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The video makes me feel sick.
What's wrong with these people? Feeling unsafe because someone is filming them on their own property? Completely insane!
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The video makes me feel sick.
What's wrong with these people? Feeling unsafe because someone is filming them on their own property? Completely insane!
LMAO that sly f***. "you seem very anti-police... due to what you said to me before you started taping me."
LMAO that sly f***. "you seem very anti-police... due to what you said to me before you started taping me." xTheExploited
Clever son of a gun :lol:
Police were right to ask her to go into the house. But that's not enough for arrest, I don't think. mrmusicman247She has every right to be on her property. She wasn't doing anything illegal and it appeared that she wasn't intoxicated. If any charges stick on her I'm disgusted in america.
[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Police were right to ask her to go into the house. MushroomWigThey were? Why? She said she was a friend of the person who was being arrested. They didn't know if she would attack them to free her friend while they weren't looking. At least that's what I think,
[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Police were right to ask her to go into the house. But that's not enough for arrest, I don't think. OmniXIISlashShe has every right to be on her property. She wasn't doing anything illegal and it appeared that she wasn't intoxicated. If any charges stick on her I'm disgusted in america. I'm pretty sure you can't tape the criminal being arrested without having him/her signing a wavier. I may be wrong though.
I'm not exactly sure what is happening in that video, but from what I gather she was recording them arresting someone, but from her own property. They asked her to stop but she refused (because what she was doing was legal, right?). So then they arrested her, and let the original guy they were arresting go?
Well, I'm thinking about going to school in Rochester next year. I'm glad to know that the police there will keep me safe. :P
[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Police were right to ask her to go into the house. mrmusicman247They were? Why? She said she was a friend of the person who was being arrested. They didn't know if she would attack them to free her friend while they weren't looking. At least that's what I think, that seems to me like it would fall under the guilty until proven innocent principle, which i dont think is the right way to deal with things
[QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Police were right to ask her to go into the house. But that's not enough for arrest, I don't think. DroidPhysXShe has every right to be on her property. She wasn't doing anything illegal and it appeared that she wasn't intoxicated. If any charges stick on her I'm disgusted in america. I'm pretty sure you can't tape the criminal being arrested without having him/her signing a wavier. I may be wrong though. Well it's good the guy wasn't arrested and the cop never said that. He arrested her for not following his orders which were unreasonable and a clear violation of her rights.
i'm pro police but with that being said i consider every encounter with them a life and death situation.
the vast majority are on your side but individuals are individuals and you never can be sure of how an encounter will go.
Not that I defend cops....but she was warned several times.LJS9502_basicShe backed up when they asked her to. It's was unreasonable for them to tell her to go inside. The cops can't take away your rights when you're doing nothing wrong like that.
[QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Police were right to ask her to go into the house. But that's not enough for arrest, I don't think. DroidPhysXShe has every right to be on her property. She wasn't doing anything illegal and it appeared that she wasn't intoxicated. If any charges stick on her I'm disgusted in america. I'm pretty sure you can't tape the criminal being arrested without having him/her signing a wavier. I may be wrong though.if that was true all surveillance cameras would be illegal on the off chance someone being arrestedcould be filmed by accident.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not that I defend cops....but she was warned several times.OmniXIISlashShe backed up when they asked her to. It's was unreasonable for them to tell her to go inside. The cops can't take away your rights when you're doing nothing wrong like that. If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument?
[QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not that I defend cops....but she was warned several times.LJS9502_basicShe backed up when they asked her to. It's was unreasonable for them to tell her to go inside. The cops can't take away your rights when you're doing nothing wrong like that. If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument? Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrest
If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument? Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"] She backed up when they asked her to. It's was unreasonable for them to tell her to go inside. The cops can't take away your rights when you're doing nothing wrong like that. AngelNeo00
[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court. Some lady standing there with a video camera scares 3 cops? That makes a lot of sense.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument?LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court.if cops are allowed to arrest people because they "don't feel safe" then they could arrest nearly whoever they want, just gotta say they didn't feel safe. i video camera is not threatening at all, if she was video taping the incident and was also holding a gun, then i would think differently about it.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument?LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="AngelNeo00"] Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court. Some lady standing there with a video camera scares 3 cops? That makes a lot of sense. Doesn't matter. She was warned several times. Her fault....Person0
[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court. Understood, however, I don't see how she was not allowing the police to perform their duty. All she was doing was recording which does not impede the officers in anyway. If anything it puts the officers on notice and makes them perform their job better.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument?LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not that I defend cops....but she was warned several times.LJS9502_basicShe backed up when they asked her to. It's was unreasonable for them to tell her to go inside. The cops can't take away your rights when you're doing nothing wrong like that. If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument? She wasn't being threatening. Now if a cop ever tells me to go inside when I'm on my own property he better feel threatened cause I'm going to hurt him.
Some lady standing there with a video camera scares 3 cops? That makes a lot of sense. Doesn't matter. She was warned several times. Her fault.... But she was doing nothing wrong. She was on her property, making no distractions, and did not threaten anybody. A cop can not just force you to go inside your house for no reason.[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]As I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court.LJS9502_basic
Some lady standing there with a video camera scares 3 cops? That makes a lot of sense. Doesn't matter. She was warned several times. Her fault.... I'm warning you to never post on these forums again. If you do I'm going to have to arrest you and take you to jail. Now does that make sense? no? Cops can't make unreasonable requests like that.[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]As I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court.LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="AngelNeo00"] Threaten by a female holding a camera? Cmon this was definitely an unlawful arrestAs I said I don't wish to defend cops....but the arrest isn't unlawful. You are not allowed to impede the police from performing their duty. Considering he said several times he didn't feel safe...the arrest will stand and she'll end up paying a fine undoubtedly to the court. Some lady standing there with a video camera scares 3 cops? That makes a lot of sense.That camera is a weapon of mass distracion and is impeding the police officers from doing illegal things themselves, that is why she was arrested. I see no other logic.Person0
Just another way that cops try to assert their authority through bullying. They make up crap about feeling unsafe just because someone is outside in their yard with nothing but a camera. Like someone couldn't shoot them through their window. That cop should be on suspension without pay for pure stupidity. Maybe even fired depending on what he has done thus far. On the show Cops, you always see people outside in their yards and on the street watching, so he can't say this is the first time that people have seen hime arrest someone. It was purely because he was being filmed. If he had nothing to hide, then there wouldn't be a problem. Leads me to believe that he's dirty and that he doesn't like the fact that there is a chance that he could be caught for police brutality or theft or whatever. Cops like him make me sick yet they make up a decent proportion. And they wonder why people don't trust the police. F***in sorry bunch. Power corrupts. It's obvious watching things like this.
i have friends that are cops. really nice people. wished i was a police officernarutosupSame here, there are clearly plenty of good cops out there. It's just a shame that certain cops feel the need to act like this. There was literally nothing to gain from arresting her and for them to say such an obvious lie was just disgusting.
[QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If they feel threatened...then it's not an unreasonable request. She should have complied. In the end....she had to spend time in jail rather than the house. Who won that argument?LJS9502_basicShe wasn't being threatening. Now if a cop ever tells me to go inside when I'm on my own property he better feel threatened cause I'm going to hurt him. As I said....the law backs up the cops. *shrugs*There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American.
As I said....the law backs up the cops. *shrugs*There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American. It's not a corrupt law to not permit citizens from getting in the way of police work. Cops have to have situations under control at all times. First...we don't know anything that happened prior to her recording or at least what is released from the recording. Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="OmniXIISlash"] She wasn't being threatening. Now if a cop ever tells me to go inside when I'm on my own property he better feel threatened cause I'm going to hurt him. Yongying
wow, the woman was trying to be polite even, the cop must have been in a bad mood or something. "i don't feel safe with you standing behind us" there's 3 of them, one of them can watch the suspect, one of them can search the car, and one of them can watch the girl filming, that way nobody gets hurt :|
[QUOTE="Yongying"]There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American. It's not a corrupt law to not permit citizens from getting in the way of police work. Cops have to have situations under control at all times. First...we don't know anything that happened prior to her recording or at least what is released from the recording. Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.if a cop told you to walk into the middle of interstate traffic, would you do it?[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] As I said....the law backs up the cops. *shrugs*LJS9502_basic
I'll give this 1 week before it is completely forgotten by the public and nothing will come out of it, and I will give somewhere between 20 to 30 days before the next video of someone getting arrested in an unreasonable fashoin, thus starting the cycle all over again. Business as usual people, until police start demanding money from you or they'll arrest you or start routinely raping and killing people. Just do what they say and there won't be any problems. I'm not really sure what this women was getting out of video taping someone getting arrested.
I don't know....he had more patience with her than most cops would. And it's not like they confiscated her camera. Whether you (in general) like cops or not....they are in a dangerous and stressful job. If they considered her a threat....and from the video at least one did...then they can tell you to disperse or go inside. She should have done that.Cops like this are responsible for the bad impressions of the police, which many good, honest ones have to deal with. :(
-Shooter-
Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.LJS9502_basicObviously that depends on the situation, something similar happened here in the UK and it turned out completely different; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHcugN1Tyg&feature=player_embedded It's a shame that people will just bend over backwards just because an officer says so.
[QUOTE="Yongying"]There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American. It's not a corrupt law to not permit citizens from getting in the way of police work. Cops have to have situations under control at all times. First...we don't know anything that happened prior to her recording or at least what is released from the recording. Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] As I said....the law backs up the cops. *shrugs*LJS9502_basic
I know that you want to back up the cops at every turn, but points to make. First, she was standing in her yard nowhere close to what was happening, how was she impeding? Was she screaming at them? Was she actually physically getting in the way? Secondly, SHE WAS STANDING IN HER YARD. That is her property and she was doing absolutely NOTHING illegal. They can't just legally tell you to do something in your own property just because of an excuse. If this was so, then all they have to do when they suspect anything is to knock on your door and when you answer, they just simply tell you to open the door, let them in, and let them search your entire place. According to you, you should listen to them at ALL times. Why not just let them tell you to let them in and you do it? Who needs privacy and rights when the cops authority is on the line. If a cop told you to bark and hop around like a dog, would do it, for no reason, other than the cop told you to? I'm sorry. I just can't listen just because They said when you're not in the way and you're on your own property being completely legal. It's called abuse of power.
It's not a corrupt law to not permit citizens from getting in the way of police work. Cops have to have situations under control at all times. First...we don't know anything that happened prior to her recording or at least what is released from the recording. Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.if a cop told you to walk into the middle of interstate traffic, would you do it? Bad analogy. He didn't tell her to do anything dangerous. He asked that she remove herself from the vicinity of their presence while apprehending someone.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Yongying"]There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American.
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[QUOTE="Yongying"]There is the law, and also the corrupt side of it. The corrupt side would back up those cops. A corrupt law is anti American. It's not a corrupt law to not permit citizens from getting in the way of police work. Cops have to have situations under control at all times. First...we don't know anything that happened prior to her recording or at least what is released from the recording. Second...if a cop tells you to move...you leave. Simple.She was not in their way, she was on her property and wasn't doing anything illegal acording to the law, so, what law are you refering to if not the corrupt side of it? Secondly, in that circumstance, if a cop tells you to leave your property you have every right to refuse without being unlawfully arrested.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] As I said....the law backs up the cops. *shrugs*LJS9502_basic
Man I wish every state was a POLICE STATE like New York. That way we can arrest evil wrongdoers like this and then pay more tax dollars to keep them in prison. Just think about the benefits our police force will have from all that extra money!
This right here is the reason 2nd Amendment exists - not so that we can defend our property, but so we can make a statement as to the stupidity of laws passed by fat, incompetent officials elected by the uneducated masses.
Granted, if a lawyer saw this video, he'd eat them alive in court. Those cops would be out of their job. I can only hope that is the case. Morons like that shouldn't be "defending" innocents.
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