Racist homework in Georgia

did anyone else find the name "Beaver Ridge" slightly amusing?

mattisgod01

Thats just sad

This is not racist. Period. Slavery does not revolve around race, despite what the schools in the US say. Remember, The Romans enslaved the Greeks, the Gauls, the Iberians, the Thracians, the Macedonians, the people of Anatolia, Egyptions, Palestinians, Carthaginians, Dacians, Nubians, Greeks, Illyrians, Persians, Germans, Jews, Christians, Pagans, and even other Romans.lordreaven

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] This is not racist. Period. Slavery does not revolve around race, despite what the schools in the US say. Remember, The Romans enslaved the Greeks, the Gauls, the Iberians, the Thracians, the Macedonians, the people of Anatolia, Egyptions, Palestinians, Carthaginians, Dacians, Nubians, Greeks, Illyrians, Persians, Germans, Jews, Christians, Pagans, and even other Romans.lordreaven

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone.

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone.

Austindro

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

Honestly, slavery was prevalent north and south of the Mason/Dixon line and under the flag of the US. What I do not see is outrage at the US flag for the reasons that there is outrage at the Confederate battle flag. As I alluded to earlier, blacks still pick cotton. Such a question does not necessarily point to slavery. Now beatings on the other hand...

I am not defending the teachers who should have probably used better judgment. I just think people need to face facts that things happened (I alluded to this earlier in the thread) and stop trying to hide behind this crazy PC crap and quit playing the race card.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Was cotten exclusivly grown in the US? Nope. Slavery goes further than US history. Cotten was also grown in India iirc.WhiteKnight77

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

Honestly, slavery was prevalent north and south of the Mason/Dixon line and under the flag of the US. What I do not see is outrage at the US flag for the reasons that there is outrage at the Confederate battle flag. As I alluded to earlier, blacks still pick cotton. Such a question does not necessarily point to slavery. Now beatings on the other hand...

I am not defending the teachers who should have probably used better judgment. I just think people need to face facts that things happened (I alluded to this earlier in the thread) and stop trying to hide behind this crazy PC crap and quit playing the race card.

I don't think assuming that people would make the connection between "slavery" and "blacks" IN GEORGIA is "crazy PC crap".

I'm honestly stunned that anyone can find this at all defensible. In a sane world, you wouldn't have threads where people defend the use of slavery in mathematical word problems. There's no other wording can use? Can't have it be a "farmer" picking oranges instead? In what capacity is a former slavery state using slavery in word problems NOT a dumb idea? Heck, why not have teachers in Germany doing word problems about the number of Jews they can fit into a gas chamber. It would be just as completely idiotic.nocoolnamejim

ANY Nazi reference in Germany can get you imprisoned. Doing that stiff-armed salute can get you in serious s*** (even if you are parodying it). I wish the official website for Return to Castle Wolfenstein was still up, because it warned Geman citizens that some of the material in the game (hell, on the website) was illegal to view.

Here in the US, it's frowned upon to be racist (unless you're a minority... but I won't go there), but not illegal. The 1st Amendment allows for homework questions such as the TC posted. It may not be SMART, but it's certainly allowable.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I'm honestly stunned that anyone can find this at all defensible. In a sane world, you wouldn't have threads where people defend the use of slavery in mathematical word problems. There's no other wording can use? Can't have it be a "farmer" picking oranges instead? In what capacity is a former slavery state using slavery in word problems NOT a dumb idea? Heck, why not have teachers in Germany doing word problems about the number of Jews they can fit into a gas chamber. It would be just as completely idiotic.OrkHammer007

ANY Nazi reference in Germany can get you imprisoned. Doing that stiff-armed salute can get you in serious s*** (even if you are parodying it). I wish the official website for Return to Castle Wolfenstein was still up, because it warned Geman citizens that some of the material in the game (hell, on the website) was illegal to view.

Here in the US, it's frowned upon to be racist (unless you're a minority... but I won't go there), but not illegal. The 1st Amendment allows for homework questions such as the TC posted. It may not be SMART, but it's certainly allowable.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I'm honestly stunned that anyone can find this at all defensible. In a sane world, you wouldn't have threads where people defend the use of slavery in mathematical word problems. There's no other wording can use? Can't have it be a "farmer" picking oranges instead? In what capacity is a former slavery state using slavery in word problems NOT a dumb idea? Heck, why not have teachers in Germany doing word problems about the number of Jews they can fit into a gas chamber. It would be just as completely idiotic.OrkHammer007

ANY Nazi reference in Germany can get you imprisoned. Doing that stiff-armed salute can get you in serious s*** (even if you are parodying it). I wish the official website for Return to Castle Wolfenstein was still up, because it warned Geman citizens that some of the material in the game (hell, on the website) was illegal to view.

Here in the US, it's frowned upon to be racist (unless you're a minority... but I won't go there), but not illegal. The 1st Amendment allows for homework questions such as the TC posted. It may not be SMART, but it's certainly allowable.

The first amendment allows you to say (nearly) anything you want. You can not, for example, do things like shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater or encourage people to commit murder.

It does not, however, shield you from the consequences of your idiocy. Technically, I'm allowed to get on the phone during work tomorrow and tell my ex-boss that she's an ass-kissing idiotic tw..atwaffle that I would not feel bad about if she got sodomized by a foreign object the size of the Collector's Edition of Skyrim.

But freedom of speech wouldn't prevent me from being fired when I did. And a teacher who uses these sorts of questions should be fired, if for no other reason than she's a representative of the school, and by using those sorts of questions she's opening her school up for a lawsuit.

It does not, however, shield you from the consequences of your idiocy. Technically, I'm allowed to get on the phone during work tomorrow and tell my ex-boss that she's an ass-kissing idiotic tw..atwaffle that I would not feel bad about if she got sodomized by a foreign object the size of the Collector's Edition of Skyrim.

But freedom of speech wouldn't prevent me from being fired when I did. And a teacher who uses these sorts of questions should be fired, if for no other reason than she's a representative of the school, and by using those sorts of questions she's opening her school up for a lawsuit.

nocoolnamejim

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

It does not, however, shield you from the consequences of your idiocy. Technically, I'm allowed to get on the phone during work tomorrow and tell my ex-boss that she's an ass-kissing idiotic tw..atwaffle that I would not feel bad about if she got sodomized by a foreign object the size of the Collector's Edition of Skyrim.

But freedom of speech wouldn't prevent me from being fired when I did. And a teacher who uses these sorts of questions should be fired, if for no other reason than she's a representative of the school, and by using those sorts of questions she's opening her school up for a lawsuit.

OrkHammer007

Fair enough. I still think the point holds. The point I was making was that a teacher using slavery in mathematical word problems in a former deep south Confederate state was analogous to a German teacher using killing Jews as an example in a word problem.

Both instances are ASTRONOMICALLY STUPID. I didn't at all go into the legal implications. It wasn't my intention. I merely used the analogy to illustrate that certain regions that have a REALLY BAD HISTORY around a certain event should be extra careful in key areas.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]

It does not, however, shield you from the consequences of your idiocy. Technically, I'm allowed to get on the phone during work tomorrow and tell my ex-boss that she's an ass-kissing idiotic tw..atwaffle that I would not feel bad about if she got sodomized by a foreign object the size of the Collector's Edition of Skyrim.

But freedom of speech wouldn't prevent me from being fired when I did. And a teacher who uses these sorts of questions should be fired, if for no other reason than she's a representative of the school, and by using those sorts of questions she's opening her school up for a lawsuit.

nocoolnamejim

Fair enough. I still think the point holds. The point I was making was that a teacher using slavery in mathematical word problems in a former deep south Confederate state was analogous to a German teacher using killing Jews as an example in a word problem.

Both instances are ASTRONOMICALLY STUPID. I didn't at all go into the legal implications. It wasn't my intention. I merely used the analogy to illustrate that certain regions that have a REALLY BAD HISTORY around a certain event should be extra careful in key areas.

Can somebody explain to me why this is racist ? Cause I honestly don't see it.

No race was mentioned in any way.

I'm more interested in the fact there was math being taught at all :P

Usually you do not jump to conclusions based off of just one post. Evidence was presented by other sources. As a cop, you should know that you need to examine all sources of information.

Here is another source: Parents outraged over math problems referring to slavery, beatings.

WhiteKnight77

Don't patronize me, I have a father already. I didn't read anything in this thread past the first post, and that isn't likely to change when things like The Huffington Post is used as sources. They may have gotten something right, but everybody does occasionally.

Can somebody explain to me why this is racist ? Cause I honestly don't see it.

No race was mentioned in any way.

Sagem28

It is bc the history of the region.

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved was about picking cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone. This goes beyond Georgia though, it is the south in general. If you google "cotton slavery" watch how google finishes your sentence. Saying go pick cotton boy in the south is a racial sentence, there is no mistaking that. I live in Texas and we would say that to friends joking around as kids.

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Can somebody explain to me why this is racist ? Cause I honestly don't see it.

No race was mentioned in any way.

Austindro

It is bc of the history of the region.

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved was about cotton picking. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone. This goes beyond Georgia though, it is the south in general. If you google "cotton slavery" watch how google finishes your sentence. Saying go pick cotton boy in the south is a racial sentence, there is no mistaking that. I live in Texas and we would say that to friends joking around as kids.

I see.
Makes sense, really. Pretty tasteless on the teachers part.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Austindro"]

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone.

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Was cotten exclusivly grown in the US? Nope. Slavery goes further than US history. Cotten was also grown in India iirc.lordreaven

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

The question was asked in Georgia, sensitive topic in the south. Cotton slavery is known for involving African Americans, is it that hard to comprehend? Also one of the question involved beating a slave, are you f*cking serious? Math questions involving beating slaves in an elementary school...

I didn't read anything in this thread past the first post,

airshocker

I wasn't trying to be patronizing and I was hoping that you had read more than just the first post instead of jumping to conclusions based off just the first post. That is the problem with half of this forum, they jump to conclusions without all the facts. I just thought you were above that. My mistake I guess.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]But the question stated that the slaves were in the states, how do we know they are not refering to Roman Egyption slaves? You ASSUME it's about American Slavery. You ASSUME it's about blacks. You know what they say about assuming, right?Austindro

The question was asked in Georgia, sensitive topic in the south. Cotton slavery is known for involving African Americans, is it that hard to comprehend? Also one of the question involved beating a slave, are you f*cking serious? Math questions involving beating slaves in an elementary school...

The fact that blacks still pick cotton is lost on many people.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] It doesn't mean anything. The question merely states a hypothetical situation in which there are slaves. I don't see how this is racist. Are historians racist when they state facts about the past? Should we pretend the past didn't happen?SolidSnake35

So had they said something like how many Jews are left if 20 were rounded up and taken to the concentration camps on Monday and 10 were gassed to death on Tuesday, that would have been ok as well?

Telling a historical fact in History class is one thing, using it in math is another. They could have just as easily have used something like Johnny and Timmy picking apples or something instead.

Yeah but this is a slave state where slavery was about race. Tensions about enslavement/racism are still here in the US considering many African Americans were alive while segregation was still around. Google "cotton slavery" and watch how google finishes off your sentence.

lordreaven

The fact that blacks still pick cotton is lost on many people.

WhiteKnight77

I wasn't trying to be patronizing and I was hoping that you had read more than just the first post instead of jumping to conclusions based off just the first post. That is the problem with half of this forum, they jump to conclusions without all the facts. I just thought you were above that. My mistake I guess.

WhiteKnight77

There was no jumping to conclusions There was simply my unwillingness to trust the source, which I still don't, and the fact that I had no interest in researching the story further.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

The fact that blacks still pick cotton is lost on many people.

BranKetra

It relates to at least one of the questions asked on the homework assignment. The question does not state any race in the cotton question whatsoever. Only two questions mention anything related to slavery. That is out of 20 in all. As noted, said questions were in poor taste, but I do not believe that said teachers were trying to be malicious. Malicious would have been if all 20 had been about slavery, they weren't.

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

The fact that blacks still pick cotton is lost on many people.

It relates to at least one of the questions asked on the homework assignment. The question does not state any race in the cotton question whatsoever. Only two questions mention anything related to slavery. That is out of 20 in all. As noted, said questions were in poor taste, but I do not believe that said teachers were trying to be malicious. Malicious would have been if all 20 had been about slavery, they weren't.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Can somebody explain to me why this is racist ? Cause I honestly don't see it.

No race was mentioned in any way.

thegerg

It is bc the history of the region.

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved was about picking cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone. This goes beyond Georgia though, it is the south in general. If you google "cotton slavery" watch how google finishes your sentence. Saying go pick cotton boy in the south is a racial sentence, there is no mistaking that. I live in Texas and we would say that to friends joking around as kids.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Can somebody explain to me why this is racist ? Cause I honestly don't see it.

No race was mentioned in any way.

thegerg

It is bc the history of the region.

This was in Georgia and one of the questions involved was about picking cotton. Producing cotton single handlely caused the enslavement of hundred of thousands of African Americans in Georgia alone. This goes beyond Georgia though, it is the south in general. If you google "cotton slavery" watch how google finishes your sentence. Saying go pick cotton boy in the south is a racial sentence, there is no mistaking that. I live in Texas and we would say that to friends joking around as kids.

Thank you captain obvious. I was showing why people would view this as racist considering one of the questions involved cotton, which was mostly in the south.