Prejudice still live and well in America

I find it sad that people put their religous values before their american values. Larger societies will always try to supress subcultures that they find conflicting with their own.

People trying to pass bills to prevent gay marriage are indirectly saying "I'm living in this country to benefit the freedom to practice my own culture, but I'm not going to give the (ex. homosexuals) the same opportunity because my culture doesnt agree with it."

RedMasterDX

I think the argument for gays being allowed to marry should be phrased in terms of protecting their human rights, not because we should "protect their subculture." There's all sorts of activities that violate our cultural norms that we make illegal, like nudism and bestiality.

What i dont understand is why anyone, regardless of their stance gives a crap about how 2 other people want to live their life.

Tell me again how 2 guys getting married affects me at all?

People with a small comfort zone need to just keep living within their small comfort zone and stop trying to expand that zone to encompass other people's lives. If you dont like whats showing then change the channel. Is it really that hard to understand? Evidently so.

Something else i dont understand is the double standard in regards to "seperation of church and state".

Religion in school is taboo, you cant hang a picture of god up at a court house or a public office, yet this same public office might vote against a gay couples rights to marry BASED ON SOMETHING IN THE BIBLE.

How the hell does that work?

Alter_Echo

I don't know. Proposition 8 passing won't do anything to the school's curriculum other than state that California does not allow same-sex marriage. That's the only change to it. There's nothing stopping teachers from discussing same-sex civil unions alongside marriage because civil unions are a government established union, and I guess apparently marriage is not, so they're not saving their children from anything. They're basically hiding under a blanket and telling gay couples to go away and that if they vote against gay marriage, that gay couples won't exist.

[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]

What i dont understand is why anyone, regardless of their stance gives a crap about how 2 other people want to live their life.

Tell me again how 2 guys getting married affects me at all?

People with a small comfort zone need to just keep living within their small comfort zone and stop trying to expand that zone to encompass other people's lives. If you dont like whats showing then change the channel. Is it really that hard to understand? Evidently so.

Something else i dont understand is the double standard in regards to "seperation of church and state".

Religion in school is taboo, you cant hang a picture of god up at a court house or a public office, yet this same public office might vote against a gay couples rights to marry BASED ON SOMETHING IN THE BIBLE.

How the hell does that work?

Lockedge

I don't know. Proposition 8 passing won't do anything to the school's curriculum other than state that California does not allow same-sex marriage. That's the only change to it. There's nothing stopping teachers from discussing same-sex civil unions alongside marriage because civil unions are a government established union, and I guess apparently marriage is not, so they're not saving their children from anything. They're basically hiding under a blanket and telling gay couples to go away and that if they vote against gay marriage, that gay couples won't exist.

Wait.. Teachers don't teach what marriage is, if anything its in history of some one getting married.. Teaching gay marriage sounds so silly, its lik saying you are teaching the color of brown. Its just a state that needs a full sentence to explain.. That is it.. Its blind prejudice in the end no matter how it is.

well, if you're born with a p3nis, then be a man. otherwise, be a lady.

unless there's scientific proof on biological changes that make a person gay then no, gay marriage should be forbidden. if all these gay men lack is testosterone, then give them testosterone shots.

nomadph

Actually, there's substantial proof about biological causes of transsexuality while fetuses grow in the womb, so...your first sentence is incorrect. :P

Unfortunately, wwhile there's proof on homosexuality being genetic/biological, there's also proof on it being causes by other factors. That said, there's no shred of (valid)proof that homosexuality is choice-based, so at least that much is ruled out.

Testosterone shots would not help. I'm no biologist but i'd imagine it would have something to do with pheremone reaction.

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="Alter_Echo"]

What i dont understand is why anyone, regardless of their stance gives a crap about how 2 other people want to live their life.

Tell me again how 2 guys getting married affects me at all?

People with a small comfort zone need to just keep living within their small comfort zone and stop trying to expand that zone to encompass other people's lives. If you dont like whats showing then change the channel. Is it really that hard to understand? Evidently so.

Something else i dont understand is the double standard in regards to "seperation of church and state".

Religion in school is taboo, you cant hang a picture of god up at a court house or a public office, yet this same public office might vote against a gay couples rights to marry BASED ON SOMETHING IN THE BIBLE.

How the hell does that work?

sSubZerOo

I don't know. Proposition 8 passing won't do anything to the school's curriculum other than state that California does not allow same-sex marriage. That's the only change to it. There's nothing stopping teachers from discussing same-sex civil unions alongside marriage because civil unions are a government established union, and I guess apparently marriage is not, so they're not saving their children from anything. They're basically hiding under a blanket and telling gay couples to go away and that if they vote against gay marriage, that gay couples won't exist.

Wait.. Teachers don't teach what marriage is, if anything its in history of some one getting married.. Teaching gay marriage sounds so silly, its lik saying you are teaching the color of brown. Its just a state that needs a full sentence to explain.. That is it.. Its blind prejudice in the end no matter how it is.

Aye. When I went through school, I don't believe I was ever taught about marriage or relationships aside from Penis goes in vagina and here's a video of sperm to creep you kids out". That was the extent of learning about relationships in school. The majority of my knowledge at the time came from family and friends.

You're right, teachers don't teach what marriage is(well, I wouldn't imagine they would). Even IF they did, it would be discussed in relationships; which, if they were thorough, would include same-sex relationships. So saying that "yes on 8" is for the kids...it's bull. I can see one of those "Non-married sexual partner ban on adoption" propositions next time around in California.