Prop 8 set to Pass (Samesex Marriage Ban)

[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Santesyu

So would you rather that kid grow up in an abusive, heterosexual household than a stable, loving homosexual household? Pick one.

And you completely missed the point of my post... :|

Sex is obviously an extension of your sexuality but just because a homosexual male of female doesn't have sex with the same gender does not make them heterosexual. How many times do we have to tell you this? But of course it's hard to get through to an ignorant person. stevenk4k5

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]*sigh* You're not only homosexual if you have sex. You're homosexual if you're attracted to others of your sex. Vandalvideo

Then sexual practices are indicative of orientation; doesn't mean that they are orientation.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Yaoi-Mikey

So f**king what, kids will torment each other over anything, if the kid just has parents that love him it doesn't matter what damn gender they are, he'll be happy, it just comes down to if his parents will be there for him.

Moron.

Also I agree completely with what stevenk4k5 said, that's a good thing to think about.

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

LikeHaterade

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

Jandurin

Well I never said that. I was just responding to the previous post. He said that if their parents love them, then it doesn't effect them. But it does.

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Archon_

So f**king what, kids will torment each other over anything, if the kid just has parents that love him it doesn't matter what damn gender they are, he'll be happy, it just comes down to if his parents will be there for him.

Moron.

Also I agree completely with what stevenk4k5 said, that's a good thing to think about.

Lol you are the moron. Chill.

Ideally, children need both a mother and father. This is the balance of things and has been like this for generations. Of course, this isnt always possible. In my opinion, having two parents of the same gender would be very unfortunate and unpleasant.

You are free to unbunch your panties now.

I know quite a few gay couples that have raised children much better than straight couples, that's BS, a child will do fine if they just have loving parents, it doesn't have to be a man and a woman.

So the most progressive American State is not as Progressive as Nancy Pelosi would lead you to believe.

Life goes on.

So much for land of the free.dracula_16

Ditto. WTH?

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

LikeHaterade

[QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

stevenk4k5

So would you rather that kid grow up in an abusive, heterosexual household than a stable, loving homosexual household? Pick one.

Homosexuals can't be abusive/heterosexuals are only abusive?

If you're being serious then that's a very hateful and just outright foolish and bigoted load of ****.

Yaoi-Mikey

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

Jandurin

Wow you are so wrong. Parents also run away from their kids too.

Homosexuals can't be abusive/heterosexuals are only abusive?

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Theokhoth

So would you rather that kid grow up in an abusive, heterosexual household than a stable, loving homosexual household? Pick one.

Homosexuals can't be abusive/heterosexuals are only abusive?

[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Theokhoth

So would you rather that kid grow up in an abusive, heterosexual household than a stable, loving homosexual household? Pick one.

Homosexuals can't be abusive/heterosexuals are only abusive?

And you missed my point as well. :roll:

It was just an example to give you something to think about, it wasn't meant to signify that all straight couples are abusive and all gay couples are saints.

Wow you are so wrong. Parents also run away from their kids too.

balindos

[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

My original point was - I couldn't care less if gay people are getting legally bound to one another. Give them benefits, thats cool it doesnt affect my life whatsoever... but it aint called marriage.

And think of how much abuse a kid must get a school when his friends find out that he has a boy daddy and a girl daddy. Totally unfair to the kid. Stability has nothing to do with it. Just plain wrong.

Theokhoth

So would you rather that kid grow up in an abusive, heterosexual household than a stable, loving homosexual household? Pick one.

Homosexuals can't be abusive/heterosexuals are only abusive?

He's just trying to make a point, some people think no gay people should be able to have children whatsoever, even if their original parents were monsters, so he's only saying, would you rather they be with a good stable family that just happened to be gay or would you rather them stay with a family that was abusive just because "they're straight, so they're right"

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

My mom works with thousands of teens a year in a runaway shelter. She has dealt with many cases where a boy or girl runs away from home due their stress from people making fun of them for having two moms or two dads. It can be very hard for children sometimes.

Mr_sprinkles

This is where I do agree. Gays should not bring new life into the world using another person of another sex to provide the birth of their child. Adopt all you want but dont bring new life. Give that kid a chance to have his actual parents.

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

Archon_

I'm sorry but this is a topic that hits really close to home for me, the ignorance some people show is just outright sickening.

This ban reminds me of something.....

Oh yeah thats right

[QUOTE="Archon_"]

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

Yaoi-Mikey

I'm sorry but this is a topic that hits really close to home for me, the ignorance some people show is just outright sickening.

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

Santesyu

I'm sorry but this is a topic that hits really close to home for me, the ignorance some people show is just outright sickening.

No, the people who voted for tha ban. The ones who are against what America was founded on. This prop is virtually the same as womens right to vote.

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

Santesyu

I'm sorry but this is a topic that hits really close to home for me, the ignorance some people show is just outright sickening.

The ignorance that some people think gay parents can't raise children and the like, that's PURE IGNORANCE, that or just outright blind hate.

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="Archon_"]

BTW Yaoi-Mikey, it would be nice if you didn't insult people just because they disagree with your unfounded views.

You're the only one doing any sort of name calling on this thread, and its not exactly the best way to get your views across.

Santesyu

I'm sorry but this is a topic that hits really close to home for me, the ignorance some people show is just outright sickening.

I think he's talking about the things some people have posted in this topic.

Im disgusted California passed this prop. The only reason I voted No is because I have a gay cousin. If he wants to get married, then let him, who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Also, does anyone know if the Arkansas Prop to ban gay couples from adopting passed?

who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

barcx17

THANK YOU, very good question! lol

[QUOTE="barcx17"]

who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Yaoi-Mikey

THANK YOU, very good question! lol

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="barcx17"]

who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Santesyu

THANK YOU, very good question! lol

I guess you don't understand the meaning of freedom, or at least what it USED to mean.

Im disgusted California passed this prop. The only reason I voted No is because I have a gay cousin. If he wants to get married, then let him, who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Also, does anyone know if the Arkansas Prop to ban gay couples from adopting passed?

barcx17

[QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="barcx17"]

who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Santesyu

THANK YOU, very good question! lol

nuff said

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="Yaoi-Mikey"][QUOTE="barcx17"]

who are they to tell him "we don't like it, so you can't do it."

Yaoi-Mikey

THANK YOU, very good question! lol

I guess you don't understand the meaning of freedom, or at least what it USED to mean.

I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. Elraptor

The majority of California has always been anti gay marriage. Even when it was legalized.

I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. Elraptor

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. links136

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

[QUOTE="links136"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. Santesyu

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

against gays for being gay Or thinking gays should be denied rights for being born different.

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="links136"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. links136

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

against gays for being gay Or thinking gays should be denied rights for being born different.

[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="links136"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. Santesyu

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

against gays for being gay Or thinking gays should be denied rights for being born different.

How many times must people tell you that being gay is not a choice. Why would anyone choose to be hated, put down, beaten, and slandered?

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]He looks sparkly white to me.Theokhoth

Okay. . . but he was born black.:|

"Black," or "African American," is a lineage, not a mere skin color.:| Lineage is immutable.

So then every human being that ever existed is black?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]He looks sparkly white to me.Zero5000X

Okay. . . but he was born black.:|

"Black," or "African American," is a lineage, not a mere skin color.:| Lineage is immutable.

So then every human being that ever existed is black?

They're Pangean. :P

[QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="Santesyu"][QUOTE="links136"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"]I was surprised to see something like that pass in CA. It would have been one of the last states I'd expect to do so. stevenk4k5

can you really allow all this unconstitutional hate to go unbanned? It IS discrimination against a minority.

against gays for being gay Or thinking gays should be denied rights for being born different.

How many times must people tell you that being gay is not a choice. Why would anyone choose to be hated, put down, beaten, and slandered?