Pirating Music (right or wrong)

Is pirating music right or wrong?

I say it's right, but it's hard for my Conscience to stop me when I'm firing up limewire.

I didnt know there were songs made by pirates...Jakendo

You haven't heard the Rrrrrrrrrr song!

It's stealing without permission, and... yeah... Although I don't know when stealing is done with permission...Aquat1cF1sh

That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.Darth_Tyrev

[QUOTE="Darth_Tyrev"]That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.LJS9502_basic

They are paid for their work. They are overpaid for their work. No amount of pirating will change that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Darth_Tyrev"]That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.Darth_Tyrev

They are paid for their work. They are overpaid for their work. No amount of pirating will change that.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Darth_Tyrev"]That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.Darth_Tyrev

They are paid for their work. They are overpaid for their work. No amount of pirating will change that.

Pirating a whole CD i think is wrong... Pirating a few songs... not so bad. Akm4everz

That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.Darth_Tyrev

although they may make almost too much money, they still created the work, and in turn, are entitled to the money it makes, via CD, concerts, merchendise, or whatever. The notion that music is created for the people is not entirely true, in fact, I say it's mostly false. A lot of people (At least in classical music), write for a living, and live off their compositions, so even if rock musicians, or whoever, make a lot more, they still deserve to get paid.

This was on top of the page.

ON CNET: Kid Rock's take on illegal downloading

Anywho its wrong plain and simple stealing copyrighted material.

Pirating music that you would have bought if you couldn't pirate it just because you don't want to pay for it is wrong. But IMO if you weren't going to buy it at all, then there isn't anything wrong with pirating it because you aren't really stealing anything, or at least, the makers don't lose anything.Twiggiy

Pirating music that you would have bought if you couldn't pirate it just because you don't want to pay for it is wrong. But IMO if you weren't going to buy it at all, then there isn't anything wrong with pirating it because you aren't really stealing anything, or at least, the makers don't lose anything.Twiggiy

they do lose something, the proceeds of the music you stole by downloading it is gone, without any sale. That's still theft

Pirating music that you would have bought if you couldn't pirate it just because you don't want to pay for it is wrong. But IMO if you weren't going to buy it at all, then there isn't anything wrong with pirating it because you aren't really stealing anything, or at least, the makers don't lose anything.Twiggiy

No, if you aren't going to buy it you aren't entitled to it.

iTunes is almost like pirating. They're stealing music from artists and selling them on their website.

It's wrong, but I only buy albums that are very rare on the internet. I just bought Julieta Venegas - MTV Unplugged.

Yep...wrong. No discussion needed. Those that pirate do so knowing they are stealing someone else's work....LJS9502_basic

You are incorrect. Most musicians want you to steal.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yep...wrong. No discussion needed. Those that pirate do so knowing they are stealing someone else's work....Diablo112688

You are incorrect. Most musicians want you to steal.

If you think that's right, it's right. If do you think that's wrong, thats wrong!

My opinion:right, because some folks are poor enough to buy expensive music or games.

Wrong of course. If someone asks payment for something they created, you have a moral duty to pay it if you want access to whatever it is they're demanding payment for, since they were the ones who spent the time and effort making it available in the first place. People can offer their services and talents for free if they wish... but no person has a right to impose that decision on another person.

You can't tell a person that you don't think you should have to pay them for their work for 'X' reason. You'd be extremely ticked off if someone did that to you. So no matter what rationale you come up with - the music's a rip-off, everybody else is doing it, musicians should be about art, not money, you name it - you're still acting immorally.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yep...wrong. No discussion needed. Those that pirate do so knowing they are stealing someone else's work....Diablo112688

You are incorrect. Most musicians want you to steal.

Then they'd offer it for free. :|

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yep...wrong. No discussion needed. Those that pirate do so knowing they are stealing someone else's work....pianist

You are incorrect. Most musicians want you to steal.

Then they'd offer it for free. :|

A lot of bands do.

Obviously it's wrong, but some people are too poor to pay $10-15 for every album they want to listen to. Same as video games, applications, etc.Zaeryn

Then you buy used. I do it all the time.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yep...wrong. No discussion needed. Those that pirate do so knowing they are stealing someone else's work....pianist

You are incorrect. Most musicians want you to steal.

Then they'd offer it for free. :|

Then there will be no music in the first place. You need money to create music.

Right or wrong who cares it's FREE lol...babyblue2525

If you think that's right, it's right. If do you think that's wrong, thats wrong!

My opinion:right, because some folks are poor enough to buy expensive music or games.

kono11

Wrong of course. If someone asks payment for something they created, you have a moral duty to pay it if you want access to whatever it is they're demanding payment for, since they were the ones who spent the time and effort making it available in the first place. People can offer their services and talents for free if they wish... but no person has a right to impose that decision on another person.

You can't tell a person that you don't think you should have to pay them for their work for 'X' reason. You'd be extremely ticked off if someone did that to you. So no matter what rationale you come up with - the music's a rip-off, everybody else is doing it, musicians should be about art, not money, you name it - you're still acting immorally.

pianist

I've heard many musicians say they don't care if people steal their music, and some even encourage it (especially many 60's bands like the Grateful Dead who often had free concerts). Everyone who doesn't is a sellout as far as I'm concerned.yabbicoke

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Darth_Tyrev"]That South Park episode on this subject sums up my feelings. Music is an art form, musicians are suppose to do it because they love it not because it makes them millionaires. And it's not like they go through hard times, they still make millions on CD sales, as well as concerts and merchandise.Darth_Tyrev

They are paid for their work. They are overpaid for their work. No amount of pirating will change that.

Most musicians aren't paid very well for their work at all. Don't be fooled by the small minority that becomes exceedingly wealthy.