Poll: Do you think joining the military is dumb?

More often than not, I run into some chump that joined the Army because "they pay for school".  I mean, do they even really understand what they are saying?  They are signing their life and rights over to the government and put in the line of fire for four years and IF they survive, HOORAY!!  FREE SCHOOL!! 

I had a friend join the reserves because he got "a free $20k" enlistment bonus.  Well, guess where he is now?  You can hardly call roaming around Iraq, getting shot at and smelling dead bodies, "free".

No...it may be dumb to you...but it's probably not dumb to them. See how opinions work?FragStains

No...it may be dumb to you...but it's probably not dumb to them. See how opinions work?FragStains

Its there choice,plus this isnt a poll,and i dont like hippiesmattmaul5488

LOL!!!  Agreed.  :lol:

Hippies suck.

Where is the poll? Anyway, as of right now, yes. I would never join when a moron like Bush and his little people are in charge. daniel52587

Face it, you wouldn't join no matter who was in office.

[QUOTE="daniel52587"]Where is the poll? Anyway, as of right now, yes. I would never join when a moron like Bush and his little people are in charge. greeneye59

Face it, you wouldn't join no matter who was in office.

I didn't use an actual poll because 1: I don't think I can; and 2: I was looking for more of a discussion, rather than a "click here" topic.Super_Hippie

It's not a joke account. I am a hippie and there's nothing wrong with it. It's better than being a cronie to the government, that's for sure.Super_Hippie

More often than not, I run into some chump that joined the Army because "they pay for school". I mean, do they even really understand what they are saying? They are signing their life and rights over to the government and put in the line of fire for four years and IF they survive, HOORAY!! FREE SCHOOL!!

I had a friend join the reserves because he got "a free $20k" enlistment bonus. Well, guess where he is now? You can hardly call roaming around Iraq, getting shot at and smelling dead bodies, "free".

Super_Hippie

If you're a hippy, why do you have a PC?

It's not a joke account. I am a hippie and there's nothing wrong with it. It's better than being a cronie to the government, that's for sure.Super_Hippie

Hippie is short for hypocrisy.  Look at all the hippies from the 60's - they're now working for heartless corporations and running those same companies.  Way to go.

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining.  I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb.  Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life.  But, let's face it...  The majority is, "Ah-hyuck!  Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists.  YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about.  You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here.  It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

My husband joined because it was a life long dream of his to be in the service in some way shape or form. His dad was in WW2 and he just really looks up to him. That is what spurred his interest in it. Hes pretty darn smart when it comes to military history too - hes done his homework (probably the only subject in school he paid attention in) for sure. He joined last year knowing full well what was going on and knowing he was going to be in a 'hot zone' of some sort for at least a year, mandatory. We guessed Iraq. We were right. He joined cause he has the balls to. It takes balls to serve - no matter what branch you join. He might not agree with the situation in Iraq, but he does believe in the war on terror...he was hoping to go to Afghanistan actually. Hes got the balls to stand up and protect people like you who say having a military is dumb.

Let me put things this way. If no one joined, and we had no military at all, the countries that DO have militaries would definatly come take us over cause we dont have anyone to protect us.

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining.  I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb.  Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life.  But, let's face it...  The majority is, "Ah-hyuck!  Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists.  YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about.  You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here.  It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

Super_Hippie

Now you're just being ignorant.  You are making assumptions behind the motivations of other people.  How do you know what reasons they joined?

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining.  I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb.  Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life.  But, let's face it...  The majority is, "Ah-hyuck!  Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists.  YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about.  You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here.  It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

Super_Hippie

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining. I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb. Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life. But, let's face it... The majority is, "Ah-hyuck! Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists. YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about. You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here. It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

Super_Hippie

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining.  I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb.  Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life.  But, let's face it...  The majority is, "Ah-hyuck!  Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists.  YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about.  You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here.  It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

Super_Hippie

I've got balls, but I don't need to prove it by putting myself in a situation to die for no good reason. If I'm going to put my life in danger, it's because my loved ones are in danger. And please don't use the blanket statement that "because their over there, you're loved ones aren't in danger." Military should be used for defense. Not "liberating" countries that never asked for help in the first place.Super_Hippie

[QUOTE="Super_Hippie"]

I'm not trying to say that we should prevent people from joining.  I'm just asking the question as to whether or not the reasonings behind which are dumb.  Sure, there's the select few that join for the right reasons, pass OCS, and never see the front line in their whole life.  But, let's face it...  The majority is, "Ah-hyuck!  Gimme dems free money and ill go shoot sum terrorists.  YAAAHOOOO!!!!! ::shoots his revolvers in the air::"

And of the people that have joined and are already out, of course you've got nothing to complain about.  You weren't getting sent over to Iraq under some facade that it's actually helping to prevent them from coming over here.  It's a blood-money war, and I for one, will not sell myself into it for a $30k tuition carrot on a stick.

LJS9502_basic

He's just trolling now.  His last post about military recruits being so dumb that they can't find a job elsewhere - just plain ignorant.

My husband joined because it was a life long dream of his to be in the service in some way shape or form. His dad was in WW2 and he just really looks up to him. That is what spurred his interest in it. Hes pretty darn smart when it comes to military history too - hes done his homework (probably the only subject in school he paid attention in) for sure. He joined last year knowing full well what was going on and knowing he was going to be in a 'hot zone' of some sort for at least a year, mandatory. We guessed Iraq. We were right. He joined cause he has the balls to. It takes balls to serve - no matter what branch you join. He might not agree with the situation in Iraq, but he does believe in the war on terror...he was hoping to go to Afghanistan actually. Hes got the balls to stand up and protect people like you who say having a military is dumb.

Let me put things this way. If no one joined, and we had no military at all, the countries that DO have militaries would definatly come take us over cause we dont have anyone to protect us.

xhellcatx

Well.....while I haven't anything to say about your family in service besides thanks...

The reason why I won't be joining a military in this lifetime is because I see too much that's going on in terms of business. If I were in a position where I had the choice to surrender and be taken over or fight and be eviscerated...I'd choose to fight. What kind of life would that be? Nothing at all, I say.

Clinton decreased the military workforce and increased our technological department's influence (more missiles, less soldiers=less causualties on America's 'side.') Bush did the opposite as soon as he got in office. Of course, the only thing to back my claim is with my word and a bunch of links....and we all know what credibility is over the internet with relative strangers. :roll:

The guy who made this topic has some serious mind opening that needs to happen...... anyways....

The point is...they're many reasons why people choose to join and choose not to join. You guys shouldn't make it out to be so 'black and white. Even if it's not the intention, the point was made.

Facts please? Link to study? There's no way that anyone would belive that. You gotta be smart to be an officer, but most people join the Army because they are so stupid they can get a job anywhere else.Super_Hippie

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the reason that john kerry was so criticized with his recent dumb military comments was that military people tend to be smarter than the average citizen.
Super_Hippie

Fighting our "war" in someone else's country is supposed to be an admirable thing?  I'm supposed to give props to the chain of command because they happen to be the shistiest war mongerers in the history of our country?  I don't think so.  You wont hear me cheering that on.

Also, don't get offended at my majority statements.  If you don't agree or fall into that category, then why not just agree and take pride that you happen to be the minority of the statement?

Congrats hippie,you sparked controversy...mattmaul5488