Prejudice still live and well in America

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#51 DJ_Novakain
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Okay, alot of the things people are saying here is really pissing me off, I'm gay I LOVE my sweety, I want to get married to him because I LOVE him, not for any kind of benefits, gay people deserve the same rights as anyone else, I thought the US was supposed to be the "Land Of The Free", what ever happened to freedom, what ever happened to equal rights, but these morons are trying to BAN others from getting married because THEY don't like it, that's BS!Yaoi-Mikey
Apparently you can vote on weather or not people get civil rights... pretty stupid.
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#52 DJ_Novakain
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

why are people so uppity about black people needing to be free.

people sure have strong feeligns, I mean if you're not black then why do you care LOL

I_Am_Sexy

yeah...

stupid

not even close to being the same

It is exactly the same. Why should I care about anyone's rights other than my owns?

marriage isn't necessary

freedom is crucial

not the same thing, lesson over

LOL WTF

According to who, you? Are you going to make any points, or just keep going nu-uh?

I just made my point! LOL!

do I have to spell it out for you WTF

use your own brain figure it out LOL

no you didn't
You have enough trouble spelling, so I won't insist.

where did I misspell a word? LOL you've gone off the deep end now LOL!!!!

man I won't argue with you, you're obviously too stubborn to admit a mistake

we'll just leave it here with everyone noticing you're wrong and you with your fingers in your ears saying nu-uh, I'm right!

LOL internet tough guys LOL

Feeligns is a word? That's a new one for me...

Its 11 o'clock. I'm going to bed.

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#53 Yaoi-Mikey
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[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"]Okay, alot of the things people are saying here is really pissing me off, I'm gay I LOVE my sweety, I want to get married to him because I LOVE him, not for any kind of benefits, gay people deserve the same rights as anyone else, I thought the US was supposed to be the "Land Of The Free", what ever happened to freedom, what ever happened to equal rights, but these morons are trying to BAN others from getting married because THEY don't like it, that's BS!DJ_Novakain
Apparently you can vote on weather or not people get civil rights... pretty stupid.

Damn straight, maybe we should just make a prop that says morons can only talk if they're slowly walking towards the edge of a cliff.

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#54 I_Am_Sexy
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Feeligns is a word? That's a new one for me...

Its 11 o'clock. I'm going to bed.

DJ_Novakain

that's not a misspelling, that's a typing error. you've never done it? oh you're perfect I forgot LOL

you actually think anyone can't tell it was just a typing error, and you call it bad spelling? LOL!!!

internet tough guy still being tough LOL!!!

yes run away to your bed, you obviously need some sleep

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#55 Yaoi-Mikey
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Feeligns is a word? That's a new one for me...

Its 11 o'clock. I'm going to bed.

I_Am_Sexy

that's not a misspelling, that's a typing error. you've never done it? oh you're perfect I forgot LOL

you actually think anyone can't tell it was just a typing error, and you call it bad spelling? LOL!!!

internet tough guy still being tough LOL!!!

yes run away to your bed, you obviously need some sleep

You obviously need to calm down mister tough.

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#56 kingdre
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Personally, I see marriage as a religious thing and prefer it the way it is. If gay couples want to have marriage rights, I guess civil unions are a good option.
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#57 Yaoi-Mikey
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Personally, I see marriage as a religious thing and prefer it the way it is. If gay couples want to have marriage rights, I guess civil unions are a good option. kingdre

If it is a religious thing, then me and my sweety should be able to get married, my sweety's gay but he's religious, he wants to actually be married, and I want him to be happy just like anybody else.

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#58 Tazzmission187
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i dont care if gays wanna get married or share the benifets like i told people before i aint gay but prejiduce needs to stop. i know this is gona sound bad but the truth is in todays world gays are the new african americans fighting for civil rights. i personally believe after what we saw lastnight shows that alot of hate dosent matter anymore. im white and honestly i never expected to see a black president in my life and im proud im alive to see it. who are we as people to say who does or dosent have civil rights.?
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#59 InterpolWilco
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I'm a Conservative and even I think banning Gay Marriage is wrong.

I think that it should be legal, as long as it doesn't attack religious organizations for not performing it or disagreeing with it.

At the end of the day though, though the Democrats won big, this country is still filled with Social Conservatives.

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#60 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Feeligns is a word? That's a new one for me...

Its 11 o'clock. I'm going to bed.

Yaoi-Mikey

that's not a misspelling, that's a typing error. you've never done it? oh you're perfect I forgot LOL

you actually think anyone can't tell it was just a typing error, and you call it bad spelling? LOL!!!

internet tough guy still being tough LOL!!!

yes run away to your bed, you obviously need some sleep

You obviously need to calm down mister tough.

mister silly I'm laughing cause he thinks he's tough LOL

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#61 Alter_Echo
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What i dont understand is why anyone, regardless of their stance gives a crap about how 2 other people want to live their life.

Tell me again how 2 guys getting married affects me at all?

People with a small comfort zone need to just keep living within their small comfort zone and stop trying to expand that zone to encompass other people's lives. If you dont like whats showing then change the channel. Is it really that hard to understand? Evidently so.

Something else i dont understand is the double standard in regards to "seperation of church and state".

Religion in school is taboo, you cant hang a picture of god up at a court house or a public office, yet this same public office might vote against a gay couples rights to marry BASED ON SOMETHING IN THE BIBLE.

How the hell does that work?

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#62 kingdre
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[QUOTE="kingdre"]Personally, I see marriage as a religious thing and prefer it the way it is. If gay couples want to have marriage rights, I guess civil unions are a good option. Yaoi-Mikey

If it is a religious thing, then me and my sweety should be able to get married, my sweety's gay but he's religious, he wants to actually be married, and I want him to be happy just like anybody else.

I don't know of any church that would perform the service and I doubt you'll find any. It's not like the government can force them to marry gay couples. Civil unions are probably your only option.

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#63 Yaoi-Mikey
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[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"]

[QUOTE="kingdre"]Personally, I see marriage as a religious thing and prefer it the way it is. If gay couples want to have marriage rights, I guess civil unions are a good option. kingdre

If it is a religious thing, then me and my sweety should be able to get married, my sweety's gay but he's religious, he wants to actually be married, and I want him to be happy just like anybody else.

I don't know of any church that would perform the service and I doubt you'll find any. It's not like the government can force them to marry gay couples. Civil unions are probably your only option.

There actually are chruches that will marry gay people, churches that are actually good, that know what love is, I'm going to get married to my sweety someday, I don't care what I have to do, I love him with all my heart and I'd crawl through a lit oven to be able to just see him happy on our wedding day.

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#64 Alter_Echo
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[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"]

[QUOTE="kingdre"]Personally, I see marriage as a religious thing and prefer it the way it is. If gay couples want to have marriage rights, I guess civil unions are a good option. kingdre

If it is a religious thing, then me and my sweety should be able to get married, my sweety's gay but he's religious, he wants to actually be married, and I want him to be happy just like anybody else.

I don't know of any church that would perform the service and I doubt you'll find any. It's not like the government can force them to marry gay couples. Civil unions are probably your only option.

Yeah but thats like saying "You can get married but you cant get married". There really shouldnt be a grey area. 2 people regardless of thier sexual orientation should have the same rights to marry. A man and a woman, 2 women, 2 men....it shouldnt matter. Civil unions are a cop out compromise that the governement uses to give gay people what they want without actually having to give them what they want.

Its like being given diet pepsi when you wanted a regular coke.

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#65 kingdre
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There actually are chruches that will marry gay people, churches that are actually good, that know what love is, I'm going to get married to my sweety someday, I don't care what I have to do, I love him with all my heart and I'd crawl through a lit oven to be able to just see him happy on our wedding day.Yaoi-Mikey

I didn't know that. In that case, do what you have to do.

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#66 kingdre
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Yeah but thats like saying "You can get married but you cant get married". There really shouldnt be a grey area. 2 people regardless of thier sexual orientation should have the same rights to marry. A man and a woman, 2 women, 2 men....it shouldnt matter. Civil unions are a cop out compromise that the governement uses to give gay people what they want without actually having to give them what they want.

Its like being given diet pepsi when you wanted a regular coke.

Alter_Echo

But when it comes to a church marriage, you have to play by their rules and I don't them changing anytime soon. I don't see anything wrong with a civil marriage because it seems like a fair compromise. You have the married status, the only difference being is that it's not recognized by the church. And if you really love each other, does that last part even matter?

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#67 Yaoi-Mikey
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[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]Yeah but thats like saying "You can get married but you cant get married". There really shouldnt be a grey area. 2 people regardless of thier sexual orientation should have the same rights to marry. A man and a woman, 2 women, 2 men....it shouldnt matter. Civil unions are a cop out compromise that the governement uses to give gay people what they want without actually having to give them what they want.

Its like being given diet pepsi when you wanted a regular coke.

kingdre

But when it comes to a church marriage, you have to play by their rules and I don't them changing anytime soon. I don't see anything wrong with a civil marriage because it seems like a fair compromise. You have the married status, the only difference being is that it's not recognized by the church. And if you really love each other, does that last part even matter?

Yes, it does matter, we don't want some half-ass ceremony, we don't want some BS cop-out, we want to be married.

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#68 kingdre
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Yes, it does matter, we don't want some half-ass ceremony, we don't want some BS cop-out, we want to be married.Yaoi-Mikey

But you just said there were churches that marry gay couples...

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#69 Yaoi-Mikey
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[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"]Yes, it does matter, we don't want some half-ass ceremony, we don't want some BS cop-out, we want to be married.kingdre

But you just said there were churches that marry gay couples...

There are, but I'm just talking about the thing of people saying "Get a civil union, it's all the same", the only problem is, it's not the same, a civil union is BS, it's a cop-out.

Forget that, we want equal rights, not some second-rate version.

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#70 I_Am_Sexy
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Yes, it does matter, we don't want some half-ass ceremony, we don't want some BS cop-out, we want to be married.

Yaoi-Mikey

why

marriage just complicates things

I think marriage is on it's way out and I can't wait until people finally realize they don't need it

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#71 kingdre
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[QUOTE="kingdre"]

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"]Yes, it does matter, we don't want some half-ass ceremony, we don't want some BS cop-out, we want to be married.Yaoi-Mikey

But you just said there were churches that marry gay couples...

There are, but I'm just talking about the thing of people saying "Get a civil union, it's all the same", the only problem is, it's not the same, a civil union is BS, it's a cop-out.

Forget that, we want equal rights, not some second-rate version.

In that case, it's all up to the church. Like I said, the government can't force them to change their rules.

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#72 nomadph
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well, if you're born with a p3nis, then be a man. otherwise, be a lady.

unless there's scientific proof on biological changes that make a person gay then no, gay marriage should be forbidden. if all these gay men lack is testosterone, then give them testosterone shots.

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#73 I_Am_Sexy
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well, if you're born with a p3nis, then be a man. otherwise, be a lady.

unless there's scientific proof on biological changes that make a person gay then no, gay marriage should be forbidden. if all these gay men lack is testosterone, then give them testosterone shots.

nomadph

LOL you're funny

not really

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#74 MagnumPI
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Prejudice will be everywhere forever. Besides this is not prejudice, people just don't agree. There's nothing to pre-judge? marriage literally means a bound between a male and a female. So why can't gay people come up with a new term? Why do heterosexuals have to bend over backwards for the homosexuals? Don't steal everyone else's customs, get your own.

These days the tradition of marriage has become so meaningless that there is no reason to get married at all. People make promises they can't keep because they have no concept of responsibility. That's why I think gay people want to get married. Marriage has been cheapened into an item of a bragging rights lifestyle. Homosexuals have a disposable lifestyle so marriage doesn't serve a purpose. They are insane with pride. They just won't stop telling people how gay they are. It's like a gay-off or something.

Heterosexuals do not want to be associated gay people. Not unless they are bisexual lesbians with huge boobs. So invent a term that does not involve marriage. Call your union that and we can forget it since it doesn't apply to us.

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#75 I_Am_Sexy
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1. Why do heterosexuals have to bend over backwards for the homosexuals?

2. Heterosexuals do not want to be associated gay people. Not unless they are bisexual lesbians with huge boobs.

MagnumPI

1. I don't think they do, LOL! they usually do that for each other

2.bisexual does not equal homosexual, you messed up LOL

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#76 Lto_thaG
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I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?
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#77 I_Am_Sexy
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I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?Lto_thaG

because you guys are so hilarious you make me LOL or say WTF all the time

LOL

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#78 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?I_Am_Sexy

because you guys are so hilarious you make me LOL or say WTF all the time

LOL


All the time...
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#79 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?Lto_thaG

because you guys are so hilarious you make me LOL or say WTF all the time

LOL


All the time...

pretty much LOL

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#80 deepdreamer256
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Am I in before Vandalvideo spreads rubbish about the 'massive strains' gay marriage would have on the systen? Whatever. Anyway, I see what the TC means. Tonnes of people are voting like this because of prejudice and ignorance, it's not really fair on the homosexual minority. :(
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#81 I_Am_Sexy
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Am I in before Vandalvideo spreads rubbish about the 'massive strains' gay marriage would have on the systen? Whatever. Anyway, I see what the TC means. Tonnes of people are voting like this because of prejudice and ignorance, it's not really fair on the homosexual minority. :(deepdreamer256

thanks captain obvious LOL

might as well tell us the sky is blue LOL

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#82 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"]Am I in before Vandalvideo spreads rubbish about the 'massive strains' gay marriage would have on the systen? Whatever. Anyway, I see what the TC means. Tonnes of people are voting like this because of prejudice and ignorance, it's not really fair on the homosexual minority. :(I_Am_Sexy

thanks captain obvious LOL

might as well tell us the sky is blue LOL

LOL what's your problem, I'm just stating my position on the matter. >_>
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#83 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"]Am I in before Vandalvideo spreads rubbish about the 'massive strains' gay marriage would have on the systen? Whatever. Anyway, I see what the TC means. Tonnes of people are voting like this because of prejudice and ignorance, it's not really fair on the homosexual minority. :(deepdreamer256

thanks captain obvious LOL

might as well tell us the sky is blue LOL

LOL what's your problem, I'm just stating my position on the matter. >_>

LOL ok

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#84 Vandalvideo
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To quote justice Brennan; "Nor do we [protect those that are not] an absolute immutable characteristic, since it is the product of concious action". Gays have long been viewed by the law as a non-protected class. Evolving over time from the Bowers v. Hardwick cases to the modern atmosphere surrounding gay marriage. Gays are simply not entitled to *federal* protection. That is not to say, however, that they cannot seek recourse on the state level. States may grant *those rights not delegated to the federal government*, and "The court also reasoned that marriage has traditionally been subject to state regulation without federal intervention, and, consequently, the regulation of marriage should be left to exclusive state control by the tenth amendment" (Warren, Loving v. Virginia). To summize, gays may seek marriage rights on the state level, but if they are denied, they are not obligated anything.
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#85 markop2003
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Separation of Church and State, man. Quit pushing your State on the Church and they'll quit pushing their Church on your state. Marriage was started as a religious ceremony. Just drop it. Come up with your own term for whatever you people do.

Can't have it one sided...

DryvBy4Ever

mariage is a leagal document, the ceromony means nothing and i'm perfectly happy for a church not to allow it and there could be a gay mariage church if someone wanted to build one

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#86 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?I_Am_Sexy

because you guys are so hilarious you make me LOL or say WTF all the time

LOL


All the time...

pretty much LOL

you Laugh Out Loud at "All the time...", i think you need to go see a phsychiatrist...

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#87 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I_Am_Sexy,wth is up with the 'LOL' and 'WTF' after almost each phrase :?markop2003

because you guys are so hilarious you make me LOL or say WTF all the time

LOL


All the time...

pretty much LOL

you Laugh Out Loud at "All the time...", i think you need to go see a phsychiatrist...

LOL you're too serious too, you're making me LOL

I picture you shaking your head and wondering WTF is wrong with this guy LOL

who needs a psychiatrist?

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#88 freshgman
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think it will be banned in cali as well but yeah. i think marrige is between a man and a woman.
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#89 Santesyu
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I don't know why you people are suprised by this, the people have came to there senses and the people have spoken.

Simple as that.

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#92 Protoford
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While all this may be true, usa is still the least prejudicial country in the world. Much worse anywhere else, not always to the same groups, but worse none the less.
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#93 Dark-Sithious
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A bit off topic, but why did you choose emoevolution as your nickname?
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Separation of Church and State, man. Quit pushing your State on the Church and they'll quit pushing their Church on your state. Marriage was started as a religious ceremony. Just drop it. Come up with your own term for whatever you people do.

Can't have it one sided...

DryvBy4Ever

Marriage is nothing new, perhapes christians should find another ceremony and stop copying pagen religions.

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#95 Dark-Sithious
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[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

I don't know why you people are suprised by this, the people have came to there senses and the people have spoken.

Simple as that.

I_Am_Sexy

LOL this guy hates gays

LOL you are not very funny

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While all this may be true, usa is still the least prejudicial country in the world. Much worse anywhere else, not always to the same groups, but worse none the less.Protoford

I find that hard to believe, most consider Europe more socially progressive then the United States in many areas, there are exceptions of course.

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#97 Palantas
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I think gays should be allowed to get married. I can't think of any good reasons why they shouldn't be allowed to. I think the arguments supporting gay marriage apply to polygamists too, but I guess I don't have a problem with that either.

What's the point of gays marrying if they cannot produce kids?

Ultimate-Playa

That's a horrible argument. Being able to produce offspring has never been a prerequisite for marriage, otherwise infertile couples and people with serious genetic defects should not be allowed to get married either.

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#98 RedMasterDX
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I find it sad that people put their religous values before their american values. Larger societies will always try to supress subcultures that they find conflicting with their own.

People trying to pass bills to prevent gay marriage are indirectly saying "I'm living in this country to benefit the freedom to practice my own culture, but I'm not going to give the (ex. homosexuals) the same opportunity because my culture doesnt agree with it."

For those who dont know, religion is part of culture.

And no one owns marriage, there are many different religions, cultures, and societies that practice it. Who are we to say one other group cant have it.

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#100 Dark-Sithious
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[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"][QUOTE="Santesyu"]

I don't know why you people are suprised by this, the people have came to there senses and the people have spoken.

Simple as that.

I_Am_Sexy

LOL this guy hates gays

LOL you are not very funny

you're not!

LOL

Nice comeback there Rocky. I hope this LOL thing of yours doesn't become a new fad.