QOTD: Why do nice guys finish last?

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#1 TheWZRD
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I'd like to hear OT's answers on this particular question. Do you believe the "Nice guys finish last" theory is factual or blasphemy?

I believe this theory because of my personal experiences/history.

EDIT: Mistake on title. Meant to say QOTD (Question Of The Day) not QTOD.

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#2 Pittfan666
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I believe it, considering I am a nice fellow that is finishing last.
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#3 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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False. It is the super nice guys who finish last.

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#4 CoolSkAGuy
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They're too needy...
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#5 Skarwolf
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Its true.

Example, my last job I figured I'd just work hard and not stir the pot. Do my job and hope to be recognized. I noticed rampant blatant arse kissery all over the place with the owner. I figured he'd be smart enough to know the good workers from the bad. One dude even developed an accent while speaking to him to match the owners accent.

Guess who got laid off. Me. So fk that about being nice now. My new job if someone does something wrong I tell on them. I make them look bad and stupid. I've already gotten a raise. That seems to be the only way to get ahead.

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#6 Fightingfan
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Assh()les are genuinely more interesting.
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#7 MrsSolidSnake
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It's a load of sh*t.

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#9 SwagSurf
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This man has the answer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eld4BIGiB9Y&list=FL84ADQzHzVDqfCjwglnMkzg&index=7&feature=plpp_video

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#10 ZumaJones07
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nice guys start last
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#11 chilly-chill
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Being a dick is the way to go, they'll keep coming back for more/
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#12 KiIIyou
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Its true.

Example, my last job I figured I'd just work hard and not stir the pot. Do my job and hope to be recognized. I noticed rampant blatant arse kissery all over the place with the owner. I figured he'd be smart enough to know the good workers from the bad. One dude even developed an accent while speaking to him to match the owners accent.

Guess who got laid off. Me. So fk that about being nice now. My new job if someone does something wrong I tell on them. I make them look bad and stupid. I've already gotten a raise. That seems to be the only way to get ahead.

Skarwolf
Sounds like they were nicer than you.
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#14 ScottMescudi
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I believe it, but women will grow out of this eventually. I believe it applies more towards high school students and college freshman students. When women think about their future, that's when they'll start finding the nice gentlemen.

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#17 TheWZRD
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I believe it, but women will grow out of this eventually. I believe it applies more towards high school students and college freshman students. When women think about their future, that's when they'll start finding the nice gentlemen.

ScottMescudi
Haven't thought of that actually. You might be right.
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#18 Joshywaa
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[QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Its true.

Example, my last job I figured I'd just work hard and not stir the pot. Do my job and hope to be recognized. I noticed rampant blatant arse kissery all over the place with the owner. I figured he'd be smart enough to know the good workers from the bad. One dude even developed an accent while speaking to him to match the owners accent.

Guess who got laid off. Me. So fk that about being nice now. My new job if someone does something wrong I tell on them. I make them look bad and stupid. I've already gotten a raise. That seems to be the only way to get ahead.

KiIIyou

Sounds like they were nicer than you.

are you a nice guy

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#19 Solid_Tango
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Cause they don't have enough gas. Sometimes you just gotta start being a dick or you will never get a chick :cool:

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This is true. I personally cannot be someone that i m not so **** it.
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[QUOTE="ScottMescudi"]

I believe it, but women will grow out of this eventually. I believe it applies more towards high school students and college freshman students. When women think about their future, that's when they'll start finding the nice gentlemen.

TheWZRD

Haven't thought of that actually. You might be right.

Yeah I believe that works as well. Once I get out of school, I'll probably stop some of my d-bagish ways.

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#21 cjuncto
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I finish last and I am sort of a douche, people consider me nice but I am only nice because it seems like the right thing to do. If I was a sociopath I doubt I would be nice to everyone.
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#22 -Toshy-
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White knights finish last, not nice guys. She'll sniff on the fact that they're just being nice to get with her and drag them along.
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#23 KiIIyou
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Its true.

Example, my last job I figured I'd just work hard and not stir the pot. Do my job and hope to be recognized. I noticed rampant blatant arse kissery all over the place with the owner. I figured he'd be smart enough to know the good workers from the bad. One dude even developed an accent while speaking to him to match the owners accent.

Guess who got laid off. Me. So fk that about being nice now. My new job if someone does something wrong I tell on them. I make them look bad and stupid. I've already gotten a raise. That seems to be the only way to get ahead.

Joshywaa

Sounds like they were nicer than you.

are you a nice guy

Yeah but sometimes I don't care enough to try so then I prolly seem like a jerky jerk.
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#24 ScottMescudi
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[QUOTE="TheWZRD"][QUOTE="ScottMescudi"]

I believe it, but women will grow out of this eventually. I believe it applies more towards high school students and college freshman students. When women think about their future, that's when they'll start finding the nice gentlemen.

sherman-tank1

Haven't thought of that actually. You might be right.

Yeah I believe that works as well. Once I get out of school, I'll probably stop some of my d-bagish ways.

It'll happen eventually :P
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#26 NiKva
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What is QTOD?
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#27 almasdeathchild
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a guy is like a tile if you lay him right the first time you can walk all over him for years

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#29 foxhound_fox
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Which kind of "finish" are we talking about here?
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#31 cheese_game619
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Because a woman wants a man not a sheep. Nice guys ask what they want to do instead of making decisions. They are too passive. It's boring. The only way it works is if the girl is passive as well (and can't find a decisive guy) or if they have a weird domination fetish thing going on.
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#32 NiKva
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[QUOTE="NiKva"]What is QTOD?TheWZRD
Question Of The Day, Thanks for pointing that out

Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"
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#33 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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[QUOTE="TheWZRD"][QUOTE="NiKva"]What is QTOD?NiKva
Question Of The Day, Thanks for pointing that out

Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"

Uhhhh..... It's QOTD.

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#34 TheWZRD
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[QUOTE="TheWZRD"][QUOTE="NiKva"]What is QTOD?NiKva
Question Of The Day, Thanks for pointing that out

Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"

QOTD: Question Of The Day

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#35 Bardock47
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It just about confidence. I honestly dont buy the whole nice guy thing. You are who you are, and u just hhave to be confident and put yourself out there. Dont have to be a dick.

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#36 -Toshy-
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Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"NiKva
That's why he said "Thanks for pointing that out". How dense are you?
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#38 Nikalai_88
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It's hard to connect with people who are always nice. First, its hard to be funny when you are always nice and you never find the limits of what kind of jokes you can make and what kind you can't. Second, niceness can be counter productive. For example, you are going through a **** situation. It's soooo much better when you meet a person who has the same experience instead of just being "nice". Also "nice" can be annoying when you don't agree with the positive statements.

So to sum it up, you want to connect to a person, being "nice" is something that you can do to everyone! So what is there to connect over?

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#39 NiKva
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[QUOTE="NiKva"]Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"-Toshy-
That's why he said "Thanks for pointing that out". How dense are you?

I'm as dense as iridium. Not really, I just like to be an ass.
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It's hard to connect with people who are always nice. First, its hard to be funny when you are always nice and you never find the limits of what kind of jokes you can make and what kind you can't. Second, niceness can be counter productive. For example, you are going through a **** situation. It's soooo much better when you meet a person who has the same experience instead of just being "nice". Also "nice" can be annoying when you don't agree with the positive statements.

So to sum it up, you want to connect to a person, being "nice" is something that you can do to everyone! So what is there to connect over?

Nikalai_88

Well, that does sound boring, I mean I consider myslef a nice guy, and i make jokes that probably do take it to far....is there like a universal definiotn between a dick and nice guy we can use? It seems different people have different defeintions. Whn I say nice guy, i just mena a guy thats generally nice and not a totall dick/.

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#41 Tykain
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If "being nice" is all that someone has to offer, then yes he will finish last. Most girls want a nice guy, but ultimately what they want and what they are attracted to is 2 completely different things.
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#42 Hexagon_777
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The last one cheated on me with some dick whom nobody amo0ngst her family, extended family, and close friends liked. I suppose I was too nice in the end. Guess looks and money and a somewhat decent personality aren't enough to keep a girl with daddy issues.
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#43 Nikalai_88
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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

It's hard to connect with people who are always nice. First, its hard to be funny when you are always nice and you never find the limits of what kind of jokes you can make and what kind you can't. Second, niceness can be counter productive. For example, you are going through a **** situation. It's soooo much better when you meet a person who has the same experience instead of just being "nice". Also "nice" can be annoying when you don't agree with the positive statements.

So to sum it up, you want to connect to a person, being "nice" is something that you can do to everyone! So what is there to connect over?

Bardock47

Well, that does sound boring, I mean I consider myslef a nice guy, and i make jokes that probably do take it to far....is there like a universal definiotn between a dick and nice guy we can use? It seems different people have different defeintions. Whn I say nice guy, i just mena a guy thats generally nice and not a totall dick/.

Yeah, who knows? I thought that TP was talking about a really extreme definition of nice. A lot of people are "nice" if we define it as not being a total dick.

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#44 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

It's hard to connect with people who are always nice. First, its hard to be funny when you are always nice and you never find the limits of what kind of jokes you can make and what kind you can't. Second, niceness can be counter productive. For example, you are going through a **** situation. It's soooo much better when you meet a person who has the same experience instead of just being "nice". Also "nice" can be annoying when you don't agree with the positive statements.

So to sum it up, you want to connect to a person, being "nice" is something that you can do to everyone! So what is there to connect over?

Nikalai_88

Well, that does sound boring, I mean I consider myslef a nice guy, and i make jokes that probably do take it to far....is there like a universal definiotn between a dick and nice guy we can use? It seems different people have different defeintions. Whn I say nice guy, i just mena a guy thats generally nice and not a totall dick/.

Yeah, who knows? I thought that TP was talking about a really extreme definition of nice. A lot of people are "nice" if we define it as not being a total dick.

true, i just seems a lot of definiotns are beong thrown around, and alot people seem to think of it as guy, thats just nice. Not funnny, active, charming hes just nice...idk, i just say all you need is confidense:P

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#45 Nikalai_88
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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

[QUOTE="Bardock47"] Well, that does sound boring, I mean I consider myslef a nice guy, and i make jokes that probably do take it to far....is there like a universal definiotn between a dick and nice guy we can use? It seems different people have different defeintions. Whn I say nice guy, i just mena a guy thats generally nice and not a totall dick/.

Bardock47

Yeah, who knows? I thought that TP was talking about a really extreme definition of nice. A lot of people are "nice" if we define it as not being a total dick.

true, i just seems a lot of definiotns are beong thrown around, and alot people seem to think of it as guy, thats just nice. Not funnny, active, charming hes just nice...idk, i just say all you need is confidense:P

Yeah, that's true! But I was also thinking about this situation. Lets say you are working on a toughn work assignment.

Person A is the "nice" guy. After hearing about it he tells you that its going to be fine and thay you can do it! Nothing more you can say. Maybe you even feel like you can't actually "do it".

Person B after hearing about it, asks questions. Like why is it challenging and what problems are you having? Maybe after hearing more about it he can relate it to his own experiences and bring those up. After the conversation he can give you some encouraging remarks based on facts.

Both, Person A and Person B are "nice", the difference is is that Person B is more than that and is not just defined by being "nice".

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#46 CHOASXIII
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Because of the way it is.
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Shіt's retarded.

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#48 ghoklebutter
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Who cares about whether nice guys finish last? Even if it is true that women are only attracted to jerks (which I doubt), I don't care about finishing first. I'd rather be with a woman who loves me for who I am, not because I'm a "bad boy" or a "nice guy." In fact, many "nice" guys aren't as nice as they seem.
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#49 TheWZRD
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Who cares about whether nice guys finish last? Even if it is true that women are only attracted to jerks (which I doubt), I don't care about finishing first. I'd rather be with a woman who loves me for who I am, not because I'm a "bad boy" or a "nice guy." In fact, many "nice" guys aren't as nice as they seem.ghoklebutter
Well said. Hopefully, to all the nice guys out there, will find the woman of their dreams
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#50 CooperThief
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They don't like to finish first and make everyone else feel bad. :cry: