QOTD: Why do nice guys finish last?

Nice guys don't finish last. Needy pushovers who never speak up for themselves or actively go after what they want finish last.

worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Nice guys don't finish last. Needy pushovers who never speak up for themselves or actively go after what they want finish last.

SaudiFury

Yes, I do mean that.

I think that there is a lot of truth to the idea. In my experience it comes down to the people around the "nice guy" being unethical, dishonest, and inconsiderate. I've found that most people don't meet my ethical standards in most areas. That's not to condemn everyone, but I'm just saying that I wouldn't feel good about myself doing things the way they do.

Nice guys don't finish last. Needy pushovers who never speak up for themselves or actively go after what they want finish last.

worlock77

Because they save the worst for last?

Honestly, a lot of nice guys are just whiny b!tches that complain about other people and females on Facebook about not getting any. That is why they finish last, cause they don't blame themselves but other people. They are not rish takers. Now I consider myself a nice guy. But this is my chart of getting to know me

>First meeting, quiet...can be a "nice guy"

>Get to know me- Start to talk more

>Really get to know me-Jerk

>Become a friend to me>A full blown douchebag

But honestly I consider myself one anyway so maybe that is just me. I'm kinda shy...sucks to be introverted.

Honestly, a lot of nice guys are just whiny b!tches that complain about other people and females on Facebook about not getting any. That is why they finish last, cause they don't blame themselves but other people. They are not rish takers. Now I consider myself a nice guy. But this is my chart of getting to know me

>First meeting, quiet...can be a "nice guy"

>Get to know me- Start to talk more

>Really get to know me-Jerk

>Become a friend to me>A full blown douchebag

But honestly I consider myself one anyway so maybe that is just me. I'm kinda shy...sucks to be introverted.

MgamerBD

I think many "nice guys" take issue with what they think they need to do to succeed, whether it be career-wise or relationship-wise. I've been in this boat many times. It was never about being nice per se; it was more about "following the rules/law" and "being ethical". It doesn't help if they've hadn't had a good upbringing, are inherently emotionally sensitive, and/or have frequent bouts of depression. It just makes standing up and being confident that much harder.

I think most "nice guys" who find themselves consistently down on their luck fit at least some of these criteria.

http://www.yourtango.com/experts/lucia/12-reasons-women-can-t-stand-nice-guys.CptJSparrow

This is real talk right here. Problem with most nice guys they got no balls and won't put a woman in her place. The man is the head of the house and the last word he sets the trends. Nice guys on some think about the female and forgot they are the boss.

No, weak guys who lack assertiveness and balls finish last. Sometimes jerks join them.

Nice guys always win. The cunning , The over smart always lose in the end.

indzman

Nice guys dont finish last. It's just that many people who are perceived to be "nice" are just spineless, anxiety laden, socially awkward people who hide behind the title of "nice". I know plenty of confident, nice people who do just well. But if you sit back on your heels and are afraid to take the initiative, you will always finish last. "Nice" guys finish last because they do nothing to finish first. They see a woman they like and never do anything about it. Newsflash. She's not going to ask you out, if you want her, ask her.

sonicare

Harsh but very true.

People who are awful to guys but "nice" to girls in order to bed them are technically not nice guys :lol:

Also, i've deduced that "nice guy" is girl code for "i'm not sexually attracted to him in any way but i'm not mean enough to push him out of my life".

I think.

B!tch please, you don't have to be nice, you just gotta be forward and confident about what you want.

You don't have to be a 'bad boy', just be assertive and don't bs yourself or the girl you go after. imo the women who go for the bad boy are not worth my time.

B!tch please, you don't have to be nice, you just gotta be forward and confident about what you want.

You don't have to be a 'bad boy', just be assertive and don't bs yourself or the girl you go after. imo the women who go for the bad boy are not worth my time.

supa_badman

What we nice guys resort to, it hurts us too.

A balance of badassery and niceness helps.

So spiderman pretty much

nice guys finish last, but bad women come first

Even if you're a nice guy and you assert yourself, if you're not "cool" and a suave talker, girls won't take a second glance at you.

Even if you're a nice guy and you assert yourself, if you're not "cool" and a suave talker, girls won't take a second glance at you.

MirkoS77

Meh...girls are overrated and half the time more trouble than they are worth. Single is the way to go :Pcell_dweller

Assuming nice doesn't mean "sucker", nice guys don't have to finish last.

Even if you're a nice guy and you assert yourself, if you're not "cool" and a suave talker, girls won't take a second glance at you.

MirkoS77

Not true at all.

Yeah nice guys finish last.

Awesome guys (like me) finish on her face.

What we nice guys resort to, it hurts us too.

coolbeans90

Also, i've deduced that "nice guy" is girl code for "i'm not sexually attracted to him in any way but i'm not mean enough to push him out of my life".

Ilovegames1992

That usually seems to be the case, actually.

[QUOTE="-Toshy-"][QUOTE="NiKva"]Of doesn't start with "T" and The doesn't start with "O"NiKva

I believe that being nice is what makes some people loose. I believe this world was not built by nice people. You have to be bad in some way or screw someone in order to get where you want or what you want. I'm always arguing this with those I know.

What we nice guys resort to, it hurts us too.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

Even if you're a nice guy and you assert yourself, if you're not "cool" and a suave talker, girls won't take a second glance at you.

worlock77

Not true at all.

Somewhat true.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

Even if you're a nice guy and you assert yourself, if you're not "cool" and a suave talker, girls won't take a second glance at you.

MirkoS77

Not true at all.

Somewhat true.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Nice guys dont finish last. It's just that many people who are perceived to be "nice" are just spineless, anxiety laden, socially awkward people who hide behind the title of "nice". I know plenty of confident, nice people who do just well. But if you sit back on your heels and are afraid to take the initiative, you will always finish last. "Nice" guys finish last because they do nothing to finish first. They see a woman they like and never do anything about it. Newsflash. She's not going to ask you out, if you want her, ask her.

MirkoS77

Harsh but very true.

+1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fz3zFqLc3E Nice guys finish last that's why you gotta treat 'em like trash. ;)

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Not true at all.

Victorious_Fize

Somewhat true.

No, not true at all. Unless, maybe, by "girls" you mean extremely shallow and immature females.

They lack assertiveness.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

Somewhat true.

worlock77

No, not true at all. Unless, maybe, by "girls" you mean extremely shallow and immature females.

Youth is immaturity. Youth is also fine. Now you can be confident and assertive and know what you want, but immaturity prefers its own company.....young, arrogant, douchebag, immature guys. It's really only compatible with it. It sucks as by the time many women grow and wisen up to be able to truly appreciate a confident man, they are used up. I'm not talking early highschool girls here, but late HS/college years. I'm sure you're face-palming and shaking your head, yea I'm jaded. Well whatever. How I see it anyway.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No, not true at all. Unless, maybe, by "girls" you mean extremely shallow and immature females.

MirkoS77

Not necessarily, and I agree with worlock. Speaking from personal experience, it takes a very stupid (and I don't use that word loosely) and superficial woman to do that whole "I only go with kewl guys and hot men with muscles!" (which is enormously different from having high standards) and no-one really wants to be with them for anything other than a one-night stand.

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Nice guys dont finish last. It's just that many people who are perceived to be "nice" are just spineless, anxiety laden, socially awkward people who hide behind the title of "nice". I know plenty of confident, nice people who do just well. But if you sit back on your heels and are afraid to take the initiative, you will always finish last. "Nice" guys finish last because they do nothing to finish first. They see a woman they like and never do anything about it. Newsflash. She's not going to ask you out, if you want her, ask her.

PiscesChick93

Harsh but very true.

+1

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

No, not true at all. Unless, maybe, by "girls" you mean extremely shallow and immature females.

Spitfirer

Not necessarily, and I agree with worlock. Speaking from personal experience, it takes a very stupid (and I don't use that word loosely) and superficial woman to do that whole "I only go with kewl guys and hot men with muscles!" (which is enormously different from having high standards) and no-one really wants to be with them for anything other than a one-night stand.

Isn't that what many guys are talking about when they say "finish last"? Not getting laid? And to get laid by hot young chicks, you need to be immature as well.

[QUOTE="Spitfirer"]

[QUOTE="MirkoS77"]Yea, but those are the smoking hot ones. :DMirkoS77

Not necessarily, and I agree with worlock. Speaking from personal experience, it takes a very stupid (and I don't use that word loosely) and superficial woman to do that whole "I only go with kewl guys and hot men with muscles!" (which is enormously different from having high standards) and no-one really wants to be with them for anything other than a one-night stand.

Isn't that what many guys are talking about when they say "finish last"? Not getting laid? And to get laid by hot young chicks, you need to be immature as well.