Porn star says violent videogames is worse than porn.

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#51 Mellosinferno
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="cornholio157"]

this is blasphemy, this is madness!

this is SPARTAAAAA!!!

Anyway, both are as dangerous as the other, especially on an unstable/weak mind.

On a dumb child it is but they banned R18+ games in Australia because of that reason.
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#52 MugiwaraNo
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No, DRUGS are the worst! Neither sex nor violence is just a lil thing. Video game violence is a fantasy, unless some ****ing kids imitate it, it depends on the person playing or watching porn. Its their life.

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#53 Treflis
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I actually think he has a point, granted neither are intended for children but observing/participating in Violence is worse then observing a sexual intercourse.
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#54 Flamecommando
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this is blasphemy, this is madness!

cornholio157

Yes it is.. =-)

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#55 hiphops_savior
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The answer, both are just as bad as another. They're also going to be around as long as human nature is still a factor.
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#56 Mellosinferno
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I actually think he has a point, granted neither are intended for children but observing/participating in Violence is worse then observing a sexual intercourse.Treflis
Sex is worse than violence imo.
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#57 OrkHammer007
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Violent video games taught me that if I shoot at people, they will shoot back.

Adult videos taught me that if I show up at a strange woman's house wearing a repairman's outfit, she will jump out of her clothes and into the sack with me.

Which sounds like a more useful lesson to learn? ;)

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#58 Mellosinferno
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[QUOTE="Treflis"]I actually think he has a point, granted neither are intended for children but observing/participating in Violence is worse then observing a sexual intercourse.Mellosinferno
Sex is worse than violence imo.

Like for example you get a girl pregnant and stuff up her life.
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#59 deactivated-5d3f5f1ece8fb
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Porn is 100 times worse. Especially for a young devoloping mind.

Porn and violent video games aren't even in the same ball park.

Of course, violent video games aren't the greatest thing, but c'mon.

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#60 thusaha
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She's wrong.
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#61 Nkemjo
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Well now you have to ask yourself, is it the way are children are exposed to these mediums at such a young age or is the unwillingness of parents or guardians to properly educate their children on these subjects before they can become a real issue to the child. In all honesty most people in here have been talking about a 12 year old child. That child will most likely be undergoing puberty and such things as sexual intercourse and sexuality should at least have been discussed with their parents already. I have 4 other siblings and we were all well educated on this when the right time came for each of us, I think some parents are failing to explain these things due to awkwardness or other factors. Children seek these things out because it is natural to want to learn.

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#62 Snipes_2
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this is blasphemy, this is madness!

cornholio157

I agree! Pr0n will always be more obscene, offensive, and essentially worse for your kids than any videogame. Teen PRegnancy rates are apparently going down (Contraception...), the United States still has the highest Teen Pregnancy Rate in the West.

Every year around 750,000 teenagers will get pregnant.
Depending on the state, teenage birth rates are incredibly different. Nevada has the highest rate: 113 per 1000 and North Dakota the lowest 42 per 1000.
Unmarried teenagers having children account for 24 percent of all unmarried expectant mothers.
More than 2/3 of all teenagers who have a baby will not graduate from high school.
Billions of dollars are spent taking care of teenage mothers and their children and they are more likely to be in the poverty bracket. On the flip side, millions of dollars are spent in prevention programs. The United States has the highest rates of teenage pregnancy and births in the western industrialized world. Teen pregnancy costs the United States at least $7 billion annually. Keep reading for more interesting facts on teen pregnancy statistics.

The fact that just under 1/3 of all girls in the United States will get pregnant in their teenage years is a sobering thought. Obviously, teen pregnancy is a problem in the United States.

http://www.pregnantteenhelp.org/articles1.html

Teen mothers are less likely to complete high school (only one-third receive a high school diploma) and only 1.5% have a college degree by age 30. Teen mothers are more likely to end up on welfare (nearly 80 percent of unmarried teen mothers end up on welfare). The sons of teen mothers are 13 percent more likely to end up in prison while teen daughters are 22 percent more likely to become teen mothers themselves.

http://www.familyfirstaid.org/teen-pregnancy.html

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#63 Omni-Slash
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I'd say both of them can be just as bad to a developing child....just in different ways...
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#64 Snipes_2
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I'd say both of them can be just as bad to a developing child....just in different ways...Omni-Slash

Yeah, You're probably right. Seeing as you're a parent :P

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#65 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'd say both of them can be just as bad to a developing child....just in different ways...Snipes_2

Yeah, You're probably right. Seeing as you're a parent :P

lol...it really doesn't make me an authority....that being said...most things are innate....it's when kids take in all these things without the proper knowledge and instruction thast gets you into trouble....no kid is going to go out and shoot up a school after playing a game unless he/she is so far detached from the real world....and if that is the case....it's obvious the parents have ****ed up by that point....same can be said with sex and porn....if a parent hasn'ttalked to a child about sex...watching porn can really screw up a kid in regards to teaching them how to be intimate...
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#66 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'd say both of them can be just as bad to a developing child....just in different ways...Omni-Slash

Yeah, You're probably right. Seeing as you're a parent :P

lol...it really doesn't make me an authority....that being said...most things are innate....it's when kids take in all these things without the proper knowledge and instruction thast gets you into trouble....no kid is going to go out and shoot up a school after playing a game unless he/she is so far detached from the real world....and if that is the case....it's obvious the parents have ****ed up by that point....same can be said with sex and porn....if a parent hasn'ttalked to a child about sex...watching porn can really screw up a kid in regards to teaching them how to be intimate...

Yeah, But usually when you're a parent you know a lot more about what will affect kids than someone like myslef ( 18, no kids, not married etc..):P

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#67 p00zer
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The nature of sex vs The nature of violence Interesting.. all together I think violence creates more problem for the human species.. than sex does. Porn Star wins.. from my perspective. Though both actions are inherently part of human nature. But yes.. video games do influence people.. anyone who denies this.. might as well tell the people spending trillions of dollars on global advertising.. that they're wasting their money. But, they'd probably laugh at you.EMOEVOLUTION
This. Never saw what was so horrible about sex :?.

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#68 racing1750
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i lol'd for some reason :lol:
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#69 CommanderShiro
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She's wrong.thusaha
Its a male porn star criticizing video games.

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#70 Espada12
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I loled... I'm sure he is really unbiased in this subject.. I'm really sure. You would think that he would be more understanding when it came to these things due to his industry getting flak all the time for *messing up the kids* nope.. instead he points the blame toward video games :lol:

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#71 Witchsight
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She's wrong.thusaha
Whos she?
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[QUOTE="3DayFinisher"][QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .trialedbyfire
Last I read, having sex makes babies.

watching porn does not make babies. also im sure even at age 12 most kids know what a condom is and what to do with it .

12 year olds?? thats sick dude.

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[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .

Porn is 100% BS. For a young one, it gives them this false sense of what love is and what they see is whats meant to be. Outside of a 12yr old, you have men and woman that become addicted. Some even lose jobs and their real partners because of the addiction. Porn is unhealthy to the mind if you cant breakaway.
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#74 Nkemjo
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[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"][QUOTE="3DayFinisher"] Last I read, having sex makes babies.hodges_3_5

watching porn does not make babies. also im sure even at age 12 most kids know what a condom is and what to do with it .

12 year olds?? thats sick dude.

Maybe in America it's sick but here where I live we are all given proper sex education as we go into highschool. At 12 years old you will be undergoing or just about to start puberty, you should know what these things are. Why is it so sick?

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#75 tocklestein2005
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Ron Jeremy?! LOL!!!!

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#76 starfox15
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Oh a porno actress thinks supporting her own industry over the video game industry is a good idea. I can't imagine why...

Of course she's going to say that. Why would she want people spending money on video games over the porn industry? Not only that, but what on earth qualifies her to say such a thing in the first place?

Rage rage rage rage...

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#77 Lockedge
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Videogames can easily be as harmful as pornography, for sure. Is there really anyone debating that? Sex and violence are two natural aspects of humanity, and both are accepted in western culture to differing degrees...but that doesn't mean that one is better/worse than the other. Personally, I find sex less offensive than excess violence, but it all comes down to the context of the situation.
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#78 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .

Porn is 100% BS. For a young one, it gives them this false sense of what love is and what they see is whats meant to be. Outside of a 12yr old, you have men and woman that become addicted. Some even lose jobs and their real partners because of the addiction. Porn is unhealthy to the mind if you cant breakaway.

Porn can be unhealthy, of course. The important part here is parenting. The the parents can place porn in context for their kids, it should never be an issue. Much like violence. Proper parenting solves both downsides to a certain degree.
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I think it's always important to get Ron Jeremy's opinions on public policy issues
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#80 RichardStallman
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I think they're about the same.
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#81 wstfld
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I love video game violence. I love porn. Both shaped me during childhood into what I am today. Although when I was growing up, everything was a little more mild. My friends and I were downloading playboy pictures at 1200 BPS, not streaming 40 minute HD Farm Animals & Midgets. We also weren't killing hookers in an open world environment, but ripping out pixelated spines in 16-bits.

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#82 krunkmastax
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I think they're about the same.RichardStallman
Agreed. At least thats my take on it.
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Ron Jeremy?! LOL!!!!

tocklestein2005

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I'm hornier than Ron Jeremy"

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sorry, I had to

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It seems that mostkids realize that violence is a bad thing, if they were taught properly. Letting my kid see i.e, a bloodydecapitation would appear more as a "gross" thing rather than a scaryexample of killing (or worse yet, a genuine way to kill someone in real life).

Explicit sex scenes, on the other hand, aren'tpretty and and in some ways, are even more disgusting to the child. But unlike violence, sex actually lookslike the two people are having fun.When someone explains that scene (and therefore talks a littleabout sex), the child becomes curious. Unlike like a gory and violent decapitation, the child would think that sex doesn't hurt people (since they're just "having fun"). You may think that only a naive child would think like that, but deep down, children are very curious.

I'll give you a real life example: I once knew a 11-year-old boy who was exposed tonear constant nudity due his mom and dad walking around the house naked. Now, that wasn't really porn, but once I got to know him more, I found that he was incredibly immodest, and he often shared some pretty explicit sex jokes (at least they weren't good for a little kid). But worst of all, he actually flashed at people for fun.I guess it's not that great of an example, but it shows me how enoughexposure to nudity and sexuality can really be detrimental to a child.It'sway worse than violence will ever be.

That said, I wouldn't want my kids to see either violence or sexualityin movies, games, ect.

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#85 Big_Bad_Sad
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Well, hes not wrong. I like both just as much.
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[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .Tjeremiah1988
Porn is 100% BS. For a young one, it gives them this false sense of what love is and what they see is whats meant to be. Outside of a 12yr old, you have men and woman that become addicted. Some even lose jobs and their real partners because of the addiction. Porn is unhealthy to the mind if you cant breakaway.

yeah, trialed by fire, wtf? you cant say videogames or porn are educational in a good sense.

and its not like porn teaches people how to have sex. it has serious long term affects on the mindset, and affects the approach of how to treat the act of sex, and more importantly (the reason why i gave it up) how to treat women!

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tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .trialedbyfire

Gets a fetish, witch in turn when not satisfied can get the guy to commit rape?

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[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .chaplainDMK

Gets a fetish, witch in turn when not satisfied can get the guy to commit rape?

Porn leads to rape? While rape statistics are far too high, I don't think that they are nearly high enough to support that causal link, especially since rape is a crime of violence and power, not sex. The attitudes toward women I've sometimes seen expressed here on OT seem a stronger contributing factor.
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tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .trialedbyfire
They'll learn something alright. Enough to make them curious, and if they're curious enough, they may try to do the same thing one way or another. Besides, did you consider that the child may be confused and scared by such a sight? Most violent video games are incredibly unrealistic in their depiction of killing people. If a child's parents taught correctly, the child would think that violence is a bad thing (and it is, in most cases). Kids want to avoid things that they think are bad. Kids will be curious about things that aren't bad (in their opinion) such as sex, because they both seem to be having fun, or that it doesn't hurt anyone (unless it's a rape scene). Porn and violence don't teach you anything useful. And violence doesn't teach you how to fight/kill someone.
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .xaos

Gets a fetish, witch in turn when not satisfied can get the guy to commit rape?

Porn leads to rape? While rape statistics are far too high, I don't think that they are nearly high enough to support that causal link, especially since rape is a crime of violence and power, not sex. The attitudes toward women I've sometimes seen expressed here on OT seem a stronger contributing factor.

I mean that when he is young you could just have a guy develop a fetish trough watching porn... And if he is already an agresive personality you could end up with him raping someone to fulfull his disire

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The nature of sex vs The nature of violence Interesting.. all together I think violence creates more problem for the human species.. than sex does. Porn Star wins.. from my perspective. Though both actions are inherently part of human nature. But yes.. video games do influence people.. anyone who denies this.. might as well tell the people spending trillions of dollars on global advertising.. that they're wasting their money. But, they'd probably laugh at you.EMOEVOLUTION

It can be argued that the vast majority of violence comes from sexual base.. Throughout history war has been waged all about who the alpha male is, which is predominately a sexual natured goal.. That being said they are two different things, and cannot be compared.. Neither are harmful what so ever, in my opinion to a regular person.. If anything the more repressive and conservative (the inability to change) the more violent the culture is.. Not the other way around..

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#92 Franklinstein
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Well, of course he said that, if I were in the gun industry I'd probably try to argue that video games are more harmful than guns, but that's just propaganda. Video games are only harmful if your mind is easily corruptable(young kids) which is why those games are only for 17 and up.

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#93 D_Battery
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I personally dislike pornography - it turns women into sex objects. Having said that, I've never been more disgusted than after having played CoD World at War; I watched my friend delight in the simulation of a war that my grandfather wouldn't speak of to his death. Ultimately, it does come down to a case by case basis, but I nonetheless find it difficult to justify calling pornography (except perhaps the vilest sort) more morally objectionable than the trivialization of a real war.
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#94 icorkmybat
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Out of those two, it is MUCH easier to confuse pornography with reality.

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#95 worthyofnote
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Shooting at virtual computer characters vs hardcore extreme pornography. I'd say beastiality is far worse than a frag follwed with complimentary a tea-bag and phrases such as "PWNed!"

I'm pretty sure Mr. Jeremy doesn't have any degrees in psychology or sociology. Ironic a pornstar, an international icon known for his endowments and exploits, would speak out against video games.

Casual sex on multiple films versus playing violent video games....hmmm.... I'd say porn can be far more dentrimental. Sure, both have a way of influencing people as both can be interactive visual stimulants.

And it's not always the industries' fault. It's the parents that allow their children to posess and interact with such material, and the people who place the blame and pass the buck instead of accepting responsibility themselves, as well as those individuals who can't discern the difference between reality and artificial entertainment.

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#96 Nkemjo
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[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"]tell me. what harmful effect can porn have on someone? so a 12 year old sees someone have sex. some **** and pubic area's. worst thatll happen is that they will learn something. what is the worst thing a 12 year old can learn from playing a violent video game?.. just how to kill someone in multiple ways. how to have sex vs how to kill someone. i think she has a point .xaos

Gets a fetish, witch in turn when not satisfied can get the guy to commit rape?

Porn leads to rape? While rape statistics are far too high, I don't think that they are nearly high enough to support that causal link, especially since rape is a crime of violence and power, not sex. The attitudes toward women I've sometimes seen expressed here on OT seem a stronger contributing factor.

I'll have to agree with you there xaos just how everyone immediately thought the porn star was female, all these semi-jokes about women, some even seem to express a fear/alienated view towards women as if they are not human themselves. (Not everyone now just some)

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I personally dislike pornography - it turns women into sex objects.D_Battery
Gay porn avoids that issue ^_^
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[QUOTE="D_Battery"]I personally dislike pornography - it turns women into sex objects.xaos
Gay porn avoids that issue ^_^

lol

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Isn't the porno industry rife with people withHIV AIDS and other disases? I don't remeber anyone of going to adoctor for gential herpes from playing too much Halo 3.

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Isn't the porno industry rife with people withHIV AIDS and other disases? I don't remeber anyone of going to adoctor for gential herpes from playing too much Halo 3.

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Pretty much all porn studios require STD and HIV testing far more frequently than the general public does; once per month is not uncommon. Also, at least in gay porn, the majority of it uses condoms.