Police Search Cell Phones During Routine Traffic Stops

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#101 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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That seems a little excessive.

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#102 Oleg_Huzwog
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Let's play devil's advocate.

Why shouldn't it be legal to... say... find evidence that a text was sent by the driver while driving? How is that different than administering a field sobriety test?

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#103 TBoogy
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Let's play devil's advocate.

Why shouldn't it be legal to... say... find evidence that a text was sent by the driver while driving? How is that different than administering a field sobriety test?

Oleg_Huzwog
Then make the device detect the last time a call or text came through, not the full content of every file on the phone. Like most things in life, people are willing to bend for the greater good. But the powers that be need to know where to draw the line.
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#104 mrbojangles25
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Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.

Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.

I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.

Buttons1990

lol I suppose you have never heard of a slippery slope?

what about the concept of the government and law serving its people, instead of harassing them?

For a flag-waving nationalist, you sure are anti-American

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#105 StealthMonkey4
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Just delete your messages and phone calls, they're not going to waste resources looking through deleted texts and phone calls just for a routine traffic stop unless they have extreme suspicion.

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#106 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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very illeagal. hope they get a stop to that.

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#107 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]2) Teenage idiots who have nude pics of their also teenage boy or girlfriend (child porn)MushroomWig
Oh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xD

Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...

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#108 foxhound_fox
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Really? So what about in a situation where you need the information to save someones life?

"Quick, use the device so we can get the address to where little Jimmy is being held!"

"We can't.....foxhound_fox doesn't want us to use it"

"...damn."

You killed little Jimmy, I hope you're happy!

MushroomWig


Hey, I was refering to using these as random searches. Your question is entirely out of context.

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#109 dave123321
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="Buttons1990"]2) Teenage idiots who have nude pics of their also teenage boy or girlfriend (child porn)StealthMonkey4

Oh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xD

Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...

You should make a new thread on this.I would like to see more opinions on this subject. Would make a new thread but then I would feel an obligation on being an active participant , which I never like to do.
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#110 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Oh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xDdave123321

Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...

You should make a new thread on this.I would like to see more opinions on this subject. Would make a new thread but then I would feel an obligation on being an active participant , which I never like to do.

I agree. It would make for an intresting thread. But i dont think the mods would allow it.

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#111 Stesilaus
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The question that hasn't been asked yet is why all the cellphone manufacturers and cellphone service providers have signed up to make their devices and networks compatible with these intrusive devices.

What's in it for them? :?

Are they legally required to make their devices / networks open to the police / government?

In what other respects do major corporations work hand-in-glove with the government? I've read rumours to the effect that Apple and Microsoft have intentionally left "back doors" in their OSes and given the FBI the wherewithal to exploit them. Frankly, after reading this thread, I'm inclined to believe those rumours.

:(

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#112 majoras_wrath
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I'm hardly one of the paranoid, fear the government types, but that is most certainly a violation of our basic rights. I'm also disturbed by the people who are saying that only people with something to hide are bothered by this, as that only encourages the further encroachment on our civil liberties.
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#113 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="MarineXXII"]

[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.

Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.

I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.

Agreed. I also hate how people think the police are out to F them. I cant tell you how many times ive been pulled over for speeding or doing something wrong and just by simply being nice, honest, and polite to the officer he/she would let me go scott free.

I keep my nose quite clean, but I have definitely had a police officer try to screw with me. If I hadn't had witnesses willing to go to bat for me, I'm rather confident he would have charged me.

Just like people in other professions, some are nice people with integrity and others are power tripping windbags.
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#114 rcignoni
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That's pretty unreasonable.
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#115 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.MushroomWig


O_O

Not something anyone should be capable of wielding. Ever.

This goes beyond "invasion of privacy."

Really? So what about in a situation where you need the information to save someones life?

"Quick, use the device so we can get the address to where little Jimmy is being held!"

"We can't.....foxhound_fox doesn't want us to use it"

"...damn."

You killed little Jimmy, I hope you're happy!

That would be a case where the police have probable cause and can thus issue a search. If they didn't have probable cause but had evidence to suggest the guy had the kid and the phone held the location then a court would issue a warrant. We're talking about random searches where there's no reason to believe a person has done anything wrong. Your argument completely fails to address the issue at hand.

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#116 Empirefrtw
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All they would see is my lack of life XD.
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#117 GabuEx
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Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.

Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.

I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.

Buttons1990

I find it odd that, in support of something that violates the Constitution, you're telling people they shouldn't break the law.

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#118 Poncho_Hachacha
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[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.

Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.

I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.

MarineXXII

Agreed. I also hate how people think the police are out to F them. I cant tell you how many times ive been pulled over for speeding or doing something wrong and just by simply being nice, honest, and polite to the officer he/she would let me go scott free.

Converesly, I can count a few times I've been pulled over for nothing. Or even worse, lied to by the police to try and get information off of me. There'smore thanone side to the issue. Only looking at it from your own position and experiences is pretty closed minded. Either way, this information seems,if nothing else,invasive. And not informing drivers that the information will be gathered is ethically wrong if not a constitutional violation, hypothetically speaking.

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#119 chrisrooR
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That's ridiculous. I really hope this never happens in Canada.
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#120 Poncho_Hachacha
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I wonder if taking your sim card and memory devices out can prevent the data from being read.

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#121 JustPlainLucas
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Like the glove compartment and trunk, they'll need to a warrant to search that. They have no business anyway.