely mutilate the criminal as if there is nothing wrong with that. Try reading the constitution, which outlaws cruel and unusual punishment, or better yet try studying the philosophy of ethics. This kind of stuff is why democracy is a terrible idea. 90% of humans are violent savages. That is an estimate.

Obviously this guy should be imprisoned for life as he is too dangerous to be allowed to live freely, but the things you people are wanting done to him are just sick.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

People lilke to say that prison is more of a punishment than death, but its not just to serve as revenge and punishment.  As much as I would love to see scum suffer for what they have done and I am not opposed to it, death is all that really matters.  it gets them out of the system, we dont have to support them (with money and space) in prison, and so on.  cut out the problem.  

Spellingiscool

But only because of the superflous bullshit.

No reason the death penalty should cost any more than the price of one 9mm bullet.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Spellingiscool"] Death penalty is more expensive.....JangoWuzHere

first of all, I always wondered this (and doubted that lethal injection is more than supporting them for life, but maybe), and second of all they deserve a bullet between the eyes.  That aint so expensive.  Or for a better way of doing it (without feeling like one person has to kill them) they could do the old fashion multi man shoot (blanks and reals).  

Either way, When it comes to scum like this I don't care how humanely they die.  Make it cheap and get them gone.

Using guns will still be expensive. The judicial process for the death penalty is a lot longer. We should just lock him up and forget. I'd prefer if we didn't waste millions of dollars just so the people can have vengeance.

I honestly don't know how all of this works, but isnt there a process no matter if it is for the death penatly or a jail sentance?  THere should be no process if its obvious they did it.  the only process should be death.  laws and loopholes overrused.  once you do something this awful you have no more rights.  its different if its something that peopel cant prove.  Then of course the death penatly is not something I reccomend.