Link [quote="Steve Bene - Washington Monthly"] Last week, after a rather pointless vote to repeal the entirety of the Affordable Care Act, House Republicans announced their second major initiative: the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act." It was additional evidence that the new House GOP majority isn't exactly focused on the economy and job creation, and it seemed like another gesture to the party's far-right base. After all, existing law already restricts public funds for abortions. Today, Nick Baumann takes a closer look at the proposal, and highlights an odious provision that proponents would use to redefine rape. [quote="Nick Baumann - Mother Jones"] With this legislation, which was introduced last week by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Republicans propose that the rape exemption be limited to "forcible rape." This would rule out federal assistance for abortions in many rape cases, including instances of statutory rape, many of which are non-forcible. For example: If a 13-year-old girl is impregnated by a 24-year-old adult, she would no longer qualify to have Medicaid pay for an abortion. (Smith's spokesman did not respond to a call and an email requesting comment.) ... Other types of rapes that would no longer be covered by the exemption include rapes in which the woman was drugged or given excessive amounts of alcohol, rapes of women with limited mental capacity, and many date rapes. So, let me see if I have this right, this bill - which already has 173 Republican cosponsors - has no chance of passing and would have the following impacts if it actually did. 1. Limiting the rape exception to only violent, forced rape and not any other type (such as a boss telling a subordinate that if she doesn't have sex with him she'll be fired.) 2. Would do nothing but reinforce existing federal law that forbids taxpayer funding for abortions by limiting what can be classified as "rape" and forcing female victims to have rape babies regardless by limiting exception cases. Am I being too harsh here? Is this inaccurate to say that the first major Republican initiative was a pointless repeal of the Affordable Healthcare Act that had no chance of passing the Senate and their second is to redefine rape to make raped women carry babies they don't want that has no chance of passing the Senate?
Republicans are so full of bullcrap. I'm completely fed up with dealing with their daily stupidity in Congress. It's high time we kick their stone-aged asses out of the government and join the rest of the civilized world.Theokhoth
I would like to kick the Democrats out with them. Neither of them are doing anything in Washington.
I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Republicans are so full of bullcrap. I'm completely fed up with dealing with their daily stupidity in Congress. It's high time we kick their stone-aged asses out of the government and join the rest of the civilized world.Ragnarok1051
I would like to kick the Democrats out with them. Neither of them are doing anything in Washington. The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?
this reminds me of the time in my country of origin when lawmakers tried to lower the age of consent to 13, i'm being serious this post.Who comes up with these laws.
This is a sick move man, a sick one, we should be protectn females of all ages.
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Republicans are so full of bullcrap. I'm completely fed up with dealing with their daily stupidity in Congress. It's high time we kick their stone-aged asses out of the government and join the rest of the civilized world.Theokhoth
I would like to kick the Democrats out with them. Neither of them are doing anything in Washington. The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter? Neither of them are really solving any of the problems facing us. All they do is blame the other for not doing anything. Time to get rid of all of them if you ask me.
it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...Omni-Slash
The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?Theokhoth
pay for all your programs through over taxation....
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...worlock77
this reminds me of the time in my country of origin when lawmakers tried to lower the age of consent to 13, i'm being serious this post.Who comes up with these laws.
This is a sick move man, a sick one, we should be protectn females of all ages.
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences... Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term.
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...Omni-Slash
Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term.nocoolnamejim
actually all those are upheld as violent rape in courts of law...(un consenting).....try again..
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?Omni-Slash
pay for all your programs through over taxations.... :lol: Yeah, my taxes have just gone through the roof! Up a dollar since last year. :lol:
Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape nocoolnamejim
It still counts as sexual harassment though right?
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...nocoolnamejim
Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term.
Technically #2 is blackmail, not rape. I disagree with #1 and #3; those are stupid.
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape entropyecho
It still counts as sexual harassment though right?
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...th3warr1or
Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term.
Technically #2 is blackmail, not rape. I disagree with #1 and #3; those are stupid.
I don't think you quite understand what blackmail is.
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape entropyecho
It still counts as sexual harassment though right?
The two aren't equivalent. Sexual harassment can be making lewd comments or spanking her ass; rape involves sex.
let me say...consentual sex should not be covered period...but IF it is true that they are advocating date rape drugs and mentally retarded people should not be covered...that's just rediculous....
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term.Omni-Slash
actually all those are upheld as violent rape in courts of law...(un consenting).....try again.. If you believe that, it would be a waste of time debating with you. I presented a link and a legal analysis that highlights what this bill would do - Chip away at what the definition of rape is. There's no federally codified definition and each state has their own definition.
let me say...consentual sex should not be covered period...but IF it is true that they are advocating date rape drugs and mentally retarded people should not be covered...that's just rediculous....Omni-Slash
That's my understanding of what is being advocated. If you have a different link that says otherwise I'll be happy to look.
I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...Omni-Slash
That's my understanding of what is being advocated. If you have a different link that says otherwise I'll be happy to look.nocoolnamejim
:lol:..it's your understanding based of liberal leaning analysis of ONE story..hell if it's on the webs it MUST be true.....the hypcrocy is painful....i'lk wait until I can see if there are other view-points that are being released.....
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...GreySeal9
That's quite a big accusation. Care to prove it?
find a ny number of threads in this place where the majority has argued for or advocated with having sex with underaged people.....don;t strain yourself...it's not that hard...
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?Theokhoth
pay for all your programs through over taxations.... :lol: Yeah, my taxes have just gone through the roof! Up a dollar since last year. :lol: mine went down this year.... CURSE OBAMA AND HIS TAX AND SPEND POLICES!! I HATE HIM!
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences... Statutory rape is one of a number of rape scenarios no longer covered. Go to a fraternity party and see some woman passed out on a bed from drinking too much and have sex with her? = No longer counts as rape Have a subordinate at work that you want to plow? Go ahead and tell her she'll be fired if she doesn't go along. = No longer counts as rape Know a mentally retarded girl that doesn't know what she's doing? Molest and impregnate away. = No longer counts as rape. Basically only violent rape would still count under this redefinition for the purposes of figuring out which women would be forced to carry your spawn to term. and ideally they want that mother and child to have no assistance with the healthcare bills. oh well new batch of indebted low wage workers. just what the machine wants.
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I'm failing to see the issue in this...forcible rape/date rape still covered...statutory "rape" is not....I love the extreme case they sue for statutory rape btw.... I'm Pro-Choice....but as it is a choice...you have to pay for it.....period.... it's funny so many people on these boards fight for the right to screw around with little kids....yet non-one wants to pay for the consequences...Omni-Slash
That's quite a big accusation. Care to prove it?
find a ny number of threads in this place where the majority has argued for or advocated with having sex with underaged people.....don;t strain yourself...it's not that hard...
You made the claim so you need to prove it or otherwise you are evading.
If it's not that hard, you should provide the links.
So let's see them.
And I want to see links that advocate for having sex with "little kids".
[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] That's my understanding of what is being advocated. If you have a different link that says otherwise I'll be happy to look.Omni-Slash
:lol:..it's your understanding based of liberal leaning analysis of ONE story..hell if it's on the webs it MUST be true.....the hypcrocy is painful....i'lk wait until I can see if there are other view-points that are being released..... Actually, it's my understanding after reading the text of the document itself. Link
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?Omni-Slash
pay for all your programs through over taxation.... How in the hell are our taxes so terrible? Hell Obama just lowered taxes permanently for every making under 250,000. I swear some people go ape **** when the word "tax" comes into a conversation.
Meh. I call bullcrap on this article from "The Washington Monthly"? No legitimate news organization has said anything about it. Just bluster to get people worked up. Call me when there something really bad the GOP is doing.
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] That's my understanding of what is being advocated. If you have a different link that says otherwise I'll be happy to look.nocoolnamejim
:lol:..it's your understanding based of liberal leaning analysis of ONE story..hell if it's on the webs it MUST be true.....the hypcrocy is painful....i'lk wait until I can see if there are other view-points that are being released..... Actually, it's my understanding after reading the text of the document itself. Link The document itself is a part of reality, therefore it is liberally biased.
[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]The Democrats at least passed healthcare, care for 9/11 victims, repeal of DADT, and other progressive legislation in the past couple of years. What have the Republicans done besides drag us into the gutter?HoolaHoopMan
pay for all your programs through over taxation.... How in the hell are our taxes so terrible? Hell Obama just lowered taxes permanently for every making under 250,000. I swear some people go ape **** when the word "tax" comes into a conversation.
let it go hoolahoopman,since Obama's election you've seen the response.
Actually, it's my understanding after reading the text of the document itself. Linknocoolnamejim
you obviously didn't...yes it says forcible rape...acts of incest...or a minor...you're right..it doesn;t specifically mention mentally retarded individuals...I'm gonna guess that makes it through the final process..... :| damn them evil republicans....they want to end teh world for everyone..
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