Raise Taxes on America's Rich, it's the Patriotic thing to do!

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I don't expect low income people to survive without money...I never stated that...And "extremely" wealthy in this country is considered anything over $250k. $250k is not "extremely" wealthy in reality. Trust me, if you're married and have kids with that salary, you're not going to be driving around in a Porsches and taking exotic vacations.

And no, their money doesn't just "sit" in banks. Most rich people invest their money, that's one of the reasons they are rich in the first place and stay rich. You must have never been around wealthy people in your life and have some ridiculous prejudices about their lifestyle.

You're arguing semantics on the last part. The point is, unless he's below the poverty level, he has MANY things he doesn't NEED. The overwhelming majority of the population of the world would be more than thankful to have what he has.

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$250K is not poverty level dude. Most people in this country raise a family on much less than that...so compared to the average income of $50....they are extremely wealthy. It's all relavant.

Yeah...investments are in banks somewhere dude. You can't invest without using a bank.

Semantics? No I'm arguing that taking a percent or two more off the extremely wealthy isn't going to hurt them. Nor will they miss it. I'm MUCH rather get rid of ways of tax shelters though. Then they would be paying what they are supposed to be paying. And before we get into that argument...I have had income tax accounting...and yes it happens.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I don't think the issue is the fact that they have to pay, but that they must pay morebecause they make more money.

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Well let's take a look at the word more. There are actually two ways of looking at it. More money is only one way. But if you use a scale as to money not touched or non taxed percentage....then they KEEP more of their money. When your break down someone struggling to get by....ie working or middle cIass...they are giving more money that they need as opposed to someone with extreme wealth. So it depends on one's philosophical stance on the word more.

HAHAHAH struggling to get by. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! They are wealthier than the majority of the world!!! Go to a crappy country in Africa and then tell me if you think you're struggling to survive. Unbelievable how ignorant you are.

You really can't cross compare countries that way.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I don't think the issue is the fact that they have to pay, but that they must pay morebecause they make more money.

SpartanMSU

Well let's take a look at the word more. There are actually two ways of looking at it. More money is only one way. But if you use a scale as to money not touched or non taxed percentage....then they KEEP more of their money. When your break down someone struggling to get by....ie working or middle cIass...they are giving more money that they need as opposed to someone with extreme wealth. So it depends on one's philosophical stance on the word more.

HAHAHAH struggling to get by. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! They are wealthier than the majority of the world!!! Go to a crappy country in Africa and then tell me if you think you're struggling to survive. Unbelievable how ignorant you are.

A homeless person in the US is probably better off than a starving diseased person in africa, but I think most would still pity him and admit he's not well off.

So, yes, I think someone whose holding down 3 jobs, unable to pay rent, unable to really afford food isn't well off. I suppose they're better off than starving people in Africa but in the US, no, they are not well off. It really just seems like you're trying to say "Hey lower class, you're well off! Compared to the 3rd world!". The rich are a million times better off than those in such countries.