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The Hedgehog is a certifiable attention, and regular, whore. I love the guy, but he will do anything for the spotlight. This is just another stunt
Sonic is the male porn star bashing video games? Geez, I guess all the bashing Sonic has gotten from his recent 3d games has finally gotten to the hedgehog. :(The Hedgehog is a certifiable attention, and regular, whore. I love the guy, but he will do anything for the spotlight. This is just another stunt
mrbojangles25
[QUOTE="xaos"]I think it's always important to get Ron Jeremy's opinions on public policy issuesRavirr
Whew, thought I was the only one...
for some reason he reminds me of The Critic. Keep expecting him to turn to the camera and go "It stinks!"
"So, mr Jeremy, what do you think of healthcare reform?"
"Iiiit stinks!"
I think it is very likely that one is worse than the other. Both porn and violent video games are awesome, so her point is moot >_>
[QUOTE="Ravirr"]
[QUOTE="xaos"]I think it's always important to get Ron Jeremy's opinions on public policy issuesmrbojangles25
Whew, thought I was the only one...
for some reason he reminds me of The Critic. Keep expecting him to turn to the camera and go "It stinks!"
"So, mr Jeremy, what do you think of healthcare reform?"
"Iiiit stinks!"
His.I think it is very likely that one is worse than the other. Both porn and violent video games are awesome, so her point is moot >_>
KungfuKitten
I kinda agree actually. as long as its normal pron no offense to people that pratice s&m but as long as its not that I think pron would be less harmful especially for say a 12 year old considering most of us probably saw our first porno around that age anyway. but I dont think games have a negative effect on kids as much as some people say they do. personally I think kids who kill then blame it on the game are just looking for an excuse to take less of the blame or they really are just messed up
Well, from my experience, I don't personally know anyone who assaulted or killed anyone because he played a videogame. I do however know people who've commited adultery because they watched porn. Food for thought.
How are you establishing the causal relationship between "watching porn" and "committing adultery"? The methodology for this must be fascinatingWell, from my experience, I don't personally know anyone who assaulted or killed anyone because he played a videogame. I do however know people who've commited adultery because they watched porn. Food for thought.
Laserwolf65
Well, from my experience, I don't personally know anyone who assaulted or killed anyone because he played a videogame. I do however know people who've commited adultery because they watched porn. Food for thought.
How are you establishing the causal relationship between "watching porn" and "committing adultery"? The methodology for this must be fascinating Because when he told me the story he told me so. He said that he wished that he had never started watching it because it led him to cheating on his wife. His words--not mine.Well, from my experience, I don't personally know anyone who assaulted or killed anyone because he played a videogame. I do however know people who've commited adultery because they watched porn. Food for thought.
How are you establishing the causal relationship between "watching porn" and "committing adultery"? The methodology for this must be fascinating Because when he told me the story he told me so. He said that he wished that he had never started watching it because it led him to cheating on his wife. His words--not mine. Seems wildly improbably to me; since he chose to watch porn in the first place, it sounds as though he was primed and looking for something besides himself to blame his behavior on,but of course that is just my view from the outside based on this limited data and my own experience evaluating other peoples' self-reporting.[QUOTE="Laserwolf65"][QUOTE="xaos"] How are you establishing the causal relationship between "watching porn" and "committing adultery"? The methodology for this must be fascinatingxaosBecause when he told me the story he told me so. He said that he wished that he had never started watching it because it led him to cheating on his wife. His words--not mine. Seems wildly improbably to me; since he chose to watch porn in the first place, it sounds as though he was primed and looking for something besides himself to blame his behavior on,but of course that is just my view from the outside based on this limited data and my own experience evaluating other peoples' self-reporting. I believe that you're probably right. I really didn't bug him with more info, but what you said seems to make sense. To be fair though, I still don't know anyone who's assaulted or killed anyone after watching a violent video game, and if I do meet him, I would say the same thing about that person's violent behavior as you did about my friends behavior.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Laserwolf65"] Because when he told me the story he told me so. He said that he wished that he had never started watching it because it led him to cheating on his wife. His words--not mine.Laserwolf65Seems wildly improbably to me; since he chose to watch porn in the first place, it sounds as though he was primed and looking for something besides himself to blame his behavior on,but of course that is just my view from the outside based on this limited data and my own experience evaluating other peoples' self-reporting. I believe that you're probably right. I really didn't bug him with more info, but what you said seems to make sense. To be fair though, I still don't know anyone who's assaulted or killed anyone after watching a violent video game, and if I do meet him, I would say the same thing about that person's violent behavior as you did about my friends behavior. Oh totally; I think trying to attribute bad behavior to exposure to porn OR to video games is pretty busted.
If I play Mario games, and become a plumber with a grudge against turtles and become addicted to shrooms, can I blame plumber, anti-turtle pro-shroom games for that?If I play the ace attorney games, and then become an ace attorney, can I blame lawyer based video games for that?
Ravirr
I think they are both kind of equally bad but they both deal with complete different aspects of the psyche. If you combined violence with porn that is where things begin getting bad. Mind you I live in Canada not the US.
We could solve both "problems" if people were more intelligent. The only people who are affected by video games enough to go out and act violenty are mentally unstable and if people could recognize their symptoms earlier they may be able to stop them. I think a lot of the porn industry would be put out of business if people would get rid of the silly taboos placed upon sex by the generations past. It's time that people's attitudes evolve with the ever-changing media...
12 year old is what. 6th grade? yeah. 18 in 12th grade.. minus 6. i and every guy i knew was looking at pron back in 6th grade. its completely normal and no one i know, including myself became scarred by seeing the female body naked, nor seeing it penetrated. people are too careful / keep the wool over their kids eyes these days. i say expose them to the world. the sooner they know the sooner you can stop fooling them, and having them fool themselves. otherwise they will grow up to believe whatever anyone tells them and be another gullible viewer of fox news or something of the sort.[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"][QUOTE="zarkon9"]
i will answer this then try and call it a night.
i would feel troubled if i knew a twelve year old had been watching pornography. there is a time and place for that in life. they could learn something but in a way likely that could scar them mentally for the rest of their lives. this is true.
as for violence? i do not really know what to say except it would have the same impact.
Sunsence
I can honestly say i'm not without sympathy for you, but as far as pornography, it doesn't really learn you anything. It's more of a forced way of the "lovegame". I mean imagine your typical, to some what cliche porn scene. Girl can't pay pizza delivery guy, schoolgirl fails class does extra credit for better grade. The reality based porn is even worse van drives the street scoping women, spots target starts talking to her and persuade her to come with them. What's a kid gonna grow up like after watching several hours of this before reaching full maturity? That when you have a job that get's you in contact with people you might have a chance at sex, as a girl that you have to please your professor to easily get your grade up or that's it as simple as 1,2,3 to get a girl to come with you using the means provided in these type of scene's. Then the harsh reality starts to set in the kid might either get depressed or angry that his tactic don't work and he might snap in both ways.
Now i'm not saying that games don't have the same effect, but first of all in porn the video runs until the end, with out having to do anything for it. In games you first of all have to actually do it yourself, now alot of kids might already quit because they can't handle the controls. Another batch may end the game due to actually not liking the blood and gore.
It's a lot easier to protect your children from games to mature for their ages because kids simply don't have the money for it, or the parents come with them to the store. When they're at home most houses these days have internet access, at 12 to 16years you're probably mature enough to stay home alone, right? So what's stopping the kid from looking these things up. Oh ****, all the porn sites are blocked at this pc, next week he/she is at a friends house where it might not be blocked. It's not about emotional scarring of the kid, it's more about behavior, patience and respect when damaging a child when it is watching porn.
in your first two paragraphs it came off like you were questioning the educational value of porn. i did not claim, nor did not attempt imply that porn is a valuable education for anybody. if anything it desencitizes ( spelling sorry) especially a younger viewer or someone who has not had any personal experience. it portrays women as a sexual object as well. but that is another story. what i was getting at when i said expose them to the world meant that people should tell kids what is out there. from sex, porn, violence, corruption, starvation, poverty, genocide.. exc.. make them know it is happening, have them shape their own opinions. trying to keep kids away from violent video games and porn will only be harmful in the longrun. it will make them think there is something wrong with it, they will still play / watch and hide it, and then they will grow up to be either dishonest or have other flawed personality traits that deal from dishonesty through insecurity (especially with porn / sexuality ) my parents never told me specifically that porn is bad, nor did they tell me porn is ok or bad. i dont think the conversation of watching porn ever even came up with them. because i know to them, it is harmess, as i do agree with. when it came to violent video games... well i played metal gear solid 1 when i was 7 years old, and never really was cencored there either. but movies.. somewhat. i had to wait till about 11-12 to watch any R movie i wanted. my parents were very liberal in every aspect, and i think that is what works the best. they taught me the implications of everything i saw and experienced in life, what to look out for, what i should definately not do. i think talking to a kid about issues, rather than hiding them from them, is definitely the best avenue to take.Yeah, i wonder where her mouth was last before she said that :roll:
Disturbed123
See what happens when you don't actually read the post you are responding to?Pfft, she would say that.
T_P_O
I don't necessarily agree with this.. because first.. violent video games.. have many more ramifications than people are going to go start killing people.. there are much more subtle side effects.. like general aggressive behavior with language and other things.. not necessarily attributed to hurting others, but there is an effect. The same goes for viewing pornography. It's not so linear as .. violent video games make people violent if they are mentally ill. Chances are some people are more prone to violent behavior anyways.. ALSO, mental illness is not a sign of lack of intelligence. Though, this is a common mistake many people make and think mentally ill people lack intelligence.. it's nothing like that at all.We could solve both "problems" if people were more intelligent. The only people who are affected by video games enough to go out and act violenty are mentally unstable and if people could recognize their symptoms earlier they may be able to stop them. I think a lot of the porn industry would be put out of business if people would get rid of the silly taboos placed upon sex by the generations past. It's time that people's attitudes evolve with the ever-changing media...
Saturos3091
I do think sex in america and especially in american film and television is handled in an immature and taboo fashion. The fact that a film can feature all kinds of violence and gore but one breast has to be carefully censored says a lot about how messed up our priorities are as a society.
That being said, porn is hardly a mature or for that matter realisitc portrayal of sex.
[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]
[QUOTE="trialedbyfire"] watching porn does not make babies. also im sure even at age 12 most kids know what a condom is and what to do with it . Nkemjo
12 year olds?? thats sick dude.
Maybe in America it's sick but here where I live we are all given proper sex education as we go into highschool. At 12 years old you will be undergoing or just about to start puberty, you should know what these things are. Why is it so sick?
so you believe at 12 years old, you are capable of being a good parent? So your saying once you start puberty its ok to have sex? what about kids you hit puberty early?
[QUOTE="Nkemjo"]
[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]
12 year olds?? thats sick dude.
hodges_3_5
Maybe in America it's sick but here where I live we are all given proper sex education as we go into highschool. At 12 years old you will be undergoing or just about to start puberty, you should know what these things are. Why is it so sick?
so you believe at 12 years old, you are capable of being a good parent? So your saying once you start puberty its ok to have sex? what about kids you hit puberty early?
I fail to see where he said that.:o
[QUOTE="Treflis"]I actually think he has a point, granted neither are intended for children but observing/participating in Violence is worse then observing a sexual intercourse.MellosinfernoSex is worse than violence imo.How so? And keep in mind that Rape is a violent act, it is sexual but also violent. Because as far as I'm concerned, if watching a man and a woman have sex is worse then, say, beating someone up so bad they need to go to the hospital with broken bones and whatnot then something's gone wrong somewhere.
[QUOTE="hodges_3_5"]
[QUOTE="Nkemjo"]
Maybe in America it's sick but here where I live we are all given proper sex education as we go into highschool. At 12 years old you will be undergoing or just about to start puberty, you should know what these things are. Why is it so sick?
tsduv21
so you believe at 12 years old, you are capable of being a good parent? So your saying once you start puberty its ok to have sex? what about kids you hit puberty early?
I fail to see where he said that.:o
well, imo, watching porn leads to sex, maybe not immediatly, but very soon. and even at age 13 or 14 I think its way to young. imo of course
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