Did Alfred use the Pearls to track Bruce down at the cafe? Did everyone else take it this way?
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[QUOTE="Truf89"]No it was a coincidence.skingusPlease be sarcasm... Closer to that than Alfred tracking him down ( I remember the pearls now, didn't think they had any place in the ending). Most likely is that Bruce knew where Alfred would be and showed up as a thank you to him.
[QUOTE="skingus"][QUOTE="Truf89"]No it was a coincidence.lx_theoPlease be sarcasm... Closer to that than Alfred tracking him down ( I remember the pearls now, didn't think they had any place in the ending). Most likely is that Bruce knew where Alfred would be and showed up as a thank you to him. ^This.
Bruce took the pearls back from Selina. They are never seen again (I think). I highly dout he collected them from his Manor before confronting Bane
Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
First, it's not in Bruce's character to just let Alfred feel that bad for so long, and Alfred didn't seem completely surprised when he looked up and saw them. He was looking for him. I think that Alfred at least had a hunch that Bruce was alive, before the cafe.My interpretation: Alfred thought Bruce was dead, he goes on vacation (which he established earlier), and they just happen to see each other. The end.
kingdre
I really don't like the fact that the trilogy ended with Bruce completely broke. Bruce Wayne is a BILLIONAIRE! A BALLER! Not a bum. Not cool.
Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot.Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
BossPerson
Didn't Wayne's money end up in Alfred's hands? If that was the case he didn't end up broke.I really don't like the fact that the trilogy ended with Bruce completely broke. Bruce Wayne is a BILLIONAIRE! A BALLER! Not a bum. Not cool.
BluRayHiDef
it is strange that he just accepted that those trades were executed illegally and was just like "meh"..I really don't like the fact that the trilogy ended with Bruce completely broke. Bruce Wayne is a BILLIONAIRE! A BALLER! Not a bum. Not cool.
BluRayHiDef
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot.Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
YoshiYogurt
I highly doubt that the distance between Batman and the Bat would become great enough within the span of five seconds for Batman to escape the blast radius of an ATOM BOMB!
Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot.[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
BluRayHiDef
I highly doubt that the distance between Batman and the Bat would become great enough within the span of five seconds for Batman to escape the blast radius of an ATOM BOMB!
maybe the escape pod was a submarine.. he wouldn't need to be too far underwater to escape the affects of the blast.. and it was a neutron bomb ( hydrogen as opposed to atomic )[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]it is strange that he just accepted that those trades were executed illegally and was just like "meh"..I really don't like the fact that the trilogy ended with Bruce completely broke. Bruce Wayne is a BILLIONAIRE! A BALLER! Not a bum. Not cool.
comp_atkins
That's because for Bruce, it's not about the money. Bruce isn't shallow. With that said, I'm still bothered by the fact that he went broke. Not cool. I wish Nolan would have revealed that he had a good amount of money (hundreds of millions) stashed in foreign accounts. That would make me feel better.
Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot.[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
BluRayHiDef
I highly doubt that the distance between Batman and the Bat would become great enough within the span of five seconds for Batman to escape the blast radius of an ATOM BOMB!
Maybe by the time he escaped the bomb fell in the water, that stops the effects of the bomb dramatically.[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot. comp_atkins
I highly doubt that the distance between Batman and the Bat would become great enough within the span of five seconds for Batman to escape the blast radius of an ATOM BOMB!
maybe the escape pod was a submarine.. he wouldn't need to be too far underwater to escape the affects of the blast..I didn't know that water could protect someone from the explosion of an atom bomb (not being sarcastic); I'll look into that. On a slightly different note, I don't even think that 1.5 minutes is enough time for the Bat to get far enough from the city to prevent it from being affected by the blast. I know that Nolan chose that amount of time to create a feeling of suspense, but I wish it would have been five minutes.
Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
BossPerson
TDK was even worse but people ignore those gigantic flaws.
The thing is, like mentioned above, Alfred didn't seem to be too surprised, to either he knew Bruce was alive or he expected him to be there. After believing Bruce was dead and then not being surprised at all when seeing him alive and well would seem a little mean towards Alfred.... IMO.DeadMan1290All Alfred ever wanted for Bruce was happiness. Knowing Bruce for so long, and knowing his penchant for theatrics, he may have begun to suspect Bruce survived the explosion (especially given how Selina wasn't at Bruce's "funeral" either). It's not something you should think too much into, because it was left ambiguous. It was left to make you ask questions about the future.
With that said, I'm still bothered by the fact that he went broke. Not cool. I wish Nolan would have revealed that he had a good amount of money (hundreds of millions) stashed in foreign accounts. That would make me feel better.BluRayHiDefYou are aware that Bruce never cared about money, right? His "rich playboy" persona was just a ruse to protect his identity as Batman. He was a man of justice and philanthropy at heart, and once Batman "died", his need for money disappeared. He wanted a simple future with Selina.
In certain scenes, did Bane's deep, monotone voice remind anyone of Darth Vader? In the scene in which he kills Daggett, his voice and his physical presence (he towers over Daggett) are so reminiscent of Darth Vader.
maybe the escape pod was a submarine.. he wouldn't need to be too far underwater to escape the affects of the blast..[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
I highly doubt that the distance between Batman and the Bat would become great enough within the span of five seconds for Batman to escape the blast radius of an ATOM BOMB!
BluRayHiDef
I didn't know that water could protect someone from the explosion of an atom bomb (not being sarcastic); I'll look into that. On a slightly different note, I don't even think that 1.5 minutes is enough time for the Bat to get far enough from the city to prevent it from being affected by the blast. I know that Nolan chose that amount of time to create a feeling of suspense, but I wish it would have been five minutes.
iirc they said the blast radius was in the 6 mile range.. so his aircraft would have to be flying at at around 270-300mph to escape fully.. didn't seem like it was that fast, though it could keep pace with a missle on it's ass..Oh definitely. Throughout the entire movie I felt Bane was like a ripped Darth Vader doing a Sean Connery impression.In certain scenes, did Bane's deep, monotone voice remind anyone of Darth Vader? In the scene in which he kills Daggett, his voice and his physical presence (he towers over Daggett) are so reminiscent of Darth Vader.
BluRayHiDef
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] maybe the escape pod was a submarine.. he wouldn't need to be too far underwater to escape the affects of the blast..comp_atkins
I didn't know that water could protect someone from the explosion of an atom bomb (not being sarcastic); I'll look into that. On a slightly different note, I don't even think that 1.5 minutes is enough time for the Bat to get far enough from the city to prevent it from being affected by the blast. I know that Nolan chose that amount of time to create a feeling of suspense, but I wish it would have been five minutes.
iirc they said the blast radius was in the 6 mile range.. so his aircraft would have to be flying at at around 270-300mph to escape fully.. didn't seem like it was that fast, though it could keep pace with a missle on it's ass..I guess it's just another one of the mistakes in the writing.
I definitely think the ending was left open to some interpretation. You, the viewer, can take the story on from hereskingusI agree wholeheartedly. And that is one thing I enjoyed about Rises, and enjoy about fictional media in general. All I listed was only ever my interpretation, and people can take it merely for what it is.
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]Oh definitely. Throughout the entire movie I felt Bane was like a ripped Darth Vader doing a Sean Connery impression.In certain scenes, did Bane's deep, monotone voice remind anyone of Darth Vader? In the scene in which he kills Daggett, his voice and his physical presence (he towers over Daggett) are so reminiscent of Darth Vader.
megagene
Did you like Bane's performance? I found it a bit awkward at times during my first viewing, but in my subsequent viewings I loved it. He's actually quite funny at times; he's so evil, it's hilarious.
The following is one of my favorite dialogue sequences from the film. It demonstrates just how evil Bane is, and is also quite funny.
Daggett: "Where's Bane?!"
Stryver: "We told him it was urgent."
Daggett: "Ah! Where is that man?!"
Bane: [Suddenly Appears] "Speak of the Devil, and he shall appear."
Daggett: "What the hell is going on?!"
Bane: "Our plan is proceeding as expected."
Daggett: "Oh, really? Do I look like I'm running Wayne Enterprises right now? Your hit on the stock exchange, it didn't work, my friend. And now you have my construction crews going around the city twenty four hours a day. How exactly is that supposed to help my company absorb Wayne's?"
Bane: [To Stryver] "Leave us."
Daggett: "No, you stay here. I'm in charge."
Bane: [Puts his left hand on Daggett's shoulder] "Do you feel in charge?"
Dagett: "I payed you a small fortune."
Bane: "And this gives you power over me?"
Daggett: "What is this?"
Bane: "Your money and infrastructure have been important...'til now!"
Daggett: "What are you?"
Bane: "I'm Gotham's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on."
Daggett: "You're...evil."
Bane: "I'm necessary evil." [Grabs Daggett's face and snaps his neck.]
Oh definitely. Throughout the entire movie I felt Bane was like a ripped Darth Vader doing a Sean Connery impression.[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
In certain scenes, did Bane's deep, monotone voice remind anyone of Darth Vader? In the scene in which he kills Daggett, his voice and his physical presence (he towers over Daggett) are so reminiscent of Darth Vader.
BluRayHiDef
Did you like Bane's performance? I found it a bit awkward at times during my first viewing, but in my subsequent viewings I loved it. He's actually quite funny at times; he's so evil, it's hilarious.
The following is one of my favorite dialogue sequences from the film. It demonstrates just how evil Bane is, and is also quite funny.
Daggett: "Where's Bane?!"
Stryver: "We told him it was urgent."
Daggett: "Ah! Where is that man?!"
Bane: [Suddenly Appears] "Speak of the Devil, and he shall appear."
Daggett: "What the hell is going on?!"
Bane: "Our plan is proceeding as expected."
Daggett: "Oh, really? Do I look like I'm running Wayne Enterprises right now? Your hit on the stock exchange, it didn't work, my friend. And now you have my construction crews going around the city twenty four hours a day. How exactly is that supposed to help my company absorb Wayne's?"
Bane: [To Stryver] "Leave us."
Daggett: "No, you stay here. I'm in charge."
Bane: [Puts his left hand on Daggett's shoulder] "Do you feel in charge?"
Dagett: "I payed you a small fortune."
Bane: "And this gives you power over me?"
Daggett: "What is this?"
Bane: "Your money and infrastructure have been important...'til now!"
Daggett: "What are you?"
Bane: "I'm Gotham's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on."
Daggett: "You're...evil."
Bane: "I'm necessary evil." [Grabs Daggett's face and snaps his neck.]
You either have good memory or you've seen this somewhere online lol. I do remember those scenes though. And I think Tom Hardy was great.Oh definitely. Throughout the entire movie I felt Bane was like a ripped Darth Vader doing a Sean Connery impression.[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
In certain scenes, did Bane's deep, monotone voice remind anyone of Darth Vader? In the scene in which he kills Daggett, his voice and his physical presence (he towers over Daggett) are so reminiscent of Darth Vader.
BluRayHiDef
Did you like Bane's performance? I found it a bit awkward at times during my first viewing, but in my subsequent viewings I loved it. He's actually quite funny at times; he's so evil, it's hilarious.
The following is one of my favorite dialogue sequences from the film. It demonstrates just how evil Bane is, and is also quite funny.
Daggett: "Where's Bane?!"
Stryver: "We told him it was urgent."
Daggett: "Ah! Where is that man?!"
Bane: [Suddenly Appears] "Speak of the Devil, and he shall appear."
Daggett: "What the hell is going on?!"
Bane: "Our plan is proceeding as expected."
Daggett: "Oh, really? Do I look like I'm running Wayne Enterprises right now? Your hit on the stock exchange, it didn't work, my friend. And now you have my construction crews going around the city twenty four hours a day. How exactly is that supposed to help my company absorb Wayne's?"
Bane: [To Stryver] "Leave us."
Daggett: "No, you stay here. I'm in charge."
Bane: [Puts his left hand on Daggett's shoulder] "Do you feel in charge?"
Dagett: "I payed you a small fortune."
Bane: "And this gives you power over me?"
Daggett: "What is this?"
Bane: "Your money and infrastructure have been important...'til now!"
Daggett: "What are you?"
Bane: "I'm Gotham's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on."
Daggett: "You're...evil."
Bane: "I'm necessary evil." [Grabs Daggett's face and snaps his neck.]
I really liked Bane a lot. I wasn't one of the people going into the movie being skeptical about the casting of Hardy as Bane though. He had an incredible ominous presence. Definitely one of my favorite movie villains of late.Bane talked like a stereotypical 18th century British lord. His speech was straight out of Monty Python.
Baranga
LOL.
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="megagene"] Oh definitely. Throughout the entire movie I felt Bane was like a ripped Darth Vader doing a Sean Connery impression. DeadMan1290
Did you like Bane's performance? I found it a bit awkward at times during my first viewing, but in my subsequent viewings I loved it. He's actually quite funny at times; he's so evil, it's hilarious.
The following is one of my favorite dialogue sequences from the film. It demonstrates just how evil Bane is, and is also quite funny.
Daggett: "Where's Bane?!"
Stryver: "We told him it was urgent."
Daggett: "Ah! Where is that man?!"
Bane: [Suddenly Appears] "Speak of the Devil, and he shall appear."
Daggett: "What the hell is going on?!"
Bane: "Our plan is proceeding as expected."
Daggett: "Oh, really? Do I look like I'm running Wayne Enterprises right now? Your hit on the stock exchange, it didn't work, my friend. And now you have my construction crews going around the city twenty four hours a day. How exactly is that supposed to help my company absorb Wayne's?"
Bane: [To Stryver] "Leave us."
Daggett: "No, you stay here. I'm in charge."
Bane: [Puts his left hand on Daggett's shoulder] "Do you feel in charge?"
Dagett: "I payed you a small fortune."
Bane: "And this gives you power over me?"
Daggett: "What is this?"
Bane: "Your money and infrastructure have been important...'til now!"
Daggett: "What are you?"
Bane: "I'm Gotham's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time you've all been living on."
Daggett: "You're...evil."
Bane: "I'm necessary evil." [Grabs Daggett's face and snaps his neck.]
You either have good memory or you've seen this somewhere online lol. I do remember those scenes though. And I think Tom Hardy was great.An online source.
I serioulsy thought at the beginning it was Liam Neeson, the voice was similar... Then I was like, weird..... It's Bane!
I serioulsy thought at the beginning it was Liam Neeson, the voice was similar... Then I was like, weird..... It's Bane!
DeadMan1290
That was probably done on purpose because Bane was trained by Ra's Al Ghul. Perhaps during the years of training, he picked up Ra's Al Ghul's accent.
[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]
I serioulsy thought at the beginning it was Liam Neeson, the voice was similar... Then I was like, weird..... It's Bane!
BluRayHiDef
That was probably done on purpose because Bane was trained by Ra's Al Ghul. Perhaps during the years of training, he picked up Ra's Al Ghul's accent.
My thoughts exactly when everything was explained later. Also, Ghul's daughter being the one who escaped and not Bane, I was confused lol. Awesome movie. One thing though, can you explain what happened to Bane's face when the girl escaped and he was being mauled by the other prisoners?[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]
I serioulsy thought at the beginning it was Liam Neeson, the voice was similar... Then I was like, weird..... It's Bane!
DeadMan1290
That was probably done on purpose because Bane was trained by Ra's Al Ghul. Perhaps during the years of training, he picked up Ra's Al Ghul's accent.
My thoughts exactly when everything was explained later. Also, Ghul's daughter being the one who escaped and not Bane, I was confused lol. Awesome movie. One thing though, can you explain what happened to Bane's face when the girl escaped and he was being mauled by the other prisoners?Like other things in the film, that's up for interpretation. It was obviously some type of trauma (bruises, lacerations, severe facial deformity, etc). However, it wasn't the injuries he sustained from the beating that required him to wear the mask, but the bootleg surgery he underwent at the hands of the prison's "doctor". That "doctor" did something that made things worse and induced a chronic, incurable pain that requires him to have a constant supply of painkillers (analgesic).
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Ejection port? 5 seconds seems reasonable time to fly out, WHILE the batwing or whatever is continuing to fly on autopilot. Ok, so he escaped 5 seconds before detonation? Does the suit have some sort of anti-nuclear blast properties? He would have to travel 6 MILES to safety from the blast. And assume he ejected much before that, Nolan cheated in the editing when he showed Batman as if he was in the ship the whole time.Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
YoshiYogurt
Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.
Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.
It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.
BossPerson
Did you see Bruce in the BAT? No. We saw a shot of Batman, then a shot of a timer. Whether they were at the same location is unknown. Probably not, in my opinion Bruce was in an escape pod or whatever. We know the autopilot worked and he used it. Does Work.
Was I the only one that thought Talia's death was hilarious? It was the most unintentional hilarious moment in the movie for me. But anyway, I loved this movie!
I thought it was poorly acted out; I hated it. It was so phony. To think that the actress who portrayed Talia was too bad of an actress to act out the character's death convincingly or that Christopher Nolan couldn't direct her well is disappointing for a film of this calibur.Was I the only one that thought Talia's death was hilarious? It was the most unintentional hilarious moment in the movie for me. But anyway, I loved this movie!
djshowstopper87
Ok, so he escaped 5 seconds before detonation? Does the suit have some sort of anti-nuclear blast properties? He would have to travel 6 MILES to safety from the blast. And assume he ejected much before that, Nolan cheated in the editing when he showed Batman as if he was in the ship the whole time. BossPerson
The blast took place a lot longer than when he ejected from the plane. They just went to the the time of when the blast happened after showing him. I think someone also brought up in another thread that when they last showed him, he was still fairly close to the island, so the blast didnt occur right after he was ejected. When they cut to someone right after him, around a minute had gone by already in the film.
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