OT are you religious or a atheist?

Atheist. I don't mind religious people as long as they keep it on their Saturday/Sunday serices and out of the court/law system.

atheist my entire life

atheist my entire life

wis3boi

nuh-uh, you were born into sin! repent!

I am more religious right now that athiest. I seem to go through cycles of belief and disbelief.

Atheist. Because I find it very unlikely that there really is a God and besides, God never helped me when I needed help from him so I find it highly unlikely that He is really there.

For example watch these contradictions:

Why the Christian God is unlikely

Why God is probably imaginary

A loving God would not send people to Hell

Atheist. Because I find it very unlikely that there really is a God and besides, God never helped me when I needed help from him so I find it highly unlikely that He is really there.

Why the Christian God is unlikely

Why God is probably imaginary

A loving God would not send people to Hell

pariah3

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atheist my entire life

whiskeystrike

nuh-uh, you were born into sin! repent!

Forgive me great one!

im a Muslim

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atheist my entire life

wis3boi

I'm not an atheist.

religious

People keep explaining and justifying why they are atheist. It's sad that atheists should feel compelled to explain why they are atheist. The questions people should be asking is why should I believe in Christianity or Judaism, etc... not why DON'T you believe.

People keep explaining and justifying why they are atheist. It's sad that atheists should feel compelled to explain why they are atheist. The questions people should be asking is why should I believe in Christianity or Judaism, etc... not why DON'T you believe.

whiskeystrike

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atheist my entire life

GrayF0X786

i guess semi-religious in a sense.

do the prayers, read the book on occasion, as well as different commentaries. read other religion's holy books on occasion as well.

but i'm not outwardly religious, don't sport a beard, would rather wear a casual t-shirt and jeans. i smoke once in a rare occasion, don't drink though, easily follow the one dietry law - no pig - which is easy enough to abide by. I'm likely to never bring up religion unless it's a special event or somehow the conversation enters the realm of religion, or someone simply outright asks me a question.

tend to really dislike preachy people, of any ideology really, religion (even my own), disbelief, political or social ideologies. I know the entire concept is trying to 'sell' someone on something, but i've heard most of it already. As the saying goes "there is nothing new under the sun". it's like that commercial that annoys you, except it's not 30 seconds, it could go on for fvcking hours.

being that i'm currently stuck in my parents house still sending out job applications, waiting for a reply, i am stuck listening to my mom playing imam's preaching about virtues and whatnot a lot. It's nothing i have not heard before, and it's often stuff i don't abide by because it's often ridiculous, i don't mean simply faith based things like God, Angels, acts of miracles, i'm talking behaviors and showing of devotion of faith.

I mean i know i've said i'm a huge history buff, and i am. but i know i've never said that i've actually quietly laughed at some of the conclusions Imam's come to when they bring history and faith in it. I've heard, on more then one occasion, how the reason the Islamic world has fallen is because we lost our faith or we don't have enough conviction. i still remember smirking and muttering "think the problem is we had too much conviction and let it blind us", and getting a "shame on you" muttered in Arabic from my father in response.

personally speaking i'd consider myself a weak theist still leaning on belief in aGod. I also most often tend to treat other people's beliefs or disbeliefs with apathy (Apatheism is the term). I tend to not care what you do or don't believe, but i do care what you do do with that belief or disbelief.

SaudiFury

Well stated, I'm like this aswell.

im a Muslim

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GrayF0X786

Nobody knows if there is a God, or if there is judgment in the end.Lethargika

This sentence is **** because today we know for 80% certainty there is no God and no afterlife. When we die, that's it. There is nothing anymore. Science has shown us with 80% certainty that there very likely is no God and also no afterlife.

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im a Muslim

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FMAB_GTO

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im a Muslim

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GrayF0X786

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Aww gray,you shouldn't be like this,im sorry but you make it look like being Muslim,in general,is bad =[FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] in off topic, it seems it is lol

GrayF0X786

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] I know,but it wont do it any good if you showed them that yourself eh sweetheart! Stay safe and be good ;]FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]sweetheart......:|

GrayF0X786

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] You don't like people calling you that? ok then >.>FMAB_GTO

Agnostic. Don't really belive in some all knowing all caring muslim/christian god. But thats not to say there isn't some other type of creator. I honestly think humans know too little about the universe to be anything other than agnostic.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]sweetheart......:|

GrayF0X786

Ha. Where do you live dude?

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] its dodgy mate.

GrayF0X786

Agnostic. Don't really belive in some all knowing all caring muslim/christian god. But thats not to say there isn't some other type of creator. I honestly think Humans know to little about the universe to be anything other than agnostic.

FPSfan1985

I tend to look at the whole thing from two angles of possibility: (science and faith aside) 1. You can simply disregard all religion, thereby distancing yourself out the circle of "accountability" when you die. (because if you dont believe in God, there will be nobody to hold you accountable.) Makes for a much more convenient, concience-free way of living. OR ........ 2. You can live as if there just might be some kind of accountability in the end, or some form of judgement for your actions in life. This would mean living within the standards set by whichever religion you decide to believe in. And in the end, you may have been right, or it all may have been for nothing. Nobody knows if there is a God, or if there is judgment in the end. But it seems to me that taking a leap of faith and going about life as if there is a God, and there is judgement and reward, is a heck of a lot safer than assuming there isnt. The very possibility that this life just might be only a miniscule step towards an eternity of peace.... well....think about it. Its one assumption against the other. Lethargika

It fails to take into account the possibility that if there is in fact a God, that it might be benevolent and not punish people for not believing. Its premise relies on the false dichotomy that either there is no God or there is a God that is characteristic of any religion insofar as it punishes people for their deeds on Earth, and that there is currently only one religion that is associated with it and there are no others practiced by human beings. Were it the case that these actually are the only two possibilities, then you could safely go about choosing to be a believer. But even then since it's only a justification on practical grounds, it doesn't give you any more reason to believe than not to on epistemic or metaphysical grounds.

It also doesn't address the issue of which specific God or religion one ought to believe in, because if it's the case that you are punished just the same for believing in the wrong religion as you are for simply not believing at all, then approaching the issue as a mere bet is going to work even more against you. But what if you did come to believe the correct religion but only on the grounds of trying to make a safe bet regarding your supposed afterlife, and were punished for only having selfish reasons such as that to believe, rather than coming to believe by means of faith and inner reflection? What if the true religion hasn't even been revealed yet? What if the true religion never ends up getting revealed? What if it's impossible for us to even understand it? The odds begin to stack against you once you go beyond the dichotomy that the wager's premise requires in order to work, and in the end you're essentially betting against an infinite number of possibilities.

When you try to look at the issue as a matter of which option is "safer," the reality is that you're not making much of an honest effort to actually evaluate any one religion (or simply the lack thereof) with respect to the degree to which you find it to be true.

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] You don't like people calling you that? ok then >.>Postmortem123

Ha. Where do you live dude?

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] its dodgy mate.

GrayF0X786

Ha. Where do you live dude?

Ah nevermind, was just thinking you might live up here:P

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Agnostic. Don't really belive in some all knowing all caring muslim/christian god. But thats not to say there isn't some other type of creator. I honestly think Humans know to little about the universe to be anything other than agnostic.

GrayF0X786

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Ha. Where do you live dude?

Postmortem123

Ah nevermind, was just thinking you might live up here:P

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] its dodgy mate.

GrayF0X786

Ha. Where do you live dude?

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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] London.....why? here we don't call other men sweetheart no matter how nice you are.

GrayF0X786

Ah nevermind, was just thinking you might live up here:P

I live in Oldham, North-East of Manchester. We have a huge Muslim population here so I thought you might be from around here. Guess not.

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Agnostic. Don't really belive in some all knowing all caring muslim/christian god. But thats not to say there isn't some other type of creator. I honestly think Humans know to little about the universe to be anything other than agnostic.

FPSfan1985

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Ha. Where do you live dude?

FMAB_GTO

I would classify myself as religious.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] London.....why? here we don't call other men sweetheart no matter how nice you are.

GrayF0X786

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Ah nevermind, was just thinking you might live up here:P

Postmortem123

I live in Oldham, North-East of Manchester. We have a huge Muslim population here so I thought you might be from around here. Guess not.

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Why not? ;oFMAB_GTO

Atheist. Because I find it very unlikely that there really is a God and besides, God never helped me when I needed help from him so I find it highly unlikely that He is really there.

For example watch these contradictions:

Why the Christian God is unlikely

Why God is probably imaginary

A loving God would not send people to Hell

pariah3

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] forget it...

GrayF0X786

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] It wont hurt if you explained though,but eeehhhh.FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] its a bit homophobic lol:x

GrayF0X786