"women belong in the kitchen" where did thaat ideology come from?

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#51 LikeHaterade
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Didn't Crushmaster honestly believe in this?

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#52 II_Seraphim_II
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lol, I was just watching Hell's Kitchen and the women won they day off while they guys stayed home and ironed clothes. Anyway, the girls came back and started laughing at the guys and one of the guys said "Hey, why don't you go back to the kitchen and cook us some food like you're supposed to?" lol, she got so pissed off :lol:
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#53 Dante2710
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a women out of the kitchen? whats next? voting? driving? insane!!!!! jk :P and im sure its meant to be taken as a joke;p but i guess most females wouldnt find the joke pleasant
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#54 get-ka12
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I actually don't like the joke at all. It's pretty sexist.
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#55 CoreyNT
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[QUOTE="bobaban"]Because thats how women can feed their children while the men make money for the food, shelter, etc. Well that's the way its been since the dawn of man. Things have only changed within the past 100 years. AlphaRail
Not totally 100%, there have definentily been some societies/religions that give women equal rights..although that is not always followed and is "changed", but the original beliefs say about women being equal. Such as the Koran, Muhammad's original followers were mostly women because of the ideals told to him. Also Buddhism called for equality, but that wasn't as much as the Koran called for...

For example, in Ancient mesopotamia. Women had basic rights and stuff, whereas in other parts they were cooks and sex slaves. Essentially.
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#56 JigglyWiggly_
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How can you blame them?
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#57 D-RS
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It's nothing but a joke , well at least your lucky you aren't in The Arab world (excluding Lebanon) , most women are treated like **** their , They are only used for sex , Caring for children , and Making food , nothing else , in Pakistan your allowed to rape your wife come on, in Saudi arabia the women can't testify against rape unless they have 3 witnesses (all Male) , i am embarrassed to be an arab ( i am lebanese )
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#58 SapSacPrime
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I have never agreed with this notion, I can cook for myself thank you get your arse back in the bed room :twisted:.

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#59 Bourbons3
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It probably came from men who felt threatened by women :o
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#60 Stumpt25
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You shouldn't be on Gamespot... Go back to the kitchen.
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#61 Kenny789
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I love this thread because of the funny videos and pics :lol: Though I kinda feel bad for laughing :P
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#62 Barbariser
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It's a huge massive joke....

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#63 poptart
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My girlfriend earns far more than I do - It'll be me who ends up in the kitchen. Not that I'm so bad a cook mind you...

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#64 Brainkiller05
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because when a man and a woman had a baby the mother would stay at home and take care of the kid and the guy would go out and work.
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The ideology arrived from truth.. You know where to go.

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#66 Ghost_702
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I agree with some others in how in the past, women were thought of as lesser beings than men and thus took care of the cleaning and cooking while the men went and hunted and crafted weaponry/structures. Some people I guess still believe that women don't have the ability to get as far as men in the work place, when they can (although there is the "glass ceiling" which I'm not going to get into here).
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ok, i was posting on gamefaqs (probably a big mistkae right there) and when i ask a qustion or comment or anything, sometimes people respond with insulting things, one of which is like "women belong in the kitchen" and that i should always be in the kitchen

where did that stuipd ideology originate from? that is so wrong, ugh; this is a dumb way of thinking, absurd

i find that a bit insulting that they would think i have to always be in the kitchen seriously

where did this trend orginate?

KittyHeart
Men just say it so woman can be reminded of the menfolk's limited capacity for observation, and have a good laugh at their narrow-minded ignorance. :) Honesty, men can't even feed themselves! It's true!
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#68 dramaybaz
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where did this trend orginate?

KittyHeart
It originated in the kitchen.
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#69 STAR_Admiral
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I personally dont see anything unequal between a husband who has a job and a housewife. Both can vote and express their opinions, they just have different jobs, while still being equal.
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#70 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="KittyHeart"]

where did this trend orginate?

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It originated in the kitchen.

LMFAO!!!! Oh man, thats awesome :lol:
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Because in the mid-1900s, women weren't expected to work jobs, instead maintain the home and take care of children.

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This.
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#72 tofu-lion91
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where did this trend orginate?KittyHeart

From the heart :oops:

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#73 OrianaDorta
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It was a fact a long long time ago. Now is just a joke to make men feel better when they're cooking for their wives.

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#74 skrat_01
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Sexist joke, referencing back to this -

Because in the mid-1900s, women weren't expected to work jobs, instead maintain the home and take care of children.

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#75 lynxed
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ok, i was posting on gamefaqs (probably a big mistkae right there) and when i ask a qustion or comment or anything, sometimes people respond with insulting things, one of which is like "women belong in the kitchen" and that i should always be in the kitchen

where did that stuipd ideology originate from? that is so wrong, ugh; this is a dumb way of thinking, absurd

i find that a bit insulting that they would think i have to always be in the kitchen seriously

where did this trend orginate?

KittyHeart

From exasperated people who don't want to see any more idiotic girl gamers who think that their value is somehow boosted by gomg "well omg I'm a girl and I play GAMES what do you think of THAT lol!!!! IM SO COOL AND UNIQUE (except not because 94281029412 girls play games)" Most people voted for imprisonment, but it was a nicer alternative to put those people in the kitchen where they at least have access to food. This is not rage directed at op, who is obviously a girl who games, but seems simply clueless rather than suffering from self-valuation fail. I like meeting other girls who game, because it gives me something in common with them, but so many are self-absorbed fanfic/fangirl types or are very proud of themselves for playing games. Hoping this changes as I age, and it's gotten better since when I was 12, but still, people leave a lot to be desired.

Also, op, maybe if you didn't have the name "KittyHeart" and have sparkly pink icons, you wouldn't get those sorts of comments. Most people assume I'm a guy, despite the fact that I play stereotypical girl games like JRPGs and action/adventure and Mario rather than shooters.

Edit: My guy friend came up w/ a response to people who say GB2K (go back to kitchen) based on traditional gender roles: tell guys to go back to the (salt/coal/diamond/whatever you fancy) mines. Who's better off, then?

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I personally dont see anything unequal between a husband who has a job and a housewife. Both can vote and express their opinions, they just have different jobs, while still being equal.STAR_Admiral
It's not like the roles cannot be switched, either. I don't see what's the big deal here.
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#77 Code-Llama
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It all started back when. They probably say that as a joke though.. People who still believe that ideology were probably taught stupid stuff from their old parents..
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Batman Beyond

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Oh god. Win.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Batman Beyond

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Oh god. Win.

I second this. :lol:

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#80 bigblunt537
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It came from our great great great great great x 20 ancestor that was a caveman and forced the women to get our food or she got clobbered by his caveman club.

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Because even back in jesus times women were expected to maintain the household and men were breadwinners. The mentality kept passing down and is now being broken somewhat.

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#82 RushMetallica
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[QUOTE="awsss"]

In nature, the men go out and work (male lions hunting, for example), while the women (with humans, the women have the children, breastfeed the children, etc) so in the 1930s - 1950s this extended to everything: chores/kids are the womens job, work is the mens job. It's outdated and is more of a stereotype, often used in a humorous way. The basis makes sense though: the women are the ones who aren't as physically strong, are the ones who get pregnant and have breasts, so it makes more sense for them to stay home with the kids. The men are physically stronger so its more naturally for them to be out "hunting". Though that's obviously not the case anymore.

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Female lions do the hunting.

Female mosquitos are the only ones that suck blood as well.
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#83 Baconbits2004
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Most of the time, it's just people trying to have fun with ya, as I'm sure you've seen in this thread. O.o Personally, I do find some of these things kinda funny, but I rarely ever make any type of joke like that. Because I find all the male oriented jokes quite annoying...
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Because even back in jesus times women were expected to maintain the household and men were breadwinners. The mentality kept passing down and is now being broken somewhat.

Espada12
I also personally dont see anything unequal about that. One person taking care of the home and the other going to make the money is not unequal at all. If you consider it unequal then you are making the flawed assumption that somehow "working in a mine or factory" is superior to "cooking, cleaning, etc". Women do deserve the right to vote and to express opinions and to have rights. But i really dont see anything unequal about a husband going to work and a wife doing the work of the home.
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ok, i was posting on gamefaqs (probably a big mistkae right there) and when i ask a qustion or comment or anything, sometimes people respond with insulting things, one of which is like "women belong in the kitchen" and that i should always be in the kitchen

where did that stuipd ideology originate from? that is so wrong, ugh; this is a dumb way of thinking, absurd

i find that a bit insulting that they would think i have to always be in the kitchen seriously

where did this trend orginate?

KittyHeart
the idea been around for ages it hasn't been until the last 80 years or so that women started to gain rights and independence it was always believed the wife stays home,cooks and cares for the kids- I like cooking though lol it just takes up to much time
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Because even back in jesus times women were expected to maintain the household and men were breadwinners. The mentality kept passing down and is now being broken somewhat.

STAR_Admiral

I also personally dont see anything unequal about that. One person taking care of the home and the other going to make the money is not unequal at all. If you consider it unequal then you are making the flawed assumption that somehow "working in a mine or factory" is superior to "cooking, cleaning, etc". Women do deserve the right to vote and to express opinions and to have rights. But i really dont see anything unequal about a husband going to work and a wife doing the work of the home.

The main problem with everything is that women don't want to be oppressed into certain roles or left out of certain things but yet some of them still want preferential treatment. You can only have one or the other, not both. As I always say.. if you want to be treated equally, want to be treated equally in all aspects.

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[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]I personally dont see anything unequal between a husband who has a job and a housewife. Both can vote and express their opinions, they just have different jobs, while still being equal.ghoklebutter
It's not like the roles cannot be switched, either. I don't see what's the big deal here.

To be honest, when I get married I would love to have a wife who works while I take care of the kids at home. I think that would be so much fun, I like kids :D
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Because even back in jesus times women were expected to maintain the household and men were breadwinners. The mentality kept passing down and is now being broken somewhat.

STAR_Admiral

I also personally dont see anything unequal about that. One person taking care of the home and the other going to make the money is not unequal at all. If you consider it unequal then you are making the flawed assumption that somehow "working in a mine or factory" is superior to "cooking, cleaning, etc". Women do deserve the right to vote and to express opinions and to have rights. But i really dont see anything unequal about a husband going to work and a wife doing the work of the home.

Because its a role that if the woman didn't agree with, they would be persecuted.. The caretaker also had no where near the rights, as well as the say in the family.. If its her choice to stay home, good for her.. But in earlier times it was expected of the woman to always do that.

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What are you doing on the internet

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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]I personally dont see anything unequal between a husband who has a job and a housewife. Both can vote and express their opinions, they just have different jobs, while still being equal.II_Seraphim_II
It's not like the roles cannot be switched, either. I don't see what's the big deal here.

To be honest, when I get married I would love to have a wife who works while I take care of the kids at home. I think that would be so much fun, I like kids :D

I personally would prefer if my future wife does not work. Its nothing against women and careers, i just want a woman who takes care of her kids, so that the kids are raised well and spend time with their parents instead of a daycare. if there was no need for money, I would stay home too, but someone has to support the family.
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What are you doing on the internet

coolnessmancool

WHAT ABOUT THE FOOD! its breakfast time! goddammit!

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#92 Sajedene
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I like being in the kitchen - apron and heels with dinner waiting for the mister to come home .... mmm the mess one can make.
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#93 bigblunt537
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I like being in the kitchen - apron and heels with dinner waiting for the mister to come home .... mmm the mess one can make.Sajedene

You just got me excited lets keep this forum rated E. On topic what are you doing online? "Get back to the kitchen"

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Suprisingly it used to be an american tradition. Most woman were not even allowed to go to college in the early 1900's. Things are different now.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like being in the kitchen - apron and heels with dinner waiting for the mister to come home .... mmm the mess one can make.bigblunt537

You just got me excited lets keep this forum rated E. On topic what are you doing online? "Get back to the kitchen"

I like cooking - I make a mess. I'll clean it up afterwards. Can you cook?
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like being in the kitchen - apron and heels with dinner waiting for the mister to come home .... mmm the mess one can make.Sajedene

You just got me excited lets keep this forum rated E. On topic what are you doing online? "Get back to the kitchen"

I like cooking - I make a mess. I'll clean it up afterwards. Can you cook?

Actually I cannot cook for my life, but it is something I've always wanted to learn how to do and I will when I move out. My mom doesn't like me attempting to cook in her house. She has a fear that I'll burn the place down or I'll make a mess and wont clean it. Once I'm done with college I'm moving out and I will teach muhself how to cook especially since cooking is awesome.

How about you? do you make anything you or others would consider amazing?

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

You just got me excited lets keep this forum rated E. On topic what are you doing online? "Get back to the kitchen"

bigblunt537

I like cooking - I make a mess. I'll clean it up afterwards. Can you cook?

Actually I cannot cook for my life, but it is something I've always wanted to learn how to do and I will when I move out. My mom doesn't like me attempting to cook in her house. She has a fear that I'll burn the place down or I'll make a mess and wont clean it. Once I'm done with college I'm moving out and I will teach muhself how to cook especially since cooking is awesome.

What about having her help you/teach you how to cook... you gotta start somewhere. Like the proper way to make dishes she makes. Maybe she can have you do the chopping or the marinating but not anything that involves fire yet until she knows youre ready.
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] I like cooking - I make a mess. I'll clean it up afterwards. Can you cook?Sajedene

Actually I cannot cook for my life, but it is something I've always wanted to learn how to do and I will when I move out. My mom doesn't like me attempting to cook in her house. She has a fear that I'll burn the place down or I'll make a mess and wont clean it. Once I'm done with college I'm moving out and I will teach muhself how to cook especially since cooking is awesome.

What about having her help you/teach you how to cook... you gotta start somewhere. Like the proper way to make dishes she makes. Maybe she can have you do the chopping or the marinating but not anything that involves fire yet until she knows youre ready.

LOL when my mom cooks she doesn't want anyone within 10 feet of her. I'll learn 1 day I can probably have my girl teach me, but it'll come in time. If I learn how to cook I'd cook everyday. I already like putting together those easy meals that take 30 min to an hour lol

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ok, i was posting on gamefaqs (probably a big mistkae right there) and when i ask a qustion or comment or anything, sometimes people respond with insulting things, one of which is like "women belong in the kitchen" and that i should always be in the kitchen

where did that stuipd ideology originate from? that is so wrong, ugh; this is a dumb way of thinking, absurd

i find that a bit insulting that they would think i have to always be in the kitchen seriously

where did this trend orginate?

KittyHeart
I think you're using the word "ideology" wrong
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#100 weezyfb
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hunter gatherer societies... men hunted women took care of the kids