Racist bake sale, Pay by race. - CNN

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]I wonder how they would be acting if a group of people came and took over the area where they were having this sale.Bucked20
I don't even know what you're trying to say. What sort of group would "take over" the area?

If its any Native Americans in that college they should of took over there area as a little reminder of what happened to them.

:lol:
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I feel that since whites are often denied scholarships and grants based on their race and given to minorities, they should get the lowest price. *trollface*

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Trollface notwithstanding....

This is going back a bit over 10 years, BUT....

My wife and I were about to start attending the same State University of New York campus. We wanted to see if it was possible for us to attend full time while working (I was able to work night shifts while she would attend at night, and vice versa during the day). So, we made an appointment with the financial aid department.

We both had similar academic backgrounds (same high school with comparable grades). We both had identical financial situations, since we were married. Same household income, obviously. Yet, because she was from South America, the amount of financial aid she was eligable for more than doubled the amount that was available to me.

So, regardless of whether or not people think this type of race-scolarship-financial-aid thing is warranted, the facts are the facts.

thats just like one example man...... i would rather jokingly discount your anecdote than have someone do it with serious intent to raise an argument

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If its any Native Americans in that college they should of took over there area as a little reminder of what happened to them.

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[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] I don't even know what you're trying to say. What sort of group would "take over" the area?Jandurin
If its any Native Americans in that college they should of took over there area as a little reminder of what happened to them.

:lol:

Then poison there cupcakes and give them a disease or 2

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I feel that since whites are often denied scholarships and grants based on their race and given to minorities, they should get the lowest price. *trollface*

Planet_Pluto

Trollface notwithstanding....

This is going back a bit over 10 years, BUT....

My wife and I were about to start attending the same State University of New York campus. We wanted to see if it was possible for us to attend full time while working (I was able to work night shifts while she would attend at night, and vice versa during the day). So, we made an appointment with the financial aid department.

We both had similar academic backgrounds (same high school with comparable grades). We both had identical financial situations, since we were married. Same household income, obviously. Yet, because she was from South America, the amount of financial aid she was eligable for more than doubled the amount that was available to me.

So, regardless of whether or not people think this type of race-scolarship-financial-aid thing is warranted, the facts are the facts.

Trollface was for moderation purposes. I have seen plenty of cases in which a persons race gets them more money from a university.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]I wonder how they would be acting if a group of people came and took over the area where they were having this sale.Bucked20
I don't even know what you're trying to say. What sort of group would "take over" the area?

If its any Native Americans in that college they should of took over there area as a little reminder of what happened to them.

what blood % native would qualify for that right?

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Then poison there cupcakes and give them a few disease or 2

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#58 nintendofreak_2
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So somebody tell me how this isn't a bad thing?

I can only imagine the outrage if the prices were reversed :?

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It's not bad because it's not serious. It is showing how things are set up in grad schools because of affirmitive action still being legal for higher level education.

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Then poison there cupcakes and give them a few disease or 2 Bucked20
seems like drastic measures to get rid of the native americans when there are easier ways
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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

DroidPhysX

Trollface was for moderation purposes.

Understood.

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what blood % native would qualify for that right?

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I could be a Native American. :|

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[QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I feel that since whites are often denied scholarships and grants based on their race and given to minorities, they should get the lowest price. *trollface*

surrealnumber5

Trollface notwithstanding....

This is going back a bit over 10 years, BUT....

My wife and I were about to start attending the same State University of New York campus. We wanted to see if it was possible for us to attend full time while working (I was able to work night shifts while she would attend at night, and vice versa during the day). So, we made an appointment with the financial aid department.

We both had similar academic backgrounds (same high school with comparable grades). We both had identical financial situations, since we were married. Same household income, obviously. Yet, because she was from South America, the amount of financial aid she was eligable for more than doubled the amount that was available to me.

So, regardless of whether or not people think this type of race-scolarship-financial-aid thing is warranted, the facts are the facts.

thats just like one example man...... i would rather jokingly discount your anecdote than have someone do it with serious intent to raise an argument

I can say with all sincerity, that both my wife and I will never forget that meeting. It literally was one of the biggest lessons we had learned (in life up to that point, anyway).

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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Then poison there cupcakes and give them a few disease or 2 Jandurin
seems like drastic measures to get rid of the native americans when there are easier ways

give them rights to build casinos where no others can so they dont need to go to college?

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didn't John Stossel do something like this?ZumaJones07
Yes he did.
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A humorous, simple, and direct way of getting your point across. I like it.

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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Then poison there cupcakes and give them a few disease or 2 Jandurin
seems like drastic measures to get rid of the native americans when there are easier ways

Now you know Im not talking about ways to get rid of Native Americans
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Funny how people react when others challenge their privilege. Affirmative Action exists to counter the discrimination that is inherent in a patriarchal, heteronormative, WASP-dominant society. It is an attempt to put minorities on an equal footing with majorities, and is currently is the best system we can employ. Socioeconomic status is an entirely different issue that has different solutions unrelated to Affirmative Action. People act as though discrimination is no longer an issue, when it is actually a huge factor that affects all minorities, and thus solutions must be used to counter the discrimination.
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I would just have my girlfriend buy mine for me. I knew interracial relationships were good for something other than pretty babies!

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I appreciate the point they're trying to make, but I'm not sure they're going about it in the right way.

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I appreciate the point they're trying to make, but I'm not sure they're going about it in the right way.

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What is wrong about the way they did it? What alternative methods would you say are right?

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I appreciate the point they're trying to make, but I'm not sure they're going about it in the right way.

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can you think of a better way?

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Funny how people react when others challenge their privilege. Affirmative Action exists to counter the discrimination that is inherent in a patriarchal, heteronormative, WASP-dominant society. It is an attempt to put minorities on an equal footing with majorities, and is currently is the best system we can employ. Socioeconomic status is an entirely different issue that has different solutions unrelated to Affirmative Action. People act as though discrimination is no longer an issue, when it is actually a huge factor that affects all minorities, and thus solutions must be used to counter the discrimination. ShuLordLiuPei

Affirmative action does none of those things. All it does is make race a bigger issue than it really is. I'm sure there are people out there who are racists and discriminate, but I think the vast majority of America doesn't. That's why affirmative action is wrong, and not required anymore.

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[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"]Funny how people react when others challenge their privilege. Affirmative Action exists to counter the discrimination that is inherent in a patriarchal, heteronormative, WASP-dominant society. It is an attempt to put minorities on an equal footing with majorities, and is currently is the best system we can employ. Socioeconomic status is an entirely different issue that has different solutions unrelated to Affirmative Action. People act as though discrimination is no longer an issue, when it is actually a huge factor that affects all minorities, and thus solutions must be used to counter the discrimination. airshocker

Affirmative action does none of those things. All it does is make race a bigger issue than it really is. I'm sure there are people out there who are racists and discriminate, but I think the vast majority of America doesn't. That's why affirmative action is wrong, and not required anymore.

I would classify Affirmative Action in the 'more harm than good' category.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]I wonder how they would be acting if a group of people came and took over the area where they were having this sale.Bucked20
I don't even know what you're trying to say. What sort of group would "take over" the area?

If its any Native Americans in that college they should of took over there area as a little reminder of what happened to them.

Wow! They must be really old! Inform the Genus Book of World Records someone, quick!

I think I should we should do mock-strafing runs aimed at civilians in German cities, just to show the Germans today what my ancestors went through in 1939.

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I stopped caring when I read "Republican" in the article. Also if I went to their bake sale I would buy their cupcakes for .75. More for me and I know that I will never receive AA in my lifetime. Also I'm tired of all this "reverse racism" posts in OT. Whites are the natural majority, gamespot OT is a wonderful example of this. To help out minorities its not the best solution but it is a solution we need now until we find better alternatives.
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I stopped caring when I read "Republican" in the article. Also if I went to their bake sale I would buy their cupcakes for .75. More for me and I know that I will never receive AA in my lifetime. Also I'm tired of all this "reverse racism" posts in OT. Whites are the natural majority, gamespot OT is a wonderful example of this. To help out minorities its not the best solution but it is a solution we need now until we find better alternatives.MgamerBD

Facts are facts are facts.

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I stopped caring when I read "Republican" in the article. Also if I went to their bake sale I would buy their cupcakes for .75. More for me and I know that I will never receive AA in my lifetime. Also I'm tired of all this "reverse racism" posts in OT. Whites are the natural majority, gamespot OT is a wonderful example of this. To help out minorities its not the best solution but it is a solution we need now until we find better alternatives.MgamerBD
Being white doesn't make you instantly against affirmative action you know.
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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man.
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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man. Ghost_702

You either didn't read or completely missed the point.

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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man. Ghost_702
Isn't the definition of racism the notion that one race is superior to another race?
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I stopped caring when I read "Republican" in the article. Also if I went to their bake sale I would buy their cupcakes for .75. More for me and I know that I will never receive AA in my lifetime. Also I'm tired of all this "reverse racism" posts in OT. Whites are the natural majority, gamespot OT is a wonderful example of this. To help out minorities its not the best solution but it is a solution we need now until we find better alternatives.DroidPhysX
Being white doesn't make you instantly against affirmative action you know.

Being black, Asian, Native American etc doesn't make you for AA either :)
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I stopped caring when I read "Republican" in the article. Also if I went to their bake sale I would buy their cupcakes for .75. More for me and I know that I will never receive AA in my lifetime. Also I'm tired of all this "reverse racism" posts in OT. Whites are the natural majority, gamespot OT is a wonderful example of this. To help out minorities its not the best solution but it is a solution we need now until we find better alternatives.MgamerBD
Being white doesn't make you instantly against affirmative action you know.

Being black, Asian, Native American etc doesn't make you for AA either :)

You're deflecting, which means you had no response to my point.
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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man.

Ghost_702

So...did you not read the article?

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I must be the only WASP in this country who honestly doesn't care if a black, a latino or a native gets a little more financial aid that I would get.

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I must be the only WASP in this country who honestly doesn't care if a black, a latino or a native gets a little more financial aid that I would get.

worlock77
Well, I am not for any financial aid as it is currently given out...so I don't know where that put me
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If I were a Native American woman, I'd "buy" their entire inventory.

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Well i would have to pay $1.75 for a brownie if i REALLY wanted to...:P

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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man. Ghost_702

You missed the point by such an incredibly wide margin that I can only assume your post was meant for another topic and appeared here by mistake or glitch.

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How can this NOT be considered extremely racist? It's the very definition of racism. Charging different races different prices. What are they trying to accomplish by having this bake sale? That there's a continuing racial divide? That's rather ironic considering how they are doing what they "supposedly" hate, encouraging racism. My first impression by the prices was that these students feel that blacks and natives can't receive a high enough income to even buy a single cupcake, so they lower the prices for them. That's the most screwed up part IMO. If I were a native american I would give them $2.00 for a cupcake to show that I can accomplish the exact same as a white man. Ghost_702

I think that is precisely the point they were going for... that it IS racist. The bake sale is just a microcosm of how it's currently applied in Federal and State equality law.

You missed the point by such an incredibly wide margin that I can only assume your post was meant for another topic and appeared here by mistake or glitch.Oleg_Huzwog

He read the title... then stopped there.

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That's hilarious. So Native American women get it for free.
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These race threads the past couple of days have made me :lol:.

Especially the posts that use irrational reasoning.

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So Native American women get it for free. th3warr1or
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Poor ghost_702 I was going to comment on his 'analysis', but now I feel like a cub's fan years after the Bartman incident
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Being white doesn't make you instantly against affirmative action you know.

Being black, Asian, Native American etc doesn't make you for AA either :)

You're deflecting, which means you had no response to my point.

I wasn't deflecting to anything :?. If anyone was deflecting to my post it was you man...I saw you put a post that had nothing to do with my response so I did the same ;)
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]You missed the point by such an incredibly wide margin that I can only assume your post was meant for another topic and appeared here by mistake or glitch.m0zart

He read the title... then stopped there.

He read far enough to pick up on the specific pricings.

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Getting back on topic. I'm a little surprised that race wasn't already taken into account in admissions to California Universities. Of all States, I'd have expected California to have something like that in place for decades.

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#97 ShuLordLiuPei
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]Affirmative action does none of those things. All it does is make race a bigger issue than it really is. I'm sure there are people out there who are racists and discriminate, but I think the vast majority of America doesn't. That's why affirmative action is wrong, and not required anymore.airshocker
Affirmative Action does what it's meant to: level the playing field for minorities. Nearly every aspect of the education system, like much of society, is tailored by the majority for the majority. Race is a huge issue, I don't see how anyone can deny that. I especially don't see how anyone can claim that Affirmative Action is making race a "bigger issue than it really is."
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#98 The-Apostle
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I support this because any law that tells people to consider race and/or gender is racist and/or sexist.
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#99 rawsavon
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I support this because any law that tells people to consider race and/or gender is racist and/or sexist.The-Apostle
What about laws that take disabilities into account?
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#100 m0zart
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He read far enough to pick up on the specific pricings.Oleg_Huzwog

Yeah fair enough. The prices are right there on the video screen though, so all one has to do is click and look for a split second.