Police Brutality: This has got to be the most rediculous beating yet.

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#1 Ultimas_Blade
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Don't get me wrong, criminals should be punished, but this is overkill.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/20/alabama.police.beating/index.html

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#3 jimmyjammer69
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For all those officers know, the driver could have been dead when they got there. If he had died from head injuries, it would have been extremely difficult to prove that beating wasn't the cause. They can't handle their rage so they shouldn't be on the police force.
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#4 Ultimas_Blade
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For all those officers know, the driver could have been dead when they got there. If he had died from head injuries, it would have been extremely difficult to prove that beating wasn't the cause. They can't handle their rage so they shouldn't be on the police force.jimmyjammer69

Not only that, but it took the prosecutors bringing this up for it to come to light! They had this video for over a year and there was nothing done about it by their superiors.

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Holy crap. Really, just wow. They really must of been in rage mode.

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after getting thrown out of the car, they could've checked to see if he was alive, not beat the crap out of him some more.
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As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.
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Fired? Pff ridiculous, a warning would have sufficed.
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I'm glad those cops were fired, in my opinion, they should have been jailed for about 5 years each, with the guy ramming him 10. That was simply inexcusable.

And by 10 I mean the period of time between the PS1's peak popularity and today, i.e. 1999 to 2009, or in this case, 2009 to 2019.

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As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.AAllxxjjnn

He DID hit that cop.

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#11 Famiking
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I'm glad those cops were fired, in my opinion, they should have been jailed for about 5 years each, with the guy ramming him 10. That was simply inexcusable.

And by 10 I mean the period of time between the PS1's peak popularity and today, i.e. 1999 to 2009, or in this case, 2009 to 2019.

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I think 2 years and a tax increase of 10% for 3 years would do.
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#12 effena
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That was some very indiscretional work. The cops should've definitely did some time

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The **** psycho went out of his way and swirved to try and run over a cop. He's lucky that's all he got.

Just read other comments, did the dude die?

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As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.AAllxxjjnn

Um, heard of excessive force? A cop's job is enforcement, not judgement, and it looks to me like they didn't even try to restrain him,they just wailed on him. A good cop would've stuck a heavy knee on his back and cuffed him.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.Ultimas_Blade

Um, heard of excessive force? A cop's job is enforcement, not judgement, and it looks to me like they didn't even try to restrain him,they just wailed on him. A good cop would've stuck a heavy knee on his back and cuffed him.

Yeh, i have heard of excessive force. He deserved a good ass kicking.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.AAllxxjjnn

Um, heard of excessive force? A cop's job is enforcement, not judgement, and it looks to me like they didn't even try to restrain him,they just wailed on him. A good cop would've stuck a heavy knee on his back and cuffed him.

Yeh, i have heard of excessive force. He deserved a good ass kicking.

While he's lying face-down and immobile by the roadside, having been hurled from a flipped car, possibly dead?
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#17 effena
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The **** psycho went out of his way and swirved to try and run over a cop. He's lucky that's all he got.

Just read other comments, did the dude die?

Chutebox

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

The **** psycho went out of his way and swirved to try and run over a cop. He's lucky that's all he got.

Just read other comments, did the dude die?

effena

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

Also, he swirves before the cop throws down the spikes.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="effena"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

The **** psycho went out of his way and swirved to try and run over a cop. He's lucky that's all he got.

Just read other comments, did the dude die?

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Um, heard of excessive force? A cop's job is enforcement, not judgement, and it looks to me like they didn't even try to restrain him,they just wailed on him. A good cop would've stuck a heavy knee on his back and cuffed him.

jimmyjammer69

Yeh, i have heard of excessive force. He deserved a good ass kicking.

While he's lying face-down and immobile by the roadside, having been hurled from a flipped car, possibly dead?

Umm yeh, he's a piece of **** that put everyone on that road in danger. He hit a ****ing cop dude.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

The **** psycho went out of his way and swirved to try and run over a cop. He's lucky that's all he got.

Just read other comments, did the dude die?

effena

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

Oh it was just an "accident" :| He was trying to break the law more by continuing to try and escape from the cops. Seriously.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="effena"]

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?

I don't know. Like I said, I couldn't imagine being in the shoes of those cops who almost had one of theirs run over and who knows what else. It's always easy to pass judgment from the outside without knowing what it's like in their shoes.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Yeh, i have heard of excessive force. He deserved a good ass kicking.AAllxxjjnn

While he's lying face-down and immobile by the roadside, having been hurled from a flipped car, possibly dead?

Umm yeh, he's a piece of **** that put everyone on that road in danger. He hit a ****ing cop dude.

So every law-breaker who disregards the life of another deserves not only to be arrested, tried and punished, but also to get kicked in the head by the police?
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="effena"]

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?

Guy almost kills your friend. Is putting many other people's lives in danger. I'm sure you would be pissed as **** in that situation.
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#25 effena
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Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

Chutebox

Suspected drug charges. Read the article.

The police are there to uphold the law. The punishment is for the courts to decide.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

effena

Suspected drug charges. Read the article.

The police are there to uphold the law. The punishment is for the courts to decide.

Man, police are human. They were reacting to what just went down. It's not right, but I'm not here to blame them for the way they reacted.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

Chutebox

So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?

I don't know. Like I said, I couldn't imagine being in the shoes of those cops who almost had one of theirs run over and who knows what else. It's always easy to pass judgment from the outside without knowing what it's like in their shoes.

I understand that, but we do expect them to be able to control themselves better than the average person. If they can't, then they're not right for the job - hence the firing.

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Yeh, i have heard of excessive force. He deserved a good ass kicking.AAllxxjjnn

While he's lying face-down and immobile by the roadside, having been hurled from a flipped car, possibly dead?

Umm yeh, he's a piece of **** that put everyone on that road in danger. He hit a ****ing cop dude.

Hitting a cop his wrong, using excessive for is wrong too. His job is to restrain him and bring him in, not curbstomp him. They are acting like a lawlessmob. If thiscriminal was dead/dying, and they were beating on his corpse these fools would be on trial for lynching. They took the law into their own fists.

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#29 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?jimmyjammer69

I don't know. Like I said, I couldn't imagine being in the shoes of those cops who almost had one of theirs run over and who knows what else. It's always easy to pass judgment from the outside without knowing what it's like in their shoes.

I understand that, but we do expect them to be able to control themselves better than the average person. If they can't, then they're not right for the job - hence the firing.

That's fine, I'm not saying they don't deserve what they got. But people come down on police way too hard without knowing what they go through.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

AAllxxjjnn

So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?

Guy almost kills your friend. Is putting many other people's lives in danger. I'm sure you would be pissed as **** in that situation.

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

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So every law-breaker who disregards the life of another deserves not only to be arrested, tried and punished, but also to get kicked in the head by the police?jimmyjammer69
It's very hard to argue with fascists, keep level-headed.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] So what you're saying is that you'd have done the same thing?jimmyjammer69

Guy almost kills your friend. Is putting many other people's lives in danger. I'm sure you would be pissed as **** in that situation.

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

Guy almost kills your friend. Is putting many other people's lives in danger. I'm sure you would be pissed as **** in that situation.AAllxxjjnn

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.

Well, if they say "The guy was asking for it!" then I'd have already decided.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Guy almost kills your friend. Is putting many other people's lives in danger. I'm sure you would be pissed as **** in that situation.AAllxxjjnn

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.

Being human is no excuse for this beating. These former policemen she be charged with assault and battery.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] While he's lying face-down and immobile by the roadside, having been hurled from a flipped car, possibly dead?Ultimas_Blade

Umm yeh, he's a piece of **** that put everyone on that road in danger. He hit a ****ing cop dude.

Hitting a cop his wrong, using excessive for is wrong too. His job is to restrain him and bring him in, not curbstomp him. They are acting like a lawlessmob. If thiscriminal was dead/dying, and they were beating on his corpse these fools would be on trial for lynching. They took the law into their own fists.

Never said it wasn't wrong. But i really don't feel sympathy for the guy. I'd kick his ass too. I'm just not gonna blame the cops for how they reacted there, it's understandable.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

jimmyjammer69

Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.

Well, if they say "The guy was asking for it!" then I'd have already decided.

That's the point though, I think most wouldn't say that and really be honest. But when put in the situation, **** changes man.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

If I had to decide whether somebody were suitable for military grunt or police officer, that's exactly the sort of incident I'd ask them to judge.

Ultimas_Blade

Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.

Being human is no excuse for this beating. These former policemen she be charged with assault and battery.

Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.

It's perfectly human to not assault someone.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.Chutebox

Well, if they say "The guy was asking for it!" then I'd have already decided.

That's the point though, I think most wouldn't say that and really be honest. But when put in the situation, **** changes man.

Maybe you're right, or maybe people would react differently in these situations. Of course, I'm not literally serious about that "test" but If someone says to you immediately that they think the officers were right in the first place, then you can assume that he would react as those policemen did. The real point is that the police should be either more selective or better train officers to vent or control that kind of aggression.
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.

It's perfectly human to not assault someone.

Really? Ever been in the situation those cops were just in?
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Really? So how do they figure out how someone will react in that situation? They're only human.AAllxxjjnn

Being human is no excuse for this beating. These former policemen she be charged with assault and battery.

Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.

Robots? You're condoning them acting like the people they are paid to arrest: criminals. Cops are held to a standard and this clearly was well below that standard. If they wanted to act like this, they shouldn't be cops (and now they aren't) andthey should serve prison sentences.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Really? Ever been in the situation those cops were just in?

Have you?
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#43 effena
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Never said it wasn't wrong. But i really don't feel sympathy for the guy. I'd kick his ass too. I'm just not gonna blame the cops for how they reacted there, it's understandable. AAllxxjjnn

I'm sorry, but I do not understand beating a defenseless person with four other people, regardless of what he's done. It's not understandable, and since they were cops, it makes it unprofessional as well

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Ok, I watched the video again, and I also saw how he almost hit a cop. Disgusting, he deserved what was coming and those cops should be given medals.
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Really? Ever been in the situation those cops were just in?

Have you?

No, i haven't, and that's why i'm not going to say i wouldn't have reacted that way in a situation where someone just put me in danger like that.
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#46 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Never said it wasn't wrong. But i really don't feel sympathy for the guy. I'd kick his ass too. I'm just not gonna blame the cops for how they reacted there, it's understandable. effena

I'm sorry, but I do not understand beating a defenseless person with four other people, regardless of what he's done. It's not understandable, and since they were cops, it makes it unprofessional as well

He pretty much signed away those rights the minute he decided to break the law and put everyone else's lives in danger.
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#47 Famiking
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] No, i haven't, and that's why i'm not going to say i wouldn't have reacted that way in a situation where someone just put me in danger like that.

Whether you would have reacted that way or not doesn't change what actually happened - poorly justified police brutality to a person that already got his just desserts.
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#48 11Marcel
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The whole point of having cops is that they enforce such a behaviour that instead of being judged by emotional human beings, people are judged by courts. One of the things a cop should always do is keep a cool head, and behave professionally. All that crap about "they're just human" doesn't really make sense, because if every cop was "just human" every cop would be corrupt too. Cops should have some kind of barrier to stop them from this kind of behaviour. What if the man in the car would've been alive if the cops didn't beat him up, but the beating did the last bit?

There's a difference between being a robot and behaving professionally, and beating up a severely injured man lying on the ground because he hit one of your colleagues. If policemen can't keep their cool in such situations, then they either need more training or aren't fit to be policemen.

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#49 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Being human is no excuse for this beating. These former policemen she be charged with assault and battery.

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Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.

Robots? You're condoning them acting like the people they are paid to arrest: criminals. Cops are held to a standard and this clearly was well below that standard. If they wanted to act like this, they shouldn't be cops (and now they aren't) andthey should serve prison sentences.

You can't expect that from a HUMAN. **** happens, you can't always control your emotions. It's not that easy.
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#50 Famiking
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] You can't expect that from a HUMAN. **** happens, you can't always control your emotions. It's not that easy.

If cops are just "human" in the context you describe then they should not be policemen.