Police Brutality: This has got to be the most rediculous beating yet.

Police officers are all individuals, if they act against the wishes of the state, then they're not fascists. You guys are whining about how these police officers are criminals because they did something which is against the law. You call them fascists. Ok, explain to me what the difference is between gang-members doing something which is against the law and police officers doing something which is against the law? You're advocating that they should be treated as normal citizens but then you're saying that we should label them differently because of their governmental position. Humans are humans and if two individuals does something which is counter-productive to the state, then they're NOT fascists...regardless of their position.jointed

The police are given special privileges in order to conduct their work effectively on the basis that they're representing common justice, but are expected to act according to strict guidelines. Once they overstep that boundary, they're not behaving as representatives of the law, but as ordinary people, despite carrying all of the symbols of the state representatives of justice. If they aren't punished, it's as though the state approves of their actions as it's executives.

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.Guybrush_3

In the situation not assaulting the guy is probably the opposite of what the natural human reaction is.

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Look at the situation they were in. I can see why they reacted the way they did. You're asking them to be robots.Guybrush_3

In the situation not assaulting the guy is probably the opposite of what the natural human reaction is.

Wow. That's a pretty bleak outlook. I pity you.

[QUOTE="effena"]

He didn't "go out of his way" to hit the cop. If you look at the road, there was a spike strip he tried to avoid. I'd say hitting the cop was purley accidental. Too bad the same can't be said for the 5 morons who beat him.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.

zombiefruit

Lol? Nice one.

I'd have just shot him in the head. Why do criminals deserve rights? If a criminal breaks the law, and endagers police officers then why should we feed and house them in a prison? zombiefruit

They deserve rights because they are humans. Taking away their rights and shooting them in the streetsis unethical and unpatriotic.

Great how this turned into a discussion of what fascism is...

Cya

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Man, people are so quick to judge the cops reacting to what they just went through. Not the **** crook who almost killed a cop and did who knows what else.zombiefruit

Great how this turned into a discussion of what fascism is...

Cya

11Marcel

Wow this thread really went off the rails

Wow this thread really went off the rails

effena

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="jointed"] That's easy for you to say, try chasing a rampaging idiot through out town while he's trying to run your colleagues over and at the same time remain 100 % calm. He didn't die now did he? A good ol' beating is what he deserve and that's what he got.jointed

Socialism is both an economic theory and a social ideology. And sure, you can say that I'm part of that collective, but that's just horsecrap because in the end, it will turn out like all the other failed socialist states we've seen....large government and little individual say.jointed

And what you described was socialist/communist authoritarianism. It doesn't matter though - no socialist state as far as I'm conerned has went any other way because they start out as socialist authoritarians and end as socialist authoritarians.

Wow scary thinking going on in this thread here. So apparently people think cops should be above the law and have every right to beat on unconcious people? Are you ******* kidding me?

The whole purpose of cops is to capture offenders so they can get their trial. They are in no way responsible for dealing ouy any of the punishments and have no right to do so. Even in cases where peoples lives are endangered by a gunman they are suppossed to try and simply incapacitate the subject rather than straight up kill them, granted thats an instance where their killing a suspect can actually be justified.

The cops where way out of line and to see a group of people running up and hitting an unconcious body like that is disgusting. They should have been getting an ambulance on the scene so the suspect could be treated and then brought to justice IN COURT, simple as that.

And yeah, if you cannot keep your cool in situations like that you shouldn't be a cop, end of story. Those guys are liable to get someone killed with their inability to keep a level head.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Famiking"] Communism is the social ideology, socialism is the economic one. And what you described was socialist/communist authoritarianism. It doesn't matter though - no socialist state as far as I'm conerned because they start out as socialist authoritarians and end as socialist authoritarians.Famiking

[QUOTE="11Marcel"]

The whole point of having cops is that they enforce such a behaviour that instead of being judged by emotional human beings, people are judged by courts. One of the things a cop should always do is keep a cool head, and behave professionally. All that crap about "they're just human" doesn't really make sense, because if every cop was "just human" every cop would be corrupt too. Cops should have some kind of barrier to stop them from this kind of behaviour. What if the man in the car would've been alive if the cops didn't beat him up, but the beating did the last bit?

There's a difference between being a robot and behaving professionally, and beating up a severely injured man lying on the ground because he hit one of your colleagues. If policemen can't keep their cool in such situations, then they either need more training or aren't fit to be policemen.

AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="11Marcel"]

The whole point of having cops is that they enforce such a behaviour that instead of being judged by emotional human beings, people are judged by courts. One of the things a cop should always do is keep a cool head, and behave professionally. All that crap about "they're just human" doesn't really make sense, because if every cop was "just human" every cop would be corrupt too. Cops should have some kind of barrier to stop them from this kind of behaviour. What if the man in the car would've been alive if the cops didn't beat him up, but the beating did the last bit?

There's a difference between being a robot and behaving professionally, and beating up a severely injured man lying on the ground because he hit one of your colleagues. If policemen can't keep their cool in such situations, then they either need more training or aren't fit to be policemen.

xxDustmanxx

AAllxxjjnn...

Sure, what they did seemed justified, as the criminal put many lives at risk but...those cops were being unprofessional. They weren't doing their job the way they were supposed to. Your tax dollars funded those cops to act unprofessionally and you're supporting it. The minute we consider what they did acceptable, more problems will arise.

That **** tried to run down a cop, if I was one of those officers and that cop he tried to run down was my friend I would bea the crap out of him also. No sympahty here he got what he deserved and I hope he sustained permenant damage.

I'm sad the cops were fired. I'm from North Alabama myself, and that guy hit a cop with his van. He obviously didn't care for anyone else's life, why should the cops hesitate to send a message to that person?fatzebra

Lol at the people saying the cops should get medals, some people refuse to accept that there are bad cops that do bad things.

Beating a guy who was probably dying from head trauma classifies as a bad thing, this isn't Judge Dredd.

this isn't Judge Dredd.

Ace_WondersX

I typically side with the Police on brutality issues like this, but the scumbag was laying face-down and motionless on the pavement. He wasn't trying to run away. The scumbag was down & out.

The cops deserved to get suspended. They went over the line. Had the criminal been trying to run away or something, then I'd think the cops did a great job.

As i said before, i don't really feel sympathy for the guy. He almost hit a cop and was putting everyone else's lives on that road in danger.AAllxxjjnn

The cops deserved to get suspended.

LosDaddie

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

this isn't Judge Dredd.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

The cops deserved to get suspended.

Jandurin

Yup. Maybe a couple weeks suspensionwith a pay cut or something like that.

I don't feel any sympathy for the scumbag criminal, but the police did go over the line.

Nice to see this thread get back on track.

I have a question for some of you. Why do some of you feel these cops shouldn't have been fired. They acted totally unprofessionaly, and went WAY beyond resonable mesures. Not to mention they commited a crime. I personally thought they should've been criminally charged.

If cops can't remain objective and dispassionate in a tense situation like this, then they shouldn't be cops.

Billy clubbing an unconscious guy regardless of what he might have done is despicable.