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#1 Theokhoth
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http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/politics/3668/election_update:_oklahoma_bans_shari'ah_law

Amazing what paranoia does to people.

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#2 Sajo7
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Well they had to do something about the Taliban's major influence among ranchers.
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#3 jimmyjammer69
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Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.
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#4 chathuranga
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What seems to be the problem?
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#5 C_BozkurT_C
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What seems to be the problem?chathuranga
must be something in the water lol
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#6 Sajo7
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What seems to be the problem?chathuranga
Not really a problem, some waste of time and money. It is just very silly.

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Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.jimmyjammer69

Because its already written into LAW to begin with.. With our first amendment. This is blind paranoia.

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#8 Theokhoth
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Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.jimmyjammer69
Because it's already banned in all fifty states.
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#9 wstfld
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Good thing they did that. I heard that Tulsa was #1 on Al Qaeda's list of places to institute Sharia Law.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.sSubZerOo

Because its already written into LAW to begin with.. With our first amendment. This is blind paranoia.

Ah ok. I just know that there's also a freedom of worship or some such, and I can imagine lines becoming blurred as in Britain, where independent Sharia courts have held legal sway for a couple of years now.

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#11 Netherscourge
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How can you ban something that was never law in the first place?

The US constitution, by DEFAULT, blocks acts or systems of discrimination and supercedes all religious laws.

This is the most redundant waste of time ever.

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#12 Theokhoth
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How can you ban something that was never law in the first place?

Netherscourge
By insisting that, if you don't, Terrorists and Muslims will join forces with Socialists to pass it by force, thereby declaring war aginst America and Western civilization. Also, gays.
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#13 wstfld
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

How can you ban something that was never law in the first place?

Theokhoth
By insisting that, if you don't, Terrorists and Muslims will join forces with Socialists to pass it by force, thereby declaring war aginst America and Western civilization. Also, gays.

You mean Hannity was lying to me?
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.sSubZerOo

Because its already written into LAW to begin with.. With our first amendment. This is blind paranoia.

Freedom of religion, not freedom to use your religion as law.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.Wasdie

Because its already written into LAW to begin with.. With our first amendment. This is blind paranoia.

Freedom of religion, not freedom to use your religion as law.

I believe that is covered under the establishment clause.
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I'm going to introduce a ballot proposition next November that will ban the sun from staying up more then 12 hours at a time, with the exception of daylight savings months.

We don't need no steenking sunlight when I'm watching True Blood.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Am I missing something? I can't see much wrong with a pre-emptive strike aginst religious law in a secular state.Wasdie

Because its already written into LAW to begin with.. With our first amendment. This is blind paranoia.

Freedom of religion, not freedom to use your religion as law.

They are one of the same.. You can't have a country with religious laws, because that is a violation of the first amendment that descrimates against other religion.

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I believe that is covered under the establishment clause. wstfld

Which technically makes Sharia Law illegal anyways. It was a pointless bill passed in Oklahoma.

However Sharia Law needs to be looked at carefully. Europe is starting to feel extreme political pressure from the Muslim communities. It's one thing to practice your religion, it's another to use it as a vessel for political gain. And yes, this applies to those extreme right wing christian nuts in the USA.

We've seen what pure Christan governments are like. They are bad... very very bad. We can also see what a state controlled by Sharia Law is like, it is also bad... very very bad.

I thought we would have learned by now we need a firm separation of church and state. This applies to all religions equally. This is all I am saying.

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#19 Netherscourge
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Is Communism literally banned in any states?

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#20 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Is Communism literally banned in any states?

I should hope not, as Communism is a viable political philosophy with its own official party in the U.S. None of the states practise it outright, though (I say outright because our system has many elements of Communism long-since incorporated).
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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

Is Communism literally banned in any states?

Theokhoth

I should hope not, as Communism is a viable political philosophy with its own official party in the U.S. None of the states practise it outright, though (I say outright because our system has many elements of Communism long-since incorporated).

Not to mention that if a state banned Communism, nobody in that state could collect Social Security or Medicare benefits when they retire.

It would be funny though if a Tea Party freak tried to get it banned officially and then find out after the fact that they just lost all their their publicly funded benefits LOL

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#22 Omni-Slash
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Hope they ban Cybetronian Law next....if Megatron finds and opening he'll exploit it....
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#23 Vadislav
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Redundant and pointless.
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#24 wstfld
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Is Communism literally banned in any states?

Netherscourge
I'd love to see these rural idiots ban communism. Would that mean my taxes would stop subsidizing their crops?
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[QUOTE="wstfld"] I believe that is covered under the establishment clause. Wasdie

Which technically makes Sharia Law illegal anyways. It was a pointless bill passed in Oklahoma.

However Sharia Law needs to be looked at carefully. Europe is starting to feel extreme political pressure from the Muslim communities. It's one thing to practice your religion, it's another to use it as a vessel for political gain. And yes, this applies to those extreme right wing christian nuts in the USA.

We've seen what pure Christan governments are like. They are bad... very very bad. We can also see what a state controlled by Sharia Law is like, it is also bad... very very bad.

I thought we would have learned by now we need a firm separation of church and state. This applies to all religions equally. This is all I am saying.

Sharia in foreign countries are related to marriage and other personal issues, nothing outside that area.. and they're only applied on Muslims..so the state does not benefit from this ban+ American Muslims in Oklahoma might face problems because of this law..
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#26 weezyfb
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talk about a waste of money and time.
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#27 UnknownSniper65
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Seems like a pointless thing to do.

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#28 metroidfood
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In addition, they should consider amending their constitution with a provision to prevent not only Sharia law, but any religious dogma in laws. Something that could... separate church and state or something.

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In addition, they should consider amending their constitution with a provision to prevent not only Sharia law, but any religious dogma in laws. Something that could... separate church and state or something.

metroidfood

Not going to happen in a bible belt state..

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In addition, they should consider amending their constitution with a provision to prevent not only Sharia law, but any religious dogma in laws. Something that could... separate church and state or something.

metroidfood
No silly. I think they were going for separation of Mosque and State, due to the waves of Fundamentalist Muslims washing over Oklahoma's plains. Conservatives don't like separation of church and state, only separation of mosque/temple/synagogue/non-christian place of worship and state.
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

In addition, they should consider amending their constitution with a provision to prevent not only Sharia law, but any religious dogma in laws. Something that could... separate church and state or something.

wstfld
No silly. I think they were going for separation of Mosque and State, due to the waves of Fundamentalist Muslims washing over Oklahoma's plains. Conservatives don't like separation of church and state, only separation of mosque/temple/synagogue/non-christian place of worship and state.

Doesn't this law act as some kind of precedent for that though? I mean, as long as freedom of worship stands, I'd think hands are becoming increasingly tied by specific interpretations of the constitution.
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Who remembers Oklahoma exists without someonementioning it? Or without browsing a U.S map first?

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[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

In addition, they should consider amending their constitution with a provision to prevent not only Sharia law, but any religious dogma in laws. Something that could... separate church and state or something.

jimmyjammer69

No silly. I think they were going for separation of Mosque and State, due to the waves of Fundamentalist Muslims washing over Oklahoma's plains. Conservatives don't like separation of church and state, only separation of mosque/temple/synagogue/non-christian place of worship and state.

Doesn't this law act as some kind of precedent for that though? I mean, as long as freedom of worship stands, I'd think hands are becoming increasingly tied by specific interpretations of the constitution.

Not in the least seeing as I am willing to bet that many in that state define the United States as a Christian nation and not of a secular one.

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I'm going to introduce a ballot proposition next November that will ban the sun from staying up more then 12 hours at a time, with the exception of daylight savings months.

We don't need no steenking sunlight when I'm watching True Blood.

Netherscourge
what about in the northern us during the summer?

Who remembers Oklahoma exists without someonementioning it? Or without browsing a U.S map first?

MagnumPI
oklahomoins i suppose.
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Who remembers Oklahoma exists without someonementioning it? Or without browsing a U.S map first?

MagnumPI

It's somewhere in the midwest no?

Woops, nevermind, guess it's in the south. In my defense I never took US georgraphy.

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="wstfld"] No silly. I think they were going for separation of Mosque and State, due to the waves of Fundamentalist Muslims washing over Oklahoma's plains. Conservatives don't like separation of church and state, only separation of mosque/temple/synagogue/non-christian place of worship and state. sSubZerOo

Doesn't this law act as some kind of precedent for that though? I mean, as long as freedom of worship stands, I'd think hands are becoming increasingly tied by specific interpretations of the constitution.

Not in the least seeing as I am willing to bet that many in that state define the United States as a Christian nation and not of a secular one.

Yeah well... they're wrong.
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Hope they ban Cybetronian Law next....if Megatron finds and opening he'll exploit it....Omni-Slash

I lol'd.

On topic - redundant at best.

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At last our long national nightmare is over! :P
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]Hope they ban Cybetronian Law next....if Megatron finds and opening he'll exploit it....entropyecho

I lol'd.

On topic - redundant at best.

don't laugh...people take Megatron way too lightly......next thing you know...he's stoning your hot cousin to death for wearing somehting that doesn't cover her ankles.....and let me tell you...stones that are 50 tons.....they hurt....
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Many Muslim countries can't or don't want to even consider banning Sharia law.

The question is, why?

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#41 comp_atkins
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Many Muslim countries can't or don't want to even consider banning Sharia law.

The question is, why?

p2250
who cares about muslim countries?
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#42 Half-Way
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this is meaningless, a waist of time and money. good jobb America!

You never disappoint to make people laugh ^^

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#43 jimmyjammer69
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Maybe there's some other reason for banning not just sharia law but internationallaw from Oklahoma courts, as that actually seems like the bolder move.

"This measure amends the State Constitution. It changes a section that deals with the courts of this state. It would amend Article 7, Section 1. It makes courts rely on federal and state law when deciding cases. It forbids courts from considering or using international law. It forbids courts from considering or using Sharia Law.

International law is also known as the law of nations. It deals with the conduct of international organizations and independent nations, such as countries, states and tribes. It deals with their relationship with each other. It also deals with some of their relationships with persons.

The law of nations is formed by the general assent of civilized nations. Sources of international law also include international agreements, as well as treaties.
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#44 -Y2J-
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Many Muslim countries can't or don't want to even consider banning Sharia law.

The question is, why?

p2250
becuase they are muslim countires e.g. islamic republics and what not the only one i can think of is turkey and its banned there.
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#45 wstfld
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Many Muslim countries can't or don't want to even consider banning Sharia law.

The question is, why?

p2250
The question is, what do third world hell holes have to do with Oklahoma?
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Redundant, but harmless and mildly humorous.

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Sure, why the hell not? I would've voted for it.
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[QUOTE="p2250"]

Many Muslim countries can't or don't want to even consider banning Sharia law.

The question is, why?

wstfld

The question is, what do third world hell holes have to do with Oklahoma?

There's a joke somewhere there.

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Oh thank God!
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"Why have you got that banana in your ear?" "It's keeping the tigers out of Oklahoma!" "... There aren't any tigers in Oklahoma" "EXACTLY!"