That seems a little excessive.
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Let's play devil's advocate.
Why shouldn't it be legal to... say... find evidence that a text was sent by the driver while driving? How is that different than administering a field sobriety test?
Then make the device detect the last time a call or text came through, not the full content of every file on the phone. Like most things in life, people are willing to bend for the greater good. But the powers that be need to know where to draw the line.Let's play devil's advocate.
Why shouldn't it be legal to... say... find evidence that a text was sent by the driver while driving? How is that different than administering a field sobriety test?
Oleg_Huzwog
Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.
Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.
I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.
Buttons1990
lol I suppose you have never heard of a slippery slope?
what about the concept of the government and law serving its people, instead of harassing them?
For a flag-waving nationalist, you sure are anti-American
Just delete your messages and phone calls, they're not going to waste resources looking through deleted texts and phone calls just for a routine traffic stop unless they have extreme suspicion.
[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]2) Teenage idiots who have nude pics of their also teenage boy or girlfriend (child porn)MushroomWigOh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xD
Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...
Really? So what about in a situation where you need the information to save someones life?"Quick, use the device so we can get the address to where little Jimmy is being held!"
"We can't.....foxhound_fox doesn't want us to use it"
"...damn."
You killed little Jimmy, I hope you're happy!
MushroomWig
Oh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xD[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="Buttons1990"]2) Teenage idiots who have nude pics of their also teenage boy or girlfriend (child porn)StealthMonkey4
Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...
You should make a new thread on this.I would like to see more opinions on this subject. Would make a new thread but then I would feel an obligation on being an active participant , which I never like to do.[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Oh you've got to be kidding me, how the hell can it be considered child porn if you're not even considered an adult? Talk about grasping at straws. xD xDdave123321
Child porn is child porn regardless of who is viewing it...
You should make a new thread on this.I would like to see more opinions on this subject. Would make a new thread but then I would feel an obligation on being an active participant , which I never like to do.I agree. It would make for an intresting thread. But i dont think the mods would allow it.
The question that hasn't been asked yet is why all the cellphone manufacturers and cellphone service providers have signed up to make their devices and networks compatible with these intrusive devices.
What's in it for them? :?
Are they legally required to make their devices / networks open to the police / government?
In what other respects do major corporations work hand-in-glove with the government? I've read rumours to the effect that Apple and Microsoft have intentionally left "back doors" in their OSes and given the FBI the wherewithal to exploit them. Frankly, after reading this thread, I'm inclined to believe those rumours.
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[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]
Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.
Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.
I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.
Agreed. I also hate how people think the police are out to F them. I cant tell you how many times ive been pulled over for speeding or doing something wrong and just by simply being nice, honest, and polite to the officer he/she would let me go scott free.
I keep my nose quite clean, but I have definitely had a police officer try to screw with me. If I hadn't had witnesses willing to go to bat for me, I'm rather confident he would have charged me.Just like people in other professions, some are nice people with integrity and others are power tripping windbags.[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections.MushroomWig
"Quick, use the device so we can get the address to where little Jimmy is being held!"
"We can't.....foxhound_fox doesn't want us to use it"
"...damn."
You killed little Jimmy, I hope you're happy!
That would be a case where the police have probable cause and can thus issue a search. If they didn't have probable cause but had evidence to suggest the guy had the kid and the phone held the location then a court would issue a warrant. We're talking about random searches where there's no reason to believe a person has done anything wrong. Your argument completely fails to address the issue at hand.Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.
Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.
I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.
Buttons1990
I find it odd that, in support of something that violates the Constitution, you're telling people they shouldn't break the law.
[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]
Don't have illegal **** on your phone, problem solved.
Or better yet, don't break the law, problem solved before you ever even encounter police.
I love when everyone is up in arms about things the police do... You don't like it, move to Mexico, gtfo out of our country then.
MarineXXII
Agreed. I also hate how people think the police are out to F them. I cant tell you how many times ive been pulled over for speeding or doing something wrong and just by simply being nice, honest, and polite to the officer he/she would let me go scott free.
Converesly, I can count a few times I've been pulled over for nothing. Or even worse, lied to by the police to try and get information off of me. There'smore thanone side to the issue. Only looking at it from your own position and experiences is pretty closed minded. Either way, this information seems,if nothing else,invasive. And not informing drivers that the information will be gathered is ethically wrong if not a constitutional violation, hypothetically speaking.
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