Rape Video Game goes Viral Amid Outrage

to jeremiah06 - gta games arent much better. legally theres nothing u can do against rapelay because of gta. it sickens me because morals should be what stops these games from being developed. as i said these games weren't developed to reduce rape but for entertainment, and theres nothing that can be done, and i mean whats next? a holecost (i dont know how to spell it) game? this game is so sexist we might as well develope a "shoot the black man game". anyway this kept me awake untill 2 am, so this is my last post. goodnightMichelle4003

I would rather people make this stuff.. Then people going after others for making things that is disagreeable.. Things have improved in our society not gotten worse..

this game is so sexist we might as well develope a "shoot the black man game".Michelle4003

*shake head* what is wrong with people these days.moonlightcharm6

"These days"? Sadistic erotica has been around for hundreds of years. "120 Days of Sodom" was written 225 years ago and I guarantee you that Rapelay has nothing on it in terms of offensiveness.

*shake head* what is wrong with people these days.moonlightcharm6

to jeremiah06 - gta games arent much better. legally theres nothing u can do against rapelay because of gta. it sickens me because morals should be what stops these games from being developed. as i said these games weren't developed to reduce rape but for entertainment, and theres nothing that can be done, and i mean whats next? a holecost (i dont know how to spell it) game? this game is so sexist we might as well develope a "shoot the black man game". anyway this kept me awake untill 2 am, so this is my last post. goodnightMichelle4003

[QUOTE="moonlightcharm6"]*shake head* what is wrong with people these days.markop2003

wow i never even knew there was a game like this.. thats pretty sick

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="moonlightcharm6"]*shake head* what is wrong with people these days.Big_Bad_Sad

Its ironic really when you think about it.. When people say "my god what is happening to today's youth/culture etc etc!".. To me all it shows is ignorance and blind romanticism that completely falls to pieces to fact.. People like to point out often times how the 1950s was such a great decade.. Yeah for exampleif your black it was ok as long as you "knew your place".. Or say a woman, as long as you "knew your place"..

Better in a video game than in real life..SoraX64

Yeah this is a fine point.. One can argue that our entertainment has gotten more violent or graphic in video games and movies over the past 50 years.. But violent crimes are GOING DOWN instead of rising..

Japanese people are so strange..

OK, then by which standard should we allow murder, but frown rape? Its far to ignorant to have such ideals. Nobody regardless of the argument they took said rape was OK. However, everyone against the rape game has subliminally said murder is OK. This is the bigotry I'm trying to point out.jeremiah06

Rape is bad but it is not an adequate comparison to murder.

I'm stating that the arguments used prior in this thread kept saying, "If you condone Gears of War, why won't you condone RapeLay?", is poorly constructed. Neither games are relative to one another; it's inaccurate to try to compare two different subjects and ask which is more justified than the other. If you must use a comparison, find one that is valid. Therefore, I pointed out that rape is, more or less, a subject of sexism and dominance. Hence why Grand Theft Auto is a perfect example or, even, other forms of American entertainment ("Candyshop by 50 Cent").

The American culture is full of patriarchy. However, because most of us grew up in that environment, the blunt "women = property" stuff we see is more subtle. While the Japanese culture is also full of patriarchy, their forms of "propaganda" is different (things that are different tend to stick out a bit more than things that aren't). The ideology may be the same, but the overall presentation is different.

Both cultures condone RapeLay (through different methods). However, can we excuse RapeLay with Halo? No. Why? Because the original idea and content of Halo is different than RapeLay. Given, Halo has more explicit violence but RapeLay has more explicit sexism. The differences are incomparable.

Violence =/= Rape

Rape =/= Violence

Halo =/= RapeLay

RapeLay =/= Halo

Get it?

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]OK, then by which standard should we allow murder, but frown rape? Its far to ignorant to have such ideals. Nobody regardless of the argument they took said rape was OK. However, everyone against the rape game has subliminally said murder is OK. This is the bigotry I'm trying to point out.voluptuoushrewd

Rape is bad but it is not an adequate comparison to murder.

I'm stating that the arguments used prior in this thread kept saying, "If you condone Gears of War, why won't you condone RapeLay?", is poorly constructed. Neither games are relative to one another; it's inaccurate to try to compare two different subjects and ask which is more justified than the other. If you must use a comparison, find one that is valid. Therefore, I pointed out that rape is, more or less, a subject of sexism and dominance. Hence why Grand Theft Auto is a perfect example or, even, other forms of American entertainment ("Candyshop by 50 Cent").

The American culture is full of patriarchy. However, because most of us grew up in that environment, the blunt "women = property" stuff we see is more subtle. While the Japanese culture is also full of patriarchy, their forms of "propaganda" is different (things that are different tend to stick out a bit more than things that aren't). The ideology may be the same, but the overall presentation is different.

Both cultures condone RapeLay (through different methods). However, can we excuse RapeLay with Halo? No. Why? Because the original idea and content of Halo is different than RapeLay. Given, Halo has more explicit violence but RapeLay has more explicit sexism. The differences are incomparable.

Violence =/= Rape

Rape =/= Violence

Halo =/= RapeLay

RapeLay =/= Halo

Get it?

I fail to see the difference when we compare it to something likeGTA.. Except we are far more uptight about sex then we are about violence.. I would argue the only difference is RapePlay is probably infinitely moer graphic.. Now is this is suggesting that both are wrong or such? No I try to keep neutral in this, I would rather play GTA over this game.. But I honestly could care less about this game what so ever.. Thats the great thing about freedom of information.. You can enjoy what you want, while ignoring the things that you don't want.. I honestly think this is making too much headlines.. If people are trying to preventing this game from spreading, they did the exact opposite by having it hit headlines.

lol wow

Whaaaaa? I swear this game just keeps popping out of nowhere every 6 months or so.Nifty_Shark

Yeah, there was a thread about this game last year. It's still icky.

I'm stating that the arguments used prior in this thread kept saying, "If you condone Gears of War, why won't you condone RapeLay?", is poorly constructed.

voluptuoushrewd

I fail to see the difference when we compare it to something likeGTA.. Except we are far more uptight about sex then we are about violence.. I would argue the only difference is RapePlay is probably infinitely moer graphic.. Now is this is suggesting that both are wrong or such? No I try to keep neutral in this, I would rather play GTA over this game.. But I honestly could care less about this game what so ever.. Thats the great thing about freedom of information.. You can enjoy what you want, while ignoring the things that you don't want.. I honestly think this is making too much headlines.. If people are trying to preventing this game from spreading, they did the exact opposite by having it hit headlines.

sSubZerOo

The core ideology of GTA and RapeLay is similar. I do believe that GTA is a more ADEQUATE comparison then, let's say, Gears of War...

Honestly, I would never play RapeLay. I would play GTA. Why? Because I view GTA as better and more clean than RapeLay. In reality, it's not... We're just more accustomed to how GTA executed its content.

Objectively speaking, is this really worse than games like Manhunt?

one_plum

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I fail to see the difference when we compare it to something likeGTA.. Except we are far more uptight about sex then we are about violence.. I would argue the only difference is RapePlay is probably infinitely moer graphic.. Now is this is suggesting that both are wrong or such? No I try to keep neutral in this, I would rather play GTA over this game.. But I honestly could care less about this game what so ever.. Thats the great thing about freedom of information.. You can enjoy what you want, while ignoring the things that you don't want.. I honestly think this is making too much headlines.. If people are trying to preventing this game from spreading, they did the exact opposite by having it hit headlines.

voluptuoushrewd

The core ideology of GTA and RapeLay is similar. I do believe that GTA is a more ADEQUATE comparison then, let's say, Gears of War...

Honestly, I would never play RapeLay. I would play GTA. Why? Because I view GTA as better and more clean than RapeLay. In reality, it's not... We're just more accustomed to how GTA executed its content.

Well to be fair, RapePlay is most likely going to be more graphic..

[QUOTE="voluptuoushrewd"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I fail to see the difference when we compare it to something likeGTA.. Except we are far more uptight about sex then we are about violence.. I would argue the only difference is RapePlay is probably infinitely moer graphic.. Now is this is suggesting that both are wrong or such? No I try to keep neutral in this, I would rather play GTA over this game.. But I honestly could care less about this game what so ever.. Thats the great thing about freedom of information.. You can enjoy what you want, while ignoring the things that you don't want.. I honestly think this is making too much headlines.. If people are trying to preventing this game from spreading, they did the exact opposite by having it hit headlines.

sSubZerOo

The core ideology of GTA and RapeLay is similar. I do believe that GTA is a more ADEQUATE comparison then, let's say, Gears of War...

Honestly, I would never play RapeLay. I would play GTA. Why? Because I view GTA as better and more clean than RapeLay. In reality, it's not... We're just more accustomed to how GTA executed its content.

Well to be fair, RapePlay is most likely going to be more graphic..

Technically it's porn... Or can be considered as such. No plot. Just rape.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="voluptuoushrewd"]

The core ideology of GTA and RapeLay is similar. I do believe that GTA is a more ADEQUATE comparison then, let's say, Gears of War...

Honestly, I would never play RapeLay. I would play GTA. Why? Because I view GTA as better and more clean than RapeLay. In reality, it's not... We're just more accustomed to how GTA executed its content.

voluptuoushrewd

Well to be fair, RapePlay is most likely going to be more graphic..

Technically it's porn... Or can be considered as such. No plot. Just rape.

Even porn can have (though flimsy, or laughable) plotlines.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]OK, then by which standard should we allow murder, but frown rape? Its far to ignorant to have such ideals. Nobody regardless of the argument they took said rape was OK. However, everyone against the rape game has subliminally said murder is OK. This is the bigotry I'm trying to point out.voluptuoushrewd

Rape is bad but it is not an adequate comparison to murder.

I'm stating that the arguments used prior in this thread kept saying, "If you condone Gears of War, why won't you condone RapeLay?", is poorly constructed. Neither games are relative to one another; it's inaccurate to try to compare two different subjects and ask which is more justified than the other. If you must use a comparison, find one that is valid. Therefore, I pointed out that rape is, more or less, a subject of sexism and dominance. Hence why Grand Theft Auto is a perfect example or, even, other forms of American entertainment ("Candyshop by 50 Cent").

The American culture is full of patriarchy. However, because most of us grew up in that environment, the blunt "women = property" stuff we see is more subtle. While the Japanese culture is also full of patriarchy, their forms of "propaganda" is different (things that are different tend to stick out a bit more than things that aren't). The ideology may be the same, but the overall presentation is different.

Both cultures condone RapeLay (through different methods). However, can we excuse RapeLay with Halo? No. Why? Because the original idea and content of Halo is different than RapeLay. Given, Halo has more explicit violence but RapeLay has more explicit sexism. The differences are incomparable.

Violence =/= Rape

Rape =/= Violence

Halo =/= RapeLay

RapeLay =/= Halo

Get it?

You are aware this is a softcore BDSM game, right? It's not intended as a porno for normal people nor is it intended for non-sexual entertainment. It's aimed at people who get sexually aroused by the idea of treating other people like objects, abusing other people, harming other people, etc. They know it's not right to view people as objects and the consequences of doing so which is precisely why they get turned on by it.

Complaining about sexism in BDSM is utterly pointless seeing as how the one fundamental thing about all BDSM activities is that there is a massive discrepancy in status and treatment between two parties. That's kind of the entire point of the fetish. If it makes you feel any better there are plenty of BDSM erotica out there that feature women dominating/raping men. The only reason that's more rare than "man on woman" is because men are most likely to be sadists whereas women are most likely to be masochists and thus there's a bigger market for that type of portrayed dynamic.

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

Objectively speaking, is this really worse than games like Manhunt?

Tauruslink

Uhm what? Really? Well not my type of game but I'm sure it will find some sort of niche

From what I've read, the women you rape in the game are in to it. So its not like its completely accurate. bobaban

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="one_plum"]

Objectively speaking, is this really worse than games like Manhunt?

Jaks_Publicity

Is this available on Steam?NerubianWeaver

No, but Battle Raper 2 is. Just kidding. Your question made me chuckle, btw.

You are aware this is a softcore BDSM game, right? It's not intended as a porno for normal people nor is it intended for non-sexual entertainment. It's aimed at people who get sexually aroused by the idea of treating other people like objects, abusing other people, harming other people, etc. They know it's not right to view people as objects and the consequences of doing so which is precisely why they get turned on by it.

Complaining about sexism in BDSM is utterly pointless seeing as how the one fundamental thing about all BDSM activities is that there is a massive discrepancy in status and treatment between two parties. That's kind of the entire point of the fetish. If it makes you feel any better there are plenty of BDSM erotica out there that feature women dominating/raping men. The only reason that's more rare than "man on woman" is because men are most likely to be sadists whereas women are most likely to be masochists and thus there's a bigger market for that type of portrayed dynamic.

gameguy6700

Rape is non-consensual.

BDSM is.

Yeah, but murder is totally fine.

Also, It seems as if they used an Asian reporter to make it seem as if the the American media is not trying to shove "morals" down the people of Japan's throat.

Yeah, but murder is totally fine.

Also, It seems as if they used an Asian reporter to make it seem as if the the American media is not trying to shove "morals" down the people of Japan's throat.

samuraiguns

Having "morals" is a bad thing?

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

You are aware this is a softcore BDSM game, right? It's not intended as a porno for normal people nor is it intended for non-sexual entertainment. It's aimed at people who get sexually aroused by the idea of treating other people like objects, abusing other people, harming other people, etc. They know it's not right to view people as objects and the consequences of doing so which is precisely why they get turned on by it.

Complaining about sexism in BDSM is utterly pointless seeing as how the one fundamental thing about all BDSM activities is that there is a massive discrepancy in status and treatment between two parties. That's kind of the entire point of the fetish. If it makes you feel any better there are plenty of BDSM erotica out there that feature women dominating/raping men. The only reason that's more rare than "man on woman" is because men are most likely to be sadists whereas women are most likely to be masochists and thus there's a bigger market for that type of portrayed dynamic.

voluptuoushrewd

Rape is non-consensual.

BDSM is.

Yes, and most BDSM fetishists fantasize about non-consensual activities. Rapelay appeals to that and considering that it's a video game and thus no one is harmed I don't really see anything wrong with it.

[QUOTE="Michelle4003"]to jeremiah06- killing is harder than raping, u wont find a rocket launcher in the middle of the street in real life. and i did read a story about a guy who stoll a car to see "if its really that easy to get away with it in real life"..u r much more likely to find a girl in the subway in real lifeBloodseeker23

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

Yeah, but murder is totally fine.

Also, It seems as if they used an Asian reporter to make it seem as if the the American media is not trying to shove "morals" down the people of Japan's throat.

StrawberryHill

Having "morals" is a bad thing?

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="one_plum"]

Objectively speaking, is this really worse than games like Manhunt?

Jaks_Publicity

In terms of real life stigma attached to things, rape is considered the more evil crime than murder. In all intensive purposes it should be, rape is done with more sinister meanings behind it than murder is, sure both can be done over jealousy, insanity, hate. Rape has both mental and physical long lasting effects. Murder is a "retribution" crime, where as rape is more about making the other person suffer as much as possible. This is why most people (including myself) feel that rape is the worse crime and why it's more acceptable for a video game to depict murder then rape.FrostyPhantasm

On a side note it should be noted that murder is a flat out sin in the Bible's ten commandments. Whereas in the bible it is never mentioned as a sin. God allowed the children of Israel to rape the women of the enemies that they conquered and the punishment for raping a young woman was you had to marry her and pay the dad 50 silver coins. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

In terms of real life stigma attached to things, rape is considered the more evil crime than murder. In all intensive purposes it should be, rape is done with more sinister meanings behind it than murder is, sure both can be done over jealousy, insanity, hate. Rape has both mental and physical long lasting effects. Murder is a "retribution" crime, where as rape is more about making the other person suffer as much as possible. This is why most people (including myself) feel that rape is the worse crime and why it's more acceptable for a video game to depict murder then rape.FrostyPhantasm

Murder as a retributive crime is usually done over very trivial things, and often it's not retributive at all. Many murders are done because a spouse wants the other's life insurance money or wants them out of the way because they have a new lover whom they like more and don't want to bother with all the drama and divorce proceedings. Other times it's done because of a botched robbery/mugging or to cover up another crime. Sometimes people do it because they just don't like another person (genocide, hate killings, etc). Sometimes people just kill for the hell of it (see: serial murderers).

Besides, what about crimes that leave victim physically disfigured/maimed and with PTSD such that they're even worse off than most rape victims? How does that compare to murder?

In reality, the reason people look down on rape as the worst crime is because most people are already deeply offended by any abnormal sexual behaviors. When you combine that disgust with a serious crime, a lot of people have an excessive emotional reaction. Think about it. Whenever people talk about rape the word "disgusting" is sure to come up, but when talking about murder or torture you almost never hear the word "disgusting" get thrown around. In fact, when talking about murder people almost glorify it. God only knows how many movies, TV shows, books, and games revolve around the romanticism or glorification of murder. Let's face it: In our society killing people is one of the coolest things you can do.

IMO you can't get worse than murder. Murder is the ultimate crime because it dishes out the most damage you can possibly inflict on a person.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]In terms of real life stigma attached to things, rape is considered the more evil crime than murder. In all intensive purposes it should be, rape is done with more sinister meanings behind it than murder is, sure both can be done over jealousy, insanity, hate. Rape has both mental and physical long lasting effects. Murder is a "retribution" crime, where as rape is more about making the other person suffer as much as possible. This is why most people (including myself) feel that rape is the worse crime and why it's more acceptable for a video game to depict murder then rape.gameguy6700

Murder as a retributive crime is usually done over very trivial things, and often it's not retributive at all. Many murders are done because a spouse wants the other's life insurance money or wants them out of the way because they have a new lover whom they like more and don't want to bother with all the drama and divorce proceedings. Other times it's done because of a botched robbery/mugging or to cover up another crime. Sometimes people do it because they just don't like another person (genocide, hate killings, etc). Sometimes people just kill for the hell of it (see: serial murderers).

Besides, what about crimes that leave victim physically disfigured/maimed and with PTSD such that they're even worse off than most rape victims? How does that compare to murder?

In reality, the reason people look down on rape as the worst crime is because most people are already deeply offended by any abnormal sexual behaviors. When you combine that disgust with a serious crime, a lot of people have an excessive emotional reaction. Think about it. Whenever people talk about rape the word "disgusting" is sure to come up, but when talking about murder or torture you almost never hear the word "disgusting" get thrown around.

IMO you can't get worse than murder. Murder is the ultimate crime because it dishes out the most damage you can possibly inflict on a person.

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Nice.

how can i remove the pubes? i turned "pubic hair" off and it still shows, a little help here?BiancaDK

When the hell with they patch this pube glitch?McJugga

[QUOTE="McJugga"]When the hell with they patch this pube glitch?Got_to_go