Rap Music: Is Something Wrong With Society?

Greetings,

I do not have much of an appreciation for rap music. While I understand that it is a more poetic kind of music, I feel that too much of it involves little to no creativity or talent. The only rap artist that I can enjoy is Eminem, yet I consider him an exception because his music is actually meaningful and good.

As an example, let us talk about Soulja Boy. I have listened to several of his songs, and although it seems like nearly anyone could do what he does, he makes far more money than people within the most challenging of professions. He makes more money than astronauts, project managers, psychiatrists, surgeons, and others that require years upon years of education and training.

Why is this?

It does not seem like this kind of music would have been classified as "music" in the past, yet for some reason this generation accepts it and enjoys it. Assuming I am not in the wrong, this generation is either more "stupid" or there is something else entirely.

Songs like this are basically insulting the human race. We can get as much education as we want, and study and work as hard as we want, but we'll never make as much money as Soulja Boy. Apparently this is alright because he can constantly repeat, "This, right here, is my, swag!"

Listening to Soulja Boy is your problem.

There is nothing wrong with society, I think you should listen to more then just mainstream rap before criticizing rap as a whole.

**** mainstream rap!!!!

Underground has plenty of meaningful and amazing songs.

A few examples:

Same Story

Rain

Porcelain

Whats wrong with Bill?

November

I got plenty more if you need more convincing ;)

As with any genre of music, rap is composed of a lot of "bad" and "good" music.QiiXii

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Turtlecream

Because their songs are catchy and/or fun to dance to. I hate Soulja Boi's music, but I can understand how it became the fad that it was.

You're looking for music in the wrong places. Turn off the radio. There's just as much terrible popular rock and pop as rap.

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If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Lab392

Because their songs are catchy and/or fun to dance to. I hate Soulja Boi's music, but I can understand how it became the fad that it was.

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Turtlecream

Mainstream rap didn't always be terrible. To be honest I have no idea WTF happened. I don't really care if the music I like isn't played on the radio though.

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Turtlecream

There are rappers who make more money than surgeons. Also jocks who cheat. It is a perverted reward system.

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Turtlecream

I'm not sure what point your making. If your problem is entertainers being paid too much, then why are you singling out rappers and singers that you don't like. I can just as easily say why is (insert your favorite band) making more then a teacher or firefighter. Entertainers (good or bad), pro athletes, actors, actresses, etc. get paid ridiculous amounts of money to entertain people. As far ask your dislike of rap music, that's your opinion, but as other posters have illustrated there are plenty of poetic MCs out there.

your problem is your listening to terrible rap. heres a huge list of good rappers and groups and i guarantee out of that list you will like something Wu Tang Nas Big L Immortal Technique Sick Jacken Ill Bill Sean Price Freddie Gibbs Army Of The Pharaohs AZ Jedi Mind Tricks Big Pun Binary Star MF Doom Brotha Lynch Hung Doe Or Die Bone Thugs Blu Gang Starr The Jacka Cage Mobb Deep Murs Onyx Non Phixion Smif N Wessun Talib Kweli Redman Zion I Wiz Khalifaspliffstar12

Greetings,

I do not have much of an appreciation for rap music. While I understand that it is a more poetic kind of music, I feel that too much of it involves little to no creativity or talent. The only rap artist that I can enjoy is Eminem, yet I consider him an exception because his music is actually meaningful and good.

As an example, let us talk about Soulja Boy. I have listened to several of his songs, and although it seems like nearly anyone could do what he does, he makes far more money than people within the most challenging of professions. He makes more money than astronauts, project managers, psychiatrists, surgeons, and others that require years upon years of education and training.

Why is this?

It does not seem like this kind of music would have been classified as "music" in the past, yet for some reason this generation accepts it and enjoys it. Assuming I am not in the wrong, this generation is either more "stupid" or there is something else entirely.

Songs like this are basically insulting the human race. We can get as much education as we want, and study and work as hard as we want, but we'll never make as much money as Soulja Boy. Apparently this is alright because he can constantly repeat, "This, right here, is my, swag!"

Turtlecream

That's business.

One can also say that athletes don't deserve their fortunes for playing football, or that actors don't deserve their fortunes for role-playing in front of a camera. But...they bring in LOTS of money via ticket/movie/album sales, and therefore they deserve to be rich as ****. Yes, even if their work sucks.

And it has nothing to do with "this generation." Back in the early 90s, there was MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. Back in the 80s there were hair metal bands. Back in the 70s it was disco.

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"]your problem is your listening to terrible rap. heres a huge list of good rappers and groups and i guarantee out of that list you will like something Wu Tang Nas Big L Immortal Technique Sick Jacken Ill Bill Sean Price Freddie Gibbs Army Of The Pharaohs AZ Jedi Mind Tricks Big Pun Binary Star MF Doom Brotha Lynch Hung Doe Or Die Bone Thugs Blu Gang Starr The Jacka Cage Mobb Deep Murs Onyx Non Phixion Smif N Wessun Talib Kweli Redman Zion I Wiz KhalifaHemmaroids

Early Bone Thugs are better than half of that list.

If there was a surgeon, and he was a terrible surgeon, it is unlikely that he would be famous, praised and rich. Why are exceptions made for horrendous singers in the mainstream media?

Turtlecream

:|

Is this supposed to be a serious question?

Well for starters, listening to a bad singer/rapper/etc isn't gonna leave you crippled or dead.

I wouldn't say that. I like the Bone songS, Creepin On Ah Come Up and Down Foe My Thang on their Creepin On Ah Come Up album. But I find their soft voices unhardcore. I hate the soft voices they have. Too soft for me, not hard enough.

Hemmaroids

Eh, to each their own. I think the way they sing, use harmonies, and have "soft" voices makes them unique.

(Though I'll agree that their recent stuff is mostly garbage)

Okay here is my list

Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Black Milk
Apathy
Celph Titled
Zion I
Blue Scholars
Common Market
Sadistik
Nas
Goretex
Ill Bill
Sabac Red
Non Phixion
Souls of Mischief
Cunninlynguists
Tonedeff
Army of the Pharaohs
Necro
Diabolic
Doap Nixon
Outerspace
Little Brother
Living Legends
Macklemoore
Mr. Hyde
7l & Esoteric
RA the Rugged Man
Randam Luck
Snowgoons

If you don't like the music, don't comment about it. I hate rap but I don't insult it.

If you don't like the music, don't comment about it. I hate rap but I don't insult it.

rockerbikie

As a rap fan, I can accept and appreciate that.

Okay here is my list

Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Black Milk
Apathy
Celph Titled
Zion I
Blue Scholars
Common Market
Sadistik
Nas
Goretex
Ill Bill
Sabac Red
Non Phixion
Souls of Mischief
Cunninlynguists
Tonedeff
Army of the Pharaohs
Necro
Diabolic
Doap Nixon
Outerspace
Little Brother
Living Legends
Macklemoore
Mr. Hyde
7l & Esoteric
RA the Rugged Man
Randam Luck
Snowgoons

hedden93

Well yes. Their is something wrong with society. A lot wrong with society. Rap is just one of many side effects.

[QUOTE="hedden93"]

Okay here is my list

Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Black Milk
Apathy
Celph Titled
Zion I
Blue Scholars
Common Market
Sadistik
Nas
Goretex
Ill Bill
Sabac Red
Non Phixion
Souls of Mischief
Cunninlynguists
Tonedeff
Army of the Pharaohs
Necro
Diabolic
Doap Nixon
Outerspace
Little Brother
Living Legends
Macklemoore
Mr. Hyde
7l & Esoteric
RA the Rugged Man
Randam Luck
Snowgoons

spliffstar12

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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

Okay here is my list

Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
Black Milk
Apathy
Celph Titled
Zion I
Blue Scholars
Common Market
Sadistik
Nas
Goretex
Ill Bill
Sabac Red
Non Phixion
Souls of Mischief
Cunninlynguists
Tonedeff
Army of the Pharaohs
Necro
Diabolic
Doap Nixon
Outerspace
Little Brother
Living Legends
Macklemoore
Mr. Hyde
7l & Esoteric
RA the Rugged Man
Randam Luck
Snowgoons

hedden93

yeah i got Liar and a Theif its a pretty good album and thats one of my favorite songs off it

[QUOTE="hedden93"]

[QUOTE="spliffstar12"] everyone on theres tight and Diabolic sems like a cool ass dude he posted on this hiphop forum i was on pretty often.

spliffstar12

yeah i got Liar and a Theif its a pretty good album and thats one of my favorite songs off it

listen to old school hiphop. Souljaboy isnt a rapper.

Greetings,

I do not have much of an appreciation for rap music. While I understand that it is a more poetic kind of music, I feel that too much of it involves little to no creativity or talent. The only rap artist that I can enjoy is Eminem....

Turtlecream

I stopped reading right there.

I love when people say Eminem is the only rapper they enjoy because he only raps about meaningful things, when songs like "Under the Influence" and "My Name Is" are the exact opposite. This does not mean he doesn't rap about real things though (for example, "Stan," "The Way I Am," and "White America.")

To find good rap, like all other music, dig through the crap and you'll find something you like.

[QUOTE="Turtlecream"]

Greetings,

I do not have much of an appreciation for rap music. While I understand that it is a more poetic kind of music, I feel that too much of it involves little to no creativity or talent. The only rap artist that I can enjoy is Eminem....

joesh89

I stopped reading right there.

Thank God somebody else found that statement to be nonsense.

I love when people say Eminem is the only rapper they enjoy because he only raps about meaningful things, when songs like "Under the Influence" and "My Name Is" are the exact opposite. This does not mean he doesn't rap about real things though (for example, "Stan," "The Way I Am," and "White America.")

To find good rap, like all other music, dig through the crap and you'll find something you like.

LZ71

And then these same people (like the TC) ignore all the meaningful things that other rappers talk about.

I agree, the whole genre in general sucks.

I agree, the whole genre in general sucks.

CHOASXIII

Somehow I doubt you've listened to everything the genre has to offer...

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I agree, the whole genre in general sucks.

JML897

Somehow I doubt you've listened to everything the genre has to offer...

I have heard quite a bit of it and I do not like anything about rap music mostly because I do not like the beat of it nor do I like what they talk about.

Black Star - Respiration

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tc is a joke