Pure communism or Pure capitalism??

The best would be an equal mix of capitalism an socialism, but if I had to choose it would be capitalism. But really, what's the difference between pure capitalism and pure communism besides which small group of people has all of the power to oppress the majority?genfactor

The difference is that in communist country the small group with power's job is to serve the people. In a purely capitalist society the rich enslave and exploit everyone else for profits.

RushKing

Says who?

In magic world, were ponies fight bears: Pure communism. True comfortable equality, everyone happy.

In real world: Pure capitalism. Unfair at times, yes. But does not need the permanent silencing of millions of dissents to work.

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

The difference is that in communist country the small group with power's job is to serve the people. In a purely capitalist society the rich enslave and exploit everyone else for profits.

airshocker

Says who?

Corps are out for profit, the ideal government is out for the people.RushKing

Okay, so how does that mean in a purely capitalist society the rich enslave and exploit everyone else? Government still exists in a pure capitalist society.

[QUOTE="RushKing"]Corps are out for profit, the ideal government is out for the people.airshocker

Okay, so how does that mean in a purely capitalist society the rich enslave and exploit everyone else? Government still exists in a pure capitalist society.

Socialism infringes on human rights. You have the right to your life and to liberty. You don't have the right to the fruits of other people's labor. Redistribution of wealth is a violation of rights of the individual. Vuurk

So the people who choose to do nothing with their lives but waste money and waste time and not put in any effort or exert themselves in school/work are somehow being exploited? This idea is cancerous. Vuurk

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Okay, so how does that mean in a purely capitalist society the rich enslave and exploit everyone else? Government still exists in a pure capitalist society.

Vuurk

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

Pure capitalism, just as evolution kill off the weak so that the strong can build a better future.

Vuurk

I will attempt it tomorrow just really lazy when it comes to writing.

I would like to ride on the back of a dragon with my valkyrie girlfriend. We'd settle in Oz after finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

[QUOTE="wellbigd"]

An ideal system would be a mix between socialism and captialism.

socalism safeguards the poor and human rights.

While captailsm provides choice, competion, and innovation.

Vuurk

[QUOTE="wellbigd"]

An ideal system would be a mix between socialism and captialism.

socalism safeguards the poor and human rights.

While captailsm provides choice, competion, and innovation.

Vuurk

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

Okay, how could there be a government if absolutely everything is privatized? Pure capitalism is basically anarchy. Have fun geting stomped over.

Vuurk

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Why aren't they applying themselves? Finding out could cure that issue. Currently the cost of living, cost of education and prospects of wealth in a given field can be quite discouraging.Vuurk

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] Socialism infringes on human rights. You have the right to your life and to liberty. You don't have the right to the fruits of other people's labor. Redistribution of wealth is a violation of rights of the individual. Vuurk

Your 'anti-redistribution' position... (violates the rights of the individual)

Take a little from an individual, and benefit society as a whole, not all professions are equally profitable, and often the least important ones are the most profitable (see sports vs teachers).

Corporations generally only care to improve their profits, so research 'n such would be narrowed to 'their' interests.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"] Huh, I thought it was more communist. Vuurk

"Would you rather be maimed by a lion or a bear?"

You might as well be asking me that question... Anyways I choose the bear (communism).

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] Not at all. The role of government is to protect property rights, provide a legal system (police/courts), and provide national defense. You can still have government even with laissez-faire capitalism...Vuurk

Pure Capitalism incredibly explotitive, pure communism doesn't work, so neither.

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] So if I plant a tree, cut it down when it's fully grown and then build a house out of it with my bare hands it doesn't belong to me? Vuurk

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] So you're trying to make capitalism look bad by linking it with China? Also Hong Kong =/= China...Vuurk

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"] Wtf does this have to do with my post? Vuurk

Your 'anti-redistribution' position... (violates the rights of the individual)

Take a little from an individual, and benefit society as a whole, not all professions are equally profitable, and often the least important ones are the most profitable (see sports vs teachers).

Corporations generally only care to improve their profits, so research 'n such would be narrowed to 'their' interests.

No, but why should the Footballer make so much either?

They don't contribute to the society adequately and corporations that they may invest in aren't benevolent. Teachers, Scientists, Historians don't contribute directly (if at all) to the economy, but instead to society.

I think it's a violation of human rights to stunt the progress of science just for the sake of making more $.

Look at helium, idiots with their balloons wasting it, when it could be put to better us in fields of science, all 'cause it's 'profitable' we could do with out helium balloons. And there is an actual issue with helium and research, there are whole facilities that are closed due to lack of helium to cool their equipment, all because of stupid balloons.

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] I disagree on every end of the spectrum. Vuurk

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] Not at all. China's economy is no where near free market. You can not even categorize them as being the same economic system.

Vuurk