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[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]The family was probably raising the kids to become racists, so I would say that taking them away is probably the best thing to do.shoeman12although it's wrong to raise kids like that, they shouldn't lose their kids for raising them to think that way. although we think it's wrong, you can't say it's the best thing to do, to take them away because of that, that's freedom of speech. should the government take away the kids of all racists? Honestly, yes. If we can stop breeding hate then maybe we can start making it go away. All of the racists i've known have said that they were raised that way, which is pathetic IMO.
the parents have a right to name them whatever they want it would be funnier if they lived in germanykemar7856actually, it wouldnt be funny because the government there is still pretty lame to its people.
the parents have a right to name them whatever they want it would be funnier if they lived in germanykemar7856This simplistic, black and white vision, which is thru the whole topic, bothers me
Because is not true, maybe not in all states, but in some cases people deny the desire names of their children. Im pretty sure no one today can name their kid "Die America"
This simplistic, black and white vision, which is thru the whole topic, bothers me[QUOTE="kemar7856"]the parents have a right to name them whatever they want it would be funnier if they lived in germanyAdrianstalker
Because is not true, maybe not in all states, but in some cases people deny the desire names of their children. Im pretty sure no one today can name their kid "Die America"
My cousin's name is Osama does that count?[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]This simplistic, black and white vision, which is thru the whole topic, bothers me[QUOTE="kemar7856"]the parents have a right to name them whatever they want it would be funnier if they lived in germanyNoSpeakyEnglish
Because is not true, maybe not in all states, but in some cases people deny the desire names of their children. Im pretty sure no one today can name their kid "Die America"
My cousin's name is Osama does that count?Osama is a commom arabic name, there are thousands and thousands out there in America. Of course it doesnt count :)
[QUOTE="NoSpeakyEnglish"][QUOTE="Adrianstalker"] This simplistic, black and white vision, which is thru the whole topic, bothers meMy cousin's name is Osama does that count?Because is not true, maybe not in all states, but in some cases people deny the desire names of their children. Im pretty sure no one today can name their kid "Die America"
Adrianstalker
Osama is a commom arabic name, there are thousands and thousands out there in America. Of course it doesnt count :)
But like he has a beard and stuff.A little clarification on the resent story.
Police, DYFS officials and a court spokeswoman declined to reveal the exact reasons the children were removed from their home, citing confidentiality, but a child protection official indicated it was not because of the children's names.
"I can say we become involved when there is an allegation of abuse or neglect, and remove a child only if there is an imminent risk to the safety of child," she said. "We would never remove a child simply based on their name."
One of the family's neighbors said she had been called by DYFS to testify at a hearing Thursday but said she had not witnessed any "sexual or physical abuse."
"He [Heath Campbell] had some kind of hold over those kids and his wife. I don't think it was sexual or physical abuse, but the kids were confined to certain areas in the house," said Lori Dilts, 38, a neighbor and the daughter of the Campbells' landlord.
"It was more than just their names and the cake situation," said Dilts, who was reluctant to share any more details until after the hearing.
"Those children look outwardly healthy, but they didn't have much freedom," she said. "Occasionally, the little boy would come over here and would hate having to go back to his house."
Dilts said Campbell had swords and Nazi paraphernalia hanging on the walls of the family's home. She said the couple was unemployed and received government assistance to pay their rent.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6648877&page=1
Now to speculate a little more. Here is a father who isolated the kids, gave them these unusual names, and was unemployed and getting government assistance to pay his rent. Those are the facts.
Here is the speculation:
From what I've heard Skin Head Neo Nazi types blame minorities and immigrants from taking white american jobs and generally taking over the country which is probably what he was drilling into his kids as the reason for their financial situation. That coupled with being isolated from other kids and their unusual names which chances are they would get flack from other kids when ever they were around them would be the perfect breeding ground for little Adolf to fufill his names legacy. Again speculation but I don't think I'm very far off.
It is good to know for sure that the actions of the local government were not taken strictly on the basis of a name. However in this case the names could have very well served as a red flag to more serious matters.
kids arent a right they are a privelage. theyd be much better off00game00So if human beings dont have the RIGHT to reproduce, who has the RIGHT to take their kids away? Other humans? This is flawed logic.
I don't think it will hurt the kids to have names like this. Our next president has the name of the modern Hitler--Hussein. mysterylobsterim no f an of obama, but give it up already.
[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]I don't think it will hurt the kids to have names like this. Our next president has the name of the modern Hitler--Hussein. UNHOLY_basicim no f an of obama, but give it up already. Give what up? All I'm saying is he has an unfortunate name and he's reached the highest office in the land. I'm actually praising Obama for overcoming what could have been detrimental to his career.
[QUOTE="00game00"]kids arent a right they are a privelage. theyd be much better offUNHOLY_basicSo if human beings dont have the RIGHT to reproduce, who has the RIGHT to take their kids away? Other humans? This is flawed logic.
Not really (flawed logic) if you abuse that right/privelage then other humans will take them away for their safety. Other humans won't even let you treat your pet any old kind of way, just ask Michael Vick.
[QUOTE="UNHOLY_basic"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]I don't think it will hurt the kids to have names like this. Our next president has the name of the modern Hitler--Hussein. mysterylobsterim no f an of obama, but give it up already. Give what up? All I'm saying is he has an unfortunate name and he's reached the highest office in the land. I'm actually praising Obama for overcoming what could have been detrimental to his career. why is Hussein a bad o negative name?
[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]I don't think it's just the name but rather what the environment of the house hold as the kids grow up. (assuming there is no physical abuse) Is the mental well being of the kid served by letting him stay in a household that may be teaching him hate and intolerance as such a profound degree? interesting legal questions that i don't think are as clear cut as you'd like to make it seemThis is so ******* stupid: The 3 year old kid has the name Adolf Hitler Woopty ******* doo! It's just a name!!
So what now, a kid can't have a name that his or her parents gave them? That is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard or read.
the part that the kids were taken away because of their names is the stupid part about it all.
Ontain
Ok then, maybe I didn't think about that...
This is so ******* stupid: The 3 year old kid has the name Adolf Hitler Woopty ******* doo! It's just a name!!
So what now, a kid can't have a name that his or her parents gave them? That is the stupidest thing that I have ever heard or read.
the part that the kids were taken away because of their names is the stupid part about it all.
I don't think it's just the name but rather what the environment of the house hold as the kids grow up. (assuming there is no physical abuse) Is the mental well being of the kid served by letting him stay in a household that may be teaching him hate and intolerance as such a profound degree? interesting legal questions that i don't think are as clear cut as you'd like to make it seemOk then, maybe I didn't think about that...
The parents don't promote hatred, or worship Hitler they just said they don't believe the holocaust happened, but teach their kids tolerance and that while he was raised racist, his children have the right to believe what they will about the world.[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="Ontain"] I don't think it's just the name but rather what the environment of the house hold as the kids grow up. (assuming there is no physical abuse) Is the mental well being of the kid served by letting him stay in a household that may be teaching him hate and intolerance as such a profound degree? interesting legal questions that i don't think are as clear cut as you'd like to make it seemHybridPhoenix
Ok then, maybe I didn't think about that...
The parents don't promote hatred, or worship Hitler they just said they don't believe the holocaust happened, but teach their kids tolerance and that while he was raised racist, his children have the right to believe what they will about the world.This is true; Other people do not dictate what happens and what a person can and can't do. Not even their own parents. The right to believe what they want, is their right alone.
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Even racial slurs? That said, I think Oleg is just sore about being named "oleg" Proof:Why? That woman carried the child in her womb for 9 months, and gave birth. It's her child and she may name the child whatever she wants.
Jandurin
Hi! My real name is Oleg Huzwog, but you can all call me Oleg Huzwog. I'm purple years old and I live in purple. I love purple. I like all kinds of music and games, so long as the cover art is purple.
Oleg_Huzwog
okay..........
This is absurd. That woman has the right to name her kids whatever she wants. While it may be kind of tough for the kid throughout his early years of school, he could just get his name changed later on.LikeHateradeNo, she doesn't have the right to call her kid whatever she wants. You cant do something to somebody which will cause them mental anxiety, and giving somebody a name which will obviously attract horrible attention for their entire childhood falls under that remit if you ask me.
who are you and why did you quote my post? It was directed more at Oleg_Huzwog than anything.okay..........
molloytom
Ok then, maybe I didn't think about that...
The parents don't promote hatred, or worship Hitler they just said they don't believe the holocaust happened, but teach their kids tolerance and that while he was raised racist, his children have the right to believe what they will about the world.This is true; Other people do not dictate what happens and what a person can and can't do. Not even their own parents. The right to believe what they want, is their right alone.
The FATHER even said that, he said it was up to them what they wanted to view the world as.Please Log In to post.
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