One Example Against Evolution!

 remember that random genetic mistakes, called mutations, cannot make all of the special apparatus described above. This is not the result of evolution, but the fingerprint of the Master Designer. In fact, the apostle Paul said that such highly sensitive infrared sensors studied today are evidence of God's creation. This is indeed "clearly seen" (Romans 1:20).

I find it quite interesting, how you manage to claim the apostle Paul was aware of infrared sensors, what 2000 years ago?  Seriously if your going to post bias at least check your post for logical assumptions first.

(Mark 1:17)

[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

Great.  One extremely arguable counter-example among a sea of superb evidence.

I have one huge problem with this post.  The evidence for evolution is so overwhelming that all but the most bias skeptic would refute its validity -- which is perfectly fine if you do so on a relative epistomological ground.  You may not believe evolution has enough evidence, or we can not trust how we arrived at such evidence; both of these beliefs are fine.

What pisses me off is that people who are so strict in their expectations for evidence, at the same time, believe in superstitious war Gods that magically created man, the world, and universe in a minute fraction of time.  The evidence for this superstitious and ridiculous belief system is so minute that it is almost painful.  I do not see how someone who is an opponent of evolution could denounce evolution, and at the same time, claim that there exists some sort of magical omnipotent and omnibenevolant entity.

They could, but their beliefs would amount to little more than bias superstition crafted by Biblical dogma.

Thanatos1337

Great point.  It's because it's so threatening to their beliefs.  If evolution did not have such a strong backing, you could bet it wouldn't stir up so much controversy. 

Wait....it probably still would. :?

why don't you just believe god created evolution?kroxfire

The ignorance of creationsits just amazes me!  I don't know whats worse radical Islam or the bible belt in America....

For example saying a turtle evolves in to horse and laughing at it shows how they don't appreciate there arebillions if not trillions of animal lives that transpire between each evolutionary step no matter how small.

Sooner we all become secular humanists the better.

why don't you just believe god created evolution?kroxfire

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

I know less than the TC on this subject, so I'm not about to jump in on the flame-wagon that is this discussion.

However, I would like to say something.

Evolution is a theory. It is a scientific theory because it has empirical evidence supporting it, I know. But what a theory is is an idea that is supported by known facts, until it can be proven by these known facts and thus become a known fact itself. Evolution is not a known fact. It is a theory. If it was absolutely true, like so many are saying, then it would not be reffered to as the evolution theory but scientists. Gravity is the same. As is plate tectonics. I'm not sayingthey are completely wrong, because they do have evidence, but I'm not just shouting that they are right, either.

There.

flight78

Bad very bad argument !! Gravity is still a theory because scientists doesnt know everything about gravity ! Man your ignorance smells bad. 

why don't you just believe god created evolution?kroxfire

Because the Bible says he didn't.

why don't you just believe god created evolution?kroxfire

why don't you just believe god created evolution?kroxfire

It doesnt blend all to well ! 

[QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?flight78

It doesnt blend all to well ! 

Actually its called Theistic evolution, aka evolutionary creationism.  Followers claim that god used evolution as a tool to create.  Which is far more beleivable than day-creationism, if at all.  Not forgetting each religion has its crazy spin on creationism.

[QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?lucas_kelly

Because the Bible says he didn't.

A religious person doesn't have to take the bible word for word. Why should anyone? Only one's faith in God is what matters, not some book or gospels written by believers. I can't understand why Christians won't accept that the Bible is a mythical story based on historical events.

As for evolution, debunking evolution is like attempting to challenge thousands of gifted biologists who have already proven biology with suffiecient evidence and observation.

So far, theists have not even been near succesfully debunking evolution. If they were, then this would have been written in every biology book: "The theory of Evolution is still debatable." A large category in Biology is taxonomy(classification of animals), which is dependant on evolution. Creationists would have to explain that enormous part of biology without evolution, which nobody had ever succeesfully done.

holy f--- its 2007 and ppl are still propogating creationist nonsense.... seriously people.. you're hurting the progress of the human species as a whole. please stop

what's wrong with evolution and faith? I believe in evolution, only that God created the creatures, and in time, redesigned them. simple as that.

evolution is a theory, genesis is a myth.

Check this out: apparently a new Creationist museum is due to open in four days in Kentucky.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/252336/creationist_museum_takes_shape_in_nky/

People living in peace and harmony with Velociraptors?  T-Rexes as pets?  Brontasuaruses boarding the Ark?  I thought this was a joke the first time I saw this, but no, sadly it's very far from being a SNL skit.  How how how can anyone believe something like this?

Check this out: apparently a new Creationist museum is due to open in four days in Kentucky.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/252336/creationist_museum_takes_shape_in_nky/

People living in peace and harmony with Velociraptors? T-Rexes as pets? Brontasuaruses boarding the Ark? I thought this was a joke the first time I saw this, but no, sadly it's very far from being a SNL skit. How how how can anyone believe something like this?

 

Rekunta

Didn't you know, T-Rex ate coconuts?

http://www.scientificblogging.com/fish_feet/t_rex_ate_coconuts 

Check this out: apparently a new Creationist museum is due to open in four days in Kentucky.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/252336/creationist_museum_takes_shape_in_nky/

People living in peace and harmony with Velociraptors? T-Rexes as pets? Brontasuaruses boarding the Ark? I thought this was a joke the first time I saw this, but no, sadly it's very far from being a SNL skit. How how how can anyone believe something like this?

 

Rekunta

Those people have opened my eyes. Did you know that the t-rex lived in Eden, and once used its 3 inch teeth to eat leaves? :roll:  

[QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?lucas_kelly

Because the Bible says he didn't.

the bible was also written by man....a roman council to be exact. 

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Check this out: apparently a new Creationist museum is due to open in four days in Kentucky.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/252336/creationist_museum_takes_shape_in_nky/

People living in peace and harmony with Velociraptors? T-Rexes as pets? Brontasuaruses boarding the Ark? I thought this was a joke the first time I saw this, but no, sadly it's very far from being a SNL skit. How how how can anyone believe something like this?

 

dainjah1010

Didn't you know, T-Rex ate coconuts?

http://www.scientificblogging.com/fish_feet/t_rex_ate_coconuts

psssh silly kids...thats what long pointed teeth are for! not ripping apart flesh...i mean c'mon how could you POSSIBLY make that mistake!? 

[QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?Hewkii

No, because then the Bible would just be a rip off of Dragon Warrior IV :P. 

[QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?The_Moo_Man

[QUOTE="The_Moo_Man"][QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?quiglythegreat

no whats illogical is saying there is a magical being that can control whatever he wants and then at the same time say evolution is impossible...you dont know...you have never met god...so just let things go. 

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="The_Moo_Man"][QUOTE="kroxfire"]why don't you just believe god created evolution?ArmoredAshes

no whats illogical is saying there is a magical being that can control whatever he wants and then at the same time say evolution is impossible...you dont know...you have never met god...so just let things go.

quiglythegreat, don't image God as a person who drinks beer and watches footbal. He is like a... hm... he's like love, not material thing. I'm so smartBampaz

[QUOTE="Bampaz"]quiglythegreat, don't image God as a person who drinks beer and watches footbal. He is like a... hm... he's like love, not material thing. I'm so smartquiglythegreat

He's an idea, an imagination. 

[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

Check this out: apparently a new Creationist museum is due to open in four days in Kentucky.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/252336/creationist_museum_takes_shape_in_nky/

People living in peace and harmony with Velociraptors? T-Rexes as pets? Brontasuaruses boarding the Ark? I thought this was a joke the first time I saw this, but no, sadly it's very far from being a SNL skit. How how how can anyone believe something like this?

 

dainjah1010

Didn't you know, T-Rex ate coconuts?

http://www.scientificblogging.com/fish_feet/t_rex_ate_coconuts 

Damn that's cool, I learn something new everyday.  Do you think the kids floss it's teeth before bedtime?  Possibly read it a bedtime story as well?

That would be cool to have a T-rex as a pet though.  Nobody would mess with you. :twisted:

Evolution can't explain the SPECIFIC design. Mutations? Is that the best evolution can do? Sorry, that's religion not science.
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