People arrested for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial... is this real?

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#1 BMD004
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI

Is this for real?

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#2 supergoat777
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No honestly I think that was fake. :D

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It Seemed real.
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#4 Wolls
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Yea I saw that earlier and seems a bit crazy to me. Hope they sue
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#5 DivergeUnify
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Unless there is a law in the memorial... thats pretty shameful
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#6 agpickle
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You can arrest people for dancing, but you can't do anything about the Westboro Baptist Church. Good job America!

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#7 BMD004
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Unless there is a law in the memorial... thats pretty shameful DivergeUnify
Is there a strict no dancing policy? lol. Seems a bit petty.
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#8 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Unless there is a law in the memorial... thats pretty shameful BMD004
Is there a strict no dancing policy? lol. Seems a bit petty.

Yeah, thats what I'm asking :?

Petty indeed

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You can arrest people for dancing, but you can't do anything about the Westboro Baptist Church. Good job America!

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#10 branketra
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You can arrest people for dancing, but you can't do anything about the Westboro Baptist Church.

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That was the first thing that came to mind.
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#11 needled24-7
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looked real. pretty stupid though. gotta say that i don't know the laws of the jefferson memorial, but i doubt there's a rule against no dancing.

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#12 DJ419
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They sought out to be arrested, they got what they wanted. Nobody will remember this in a week. Move on to the next story of a teenager or hippy getting body slammed by a cop. It's a neverending cycle, and nothing ever changes or comes out of it when it does occur. Don't mess with the police and they won't mess with you, it is that simple. Unless your black. :roll:

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You can arrest people for dancing, but you can't do anything about the Westboro Baptist Church. Good job America!

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The Supreme Court confirmed that WBC can protest. While they didnt rule on anything on the former.
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After the first guy was arrested. It was a bad idea for those other clowns to start dancing. What did they think the cops were going to do? NOT arrest them?

It was pretty ridiculous for them to be arrested in the first place. I mean they were slow dancing. It's not like they were break dancing or something.

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After the first guy was arrested. It was a bad idea for those other clowns to start dancing. What did they think the cops were going to do? NOT arrest them?

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Perhaps they were protesting the initial arrest.
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It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack
Why not? If they're on public property and not being obscene, obstructive or loud (and I'm not saying they weren't), what's the issue?
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#18 _R34LiTY_
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I can only imagine what would happen if breakdancers started a session in there :twisted:

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It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack
I knew someone whose family friend requested a huge party at his own funeral. They did.

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Because it's defeating the purpose of the memorial, and it's rude. The issue isn't necessarily legality, but principal. That's what you kids don't get. And instead of being respectful of the officers, they decided to be dicks and disregard them.

Memorials are to be treated as a grave. A place for remembering someone who did something great, and made a difference. Have you ever visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? Same deal. You really shouldn't even be talking. Someone, maybe your parents, or your teachers, have failed to teach you, and many others that

[QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. BranKetra

I knew someone whose family friend requested a huge party at his own funeral. They did.

I don't think your friend was the founding father of a great nation though, now were they?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack
Why not? If they're on public property and not being obscene, obstructive or loud (and I'm not saying they weren't), what's the issue?

Because it's defeating the purpose of the memorial, and it's rude. The issue isn't necessarily legality, but principal.

You don't arrest people on principle. I agree that it's rude. But they don't seem to be breaking any law by quietly dancing on a public site. It's like the Westboro protests or burning the flag; rude it may be, but illegal it isn't.
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If the WBC can protest funerals while yelling obscenities I don't see why people can't dance at the Jefferson memorial unless there's some law against it.
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If the WBC can protest funerals while yelling obscenities I don't see why people can't dance at the Jefferson memorial unless there's some law against it.Moriarity_
And the people dancing will have fun appealing to the courts. The WBCs activities were deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] You don't arrest people on principle. I agree that it's rude. But they don't seem to be breaking any law by quietly dancing on a public site. It's like the Westboro protests or burning the flag; rude it may be, but illegal it isn't.

I was just answering the "Why not?" part. An arrest may be over the top, but really, those kids deserved to get their face smashed off the ground, even though they won't learn from it. They needed off the site though, and resisted. For the record, it's the government's site, and they are letting you on it. You aren't entitled ANYTHING, as opposed to modern beliefs of kids in this day and age. When you are allowed on someone else's turf, you are subject to their rules.
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#25 BMD004
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It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Seajack
That isn't his grave... it's a memorial.
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]If the WBC can protest funerals while yelling obscenities I don't see why people can't dance at the Jefferson memorial unless there's some law against it.DroidPhysX
And the people dancing will have fun appealing to the courts. The WBCs activities were deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court.

Theyw ere deemed constitutional on the basis of freedom of speech; the Supreme Court's ruling sets a precedent.
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It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Seajack

lol get over yourself, if you hate us so much then just don't post

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[QUOTE="Seajack"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] You don't arrest people on principle. I agree that it's rude. But they don't seem to be breaking any law by quietly dancing on a public site. It's like the Westboro protests or burning the flag; rude it may be, but illegal it isn't.

I was just answering the "Why not?" part. An arrest may be over the top, but really, those kids deserved to get their face smashed off the ground, even though they won't learn from it. They needed off the site though, and resisted. For the record, it's the government's site, and they are letting you on it. You aren't entitled ANYTHING, as opposed to modern beliefs of kids in this day and age. When you are allowed on someone else's turf, you are subject to their rules.

"The government's site" is public property. The highway is "the government's site" and they can't tell me what signs I can or cannot wave on it.
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#29 Wanderer5
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Seems to be a bit rude, but illegal?

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#30 Seajack
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[QUOTE="Seajack"]

It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

BMD004
That isn't his grave... it's a memorial.

I was totally unaware of that. Thanks for pointing that out! Anything else to teach me? I should have said headstone, as that's the picture I had in my mind. Does that change anything though? Would you dance on someone's headstone?
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#32 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Seajack"]

It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college . They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Seajack

lol get over yourself, if you hate us so much then just don't post

Get over myself? Jesus Christ.... Unlike you, I've earned the right to be full of myself and be a pissed off old man. If I didn't want to post here, I would stop. I have my reasons to be here though, and I'm not all butthurt about a couple stupid kids. Either contribute to the discussion, or stay out of it.

On the topic, the SCOTUS doesn't care if it's disrespectful. They didnt care in Texas v. Johnson, they didn't care in Snyder v. Phelps and they won't care if they get this case. Constitutional. And thats all that matters here.
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Because it's defeating the purpose of the memorial, and it's rude. The issue isn't necessarily legality, but principal. That's what you kids don't get. And instead of being respectful of the officers, they decided to be dicks and disregard them.

Memorials are to be treated as a grave. A place for remembering someone who did something great, and made a difference. Have you ever visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? Same deal. You really shouldn't even be talking. Someone, maybe your parents, or your teachers, have failed to teach you, and many others that

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack

I knew someone whose family friend requested a huge party at his own funeral. They did.

I don't think your friend was the founding father of a great nation though, now were they?

Get off your horse and stop acting like a child. I don't think it's appropriate to shout or dance at memorials but what the officers did in the video is ****ing disgraceful. I will admit it's a pretty good attempt at trolling though if that's what you're out for.

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It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Seajack
While I can agree that it's not respectful to dance on someone's grave, I completely disagree with the your statement about hats. I don't believe a hat on someone's head means anything more than a hat on a head. It has nothing to do with disrespect, or anything to do with the beliefs of that person.
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#35 Seajack
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[QUOTE="Seajack"]

It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Stinger78
While I can agree that it's not respectful to dance on someone's grave, I completely disagree with the your statement about hats. I don't believe a hat on someone's head means anything more than a hat on a head. It has nothing to do with disrespect, or anything to do with the beliefs of that person.

Go do some research then. You'll find that historically, there is a lot of etiquette to be had with hats. Up until recently, the etiquette had remained very prevalent. I learned my etiquette from the Navy, who are freaks about "hats on/hats off".
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Because it's defeating the purpose of the memorial, and it's rude. The issue isn't necessarily legality, but principal. That's what you kids don't get. And instead of being respectful of the officers, they decided to be dicks and disregard them.

Memorials are to be treated as a grave. A place for remembering someone who did something great, and made a difference. Have you ever visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? Same deal. You really shouldn't even be talking. Someone, maybe your parents, or your teachers, have failed to teach you, and many others that

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="Seajack"]It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave. Seajack

I knew someone whose family friend requested a huge party at his own funeral. They did.

I don't think your friend was the founding father of a great nation though, now were they?

It wasn't my friend. I never met him. Anyway, what a smartass thing to say.

Basically, you're saying that the more important a person is, the more respect you should show towards them? That makes sense. It also makes sense that they demonstrated at Thomas Jefferson's memorial, since he was so important to the U.S.

If the rules say that it can't be done inside, it's one thing.

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Well that seemed a bit excessive.

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#38 xxmatt125xx
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You would think the Police would at least use common sense to judge the situation before acting.
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#39 Seajack
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BranKetra
Yeah, it kind of was smartassy. I apologize.

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#40 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Seajack

Yeah, it kind of was smartassy. I apologize.

It's fine.
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#41 Blue-Sky
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It's only a big deal because the cops were there.

If the cops weren't there and the people continued to dance, no one would of cared that they were dancing there.

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I saw a bit of arrogance from both parties involved... the police used excessive force no doubt... but the people involved were asking for it a bit.
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Seajack"]

It's supposed to be a soloemn place for quiet reflection. Not a goddamn party place. You don't dance on someone's grave.

Seems like a bunch of college dumbasses. They had hats on in the memorial, totally disrespectful.

Typical kids with no respect. That's why I hate most of you on here.

Seajack

lol get over yourself, if you hate us so much then just don't post

Get over myself? Jesus Christ.... Unlike you, I've earned the right to be full of myself and be a pissed off old man. If I didn't want to post here, I would stop. I have my reasons to be here though, and I'm not all butthurt about a couple stupid kids. Either contribute to the discussion, or stay out of it.

unlike me? you don't know me so how are you going to say what i have earned or not earned?

and yes, you do need to get over yourself

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#44 HexedPelican
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I think they should of kicked them out and not arrested them, they weren't breaking any laws to my knowledge by dancing.
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No dancing allowed in the United States of America. :(
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There's gotta' be more to this.

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Well, the officer said there was a rule against dancing. If this is true, then I have nothing against what they did. They politely asked the people to leave, but quite frankly they started acting as douchebags. They were obviously trying to be arrested and incite excessive force from the police. And if there is such a rule, then these people can appeal it in court and get it overturned and proceed to dance on a memorial if they want.

Now if the officer was lying about the rule, then he certainly deserves to be punished. Still, I don't care that these people were arrested. Even though it is not illegal, I consider it disrespectful in principle, and they were clearly trying to get arrested.

EDIT: Well, my suspicions were true, and this video did not tell the whole story. The protest was about a federal court decision that banned dancing at Jefferson Memorial. They were warned beforehand by the Park Service that they would not give any warnings and arrest them on the spot (and the officer in the video actually did warn them). So my case rests - they went there to be arrested, and they were arrested. I'm fine with it.

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Well, the officer said there was a rule against dancing. If this is true, then I have nothing against what they did.stanleycup98

Really? You have nothing against people getting arrested for something as petty as dancing? You seem to be the type of person who will obey anything that's made into a "rule". Try to understand how pathetic the situation is, arrested for dancing? Come on, most people would have re-acted the same way if someone told them they couldn't do something like dance.

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#49 MushroomWig
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they went there to be arrested, and they were arrested. I'm fine with it.

stanleycup98

It's more a case of they went there to stand up for freedom of speech and demonstration The entire idea of being arrested for dancing is so completely stupid and the government needs to be shown that it can't make up stupid rules and just expect everyone to be okay with it.


It's a shame that some people will just go along with whatever the govenment tells them to without any hesitation or resistance.

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Ah so there was a decision of banning dancing at the Jefferson Memorial and that why these people were there.A bit silly but I am with the officers then especially since the some of the prosters were really pushing the officers' buttons.