Rate Tha Rapper Vol. 2: Eminem

9.5/10 The best rapper since Tupac, perhaps even better. (I want toput 10/10 but a true reviewer never does that)

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="TM_Darkside"]

If MMLP isn't a classic I don't know what is.

MystikFollower

SSLP and MMLP are both classics.. I would go so far as to say The Eminem Show is a classic as well. Sure, I'm not a true hip hop fan, since most of the other rap I've heard I didn't care for. I know there's plenty of other talent, but Eminem is the only artist I really felt a connection to through his music. We have eerily similar backgrounds in terms of family and upbringing. Anyways though, those first three albums are all CDs I can still put on to this day and listen to from start to finish, and love every track.

2/10

I'm not really a fan but he does do some good beats.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

7.5/10

an amazing MC, even if he is a little overrated and has fallen off quite a bit over the last 3 albums. slim shady lp, marshall mathers lp and the eminem show are great though...

lazerface216

i know, people act like he's the greatest ever and i just laugh....

greatest ever? nope. great lyricist? yep. what draws me to Em is how relatable his work is to me. my first album's as a youngster were Public Enemy 'Yo Bum Rush The Show' and EPMD's 'Business as Usual' so I've been around. I've heard all that there was to hear in the Rap game while growing up. so while it's easy to say that ppl here in OT place Em on to high of a pedestal I'd like for you to know that not everyone here who raves about Em has only listened to Em. some here have listened to it all, and i'm one of those ppl. so yeah, when i give Em a 10/10 i know what it is that i'm saying. he's an artist that's defied the laws of the rap game, and created one the highest grossing labels in the business. plus, he's made a movie that trumps damn near all other rap movies. he's deserving of such a high score.

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] I don't think any hip-hop fan can say straightfaced that MMLP or SSLP is as good as Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, Enter the 36 Chambers, and the rest of the albums that normally get brought up when people mention the GOAT hip-hop albums.the_new_guy_92

SSLP and MMLP are both classics.. I would go so far as to say The Eminem Show is a classic as well. Sure, I'm not a true hip hop fan, since most of the other rap I've heard I didn't care for. I know there's plenty of other talent, but Eminem is the only artist I really felt a connection to through his music. We have eerily similar backgrounds in terms of family and upbringing. Anyways though, those first three albums are all CDs I can still put on to this day and listen to from start to finish, and love every track.

Except for the fact that Eminem is the (close to?) Highest grossing rappers of all time. When you say classic, we all think of MMLP, SSLP, and TES

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] I don't think any hip-hop fan can say straightfaced that MMLP or SSLP is as good as Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, Enter the 36 Chambers, and the rest of the albums that normally get brought up when people mention the GOAT hip-hop albums.the_new_guy_92

SSLP and MMLP are both classics.. I would go so far as to say The Eminem Show is a classic as well. Sure, I'm not a true hip hop fan, since most of the other rap I've heard I didn't care for. I know there's plenty of other talent, but Eminem is the only artist I really felt a connection to through his music. We have eerily similar backgrounds in terms of family and upbringing. Anyways though, those first three albums are all CDs I can still put on to this day and listen to from start to finish, and love every track.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

SSLP and MMLP are both classics.. I would go so far as to say The Eminem Show is a classic as well. Sure, I'm not a true hip hop fan, since most of the other rap I've heard I didn't care for. I know there's plenty of other talent, but Eminem is the only artist I really felt a connection to through his music. We have eerily similar backgrounds in terms of family and upbringing. Anyways though, those first three albums are all CDs I can still put on to this day and listen to from start to finish, and love every track.

Islandbeats

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="rockerbikie"]0/10nintend-man86

Nothing wrong with Metallica. :|

Anyway, I'd give him a 7-ish/10. I don't think he's great but he's enjoyable from time to time, and better (IMO) than most rappers out there.

Don't see the appeal/10

I really don't like his voice. >_>

[QUOTE="Islandbeats"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] That can be your opinion, but I'm trying to give my unbias view of Eminem and his album. And like I said, I'm sure 95% of hip-hop fans wouldn't put MMLP or SSLP with other GOAT hip-hop albums.the_new_guy_92

I'm familiar with every one of those albums. Just accept that taste is subjective and some people might appreciate Em's work more than others. No one is right or wrong.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] I agree with this. But I would give him an 8. It just irritates me when people overrated him so severely like a lot of post in this thread. zmbi_gmr

i know, people act like he's the greatest ever and i just laugh....

greatest ever? nope. great lyricist? yep. what draws me to Em is how relatable his work is to me. my first album's as a youngster were Public Enemy 'Yo Bum Rush The Show' and EPMD's 'Business as Usual' so I've been around. I've heard all that there was to hear in the Rap game while growing up. so while it's easy to say that ppl here in OT place Em on to high of a pedestal I'd like for you to know that not everyone here who raves about Em has only listened to Em. some here have listened to it all, and i'm one of those ppl. so yeah, when i give Em a 10/10 i know what it is that i'm saying. he's an artist that's defied the laws of the rap game, and created one the highest grossing labels in the business. plus, he's made a movie that trumps damn near all other rap movies. he's deserving of such a high score.

no doubt he's an amazing lyricist and i respect your opinion. nothing from the posts i've read of yours would make me think you don't know your hip hop.

[QUOTE="Islandbeats"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] That can be your opinion, but I'm trying to give my unbias view of Eminem and his album. And like I said, I'm sure 95% of hip-hop fans wouldn't put MMLP or SSLP with other GOAT hip-hop albums.the_new_guy_92

With that said I still consider MMLP to be a classic. Just because I'm a fan Eminems work doesn't mean I cant be taken seriously when it comes to rap music. Everybody has different tastes. Eminems catalogue as a whole is pretty impressive

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="Islandbeats"] I would. Of my group of friends most of them would agree with me and judging by a majoirty of the responses in this thread I think that 95% might be a little off.

TM_Darkside

I'm familiar with every one of those albums. Just accept that taste is subjective and some people might appreciate Em's work more than others. No one is right or wrong.

you're right, taste is subjective. but i'm sorry, if a person says that MMLP is better than illmatic, THEY ARE WRONG.

[QUOTE="TM_Darkside"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] Most of the people in this thread have probably never heard Illmatic, It Was Written, 36 Chambers, Reasonable Doubt, Ready to Die, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Aquemini, the list goes on. So how can their opinions of Em's catalog versus other classic albums be taken seriously?lazerface216

I'm familiar with every one of those albums. Just accept that taste is subjective and some people might appreciate Em's work more than others. No one is right or wrong.

you're right, taste is subjective. but i'm sorry, if a person says that MMLP is better than illmatic, THEY ARE WRONG.

No one in this topic has said MMLP is better than Illmatic...

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="TM_Darkside"]

I'm familiar with every one of those albums. Just accept that taste is subjective and some people might appreciate Em's work more than others. No one is right or wrong.

TM_Darkside

you're right, taste is subjective. but i'm sorry, if a person says that MMLP is better than illmatic, THEY ARE WRONG.

No one in this topic has said MMLP is better than Illmatic...

i was just using that as an example.

Where's Mockingbird? That's one of the best ones.

He's alright, don't listen to him much, 6/10.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i know, people act like he's the greatest ever and i just laugh....

lazerface216

greatest ever? nope. great lyricist? yep. what draws me to Em is how relatable his work is to me. my first album's as a youngster were Public Enemy 'Yo Bum Rush The Show' and EPMD's 'Business as Usual' so I've been around. I've heard all that there was to hear in the Rap game while growing up. so while it's easy to say that ppl here in OT place Em on to high of a pedestal I'd like for you to know that not everyone here who raves about Em has only listened to Em. some here have listened to it all, and i'm one of those ppl. so yeah, when i give Em a 10/10 i know what it is that i'm saying. he's an artist that's defied the laws of the rap game, and created one the highest grossing labels in the business. plus, he's made a movie that trumps damn near all other rap movies. he's deserving of such a high score.

no doubt he's an amazing lyricist and i respect your opinion. nothing from the posts i've read of yours would make me think you don't know your hip hop.

why thank you kind sir!

Where's Mockingbird? That's one of the best ones.

He's alright, don't listen to him much, 6/10.

CBR600-RR

Mockingbird is a song.

It's off his Encore album, which is considered his worst by many. I like the album but it's not on par with Infinite, MMLP, SSLP, Eminem Show and Recovery, IMO.

That can be your opinion, but I'm trying to give my unbias view of Eminem and his album. And like I said, I'm sure 95% of hip-hop fans wouldn't put MMLP or SSLP with other GOAT hip-hop albums.the_new_guy_92

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

Where's Mockingbird? That's one of the best ones.

He's alright, don't listen to him much, 6/10.

TM_Darkside

Mockingbird is a song.

It's off his Encore album, which is considered his worst by many. I like the album but it's not on par with Infinite, MMLP, SSLP, Eminem Show and Recovery, IMO.

[QUOTE="Islandbeats"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

the_new_guy_92

it surprises me a little that you put Aquemini before ATLiens or Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.

Most of the people in this thread have probably never heard Illmatic, It Was Written, 36 Chambers, Reasonable Doubt, Ready to Die, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Aquemini, the list goes on. So how can their opinions of Em's catalog versus other classic albums be taken seriously?

the_new_guy_92

So you use a assumption to argue a opinion... smart.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="Islandbeats"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

zmbi_gmr

it surprises me a little that you put Aquemini before ATLiens or Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.

no way, aquemini is outkast's masterpiece. not ONE bad song on that entire album. ATLiens is a very close second, a classic in my opinion too.

8.5, maybe even 9.0/10. It would be higher, but Encore left a bad taste in my mouth.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"] Most of the people in this thread have probably never heard Illmatic, It Was Written, 36 Chambers, Reasonable Doubt, Ready to Die, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Aquemini, the list goes on. So how can their opinions of Em's catalog versus other classic albums be taken seriously?lazerface216

it surprises me a little that you put Aquemini before ATLiens or Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.

no way, aquemini is outkast's masterpiece. not ONE bad song on that entire album. ATLiens is a very close second, a classic in my opinion too.

ATLiens is in my top 5 albums of all time, but i can't argue that Aquemini wasn't a masterpiece.

[QUOTE="TM_Darkside"]

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

Where's Mockingbird? That's one of the best ones.

He's alright, don't listen to him much, 6/10.

CBR600-RR

Mockingbird is a song.

It's off his Encore album, which is considered his worst by many. I like the album but it's not on par with Infinite, MMLP, SSLP, Eminem Show and Recovery, IMO.

Just a mix-up. I thought you were referring to us ranking his albums.

heres my list of the best rappers ever:

Tupac Shakur

Biggie

Eminem

If Em ever saw this, he should be proud, beingup there with Biggie and Tupacis the best treatment a rapper can receive. 10/10 for the guy. Heck, all three of these are ten outta ten.

heres my list of the best rappers ever:

Tupac Shakur

Biggie

Eminem

If Em ever saw this, he should be proud, beingup there with Biggie and Tupacis the best treatment a rapper can receive. 10/10 for the guy. Heck, all three of these are ten outta ten.

phoenix-serpent

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

[QUOTE="phoenix-serpent"]

heres my list of the best rappers ever:

Tupac Shakur

Biggie

Eminem

If Em ever saw this, he should be proud, beingup there with Biggie and Tupacis the best treatment a rapper can receive. 10/10 for the guy. Heck, all three of these are ten outta ten.

Filipino_Rambo

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

ummm why?

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

[QUOTE="phoenix-serpent"]

heres my list of the best rappers ever:

Tupac Shakur

Biggie

Eminem

If Em ever saw this, he should be proud, beingup there with Biggie and Tupacis the best treatment a rapper can receive. 10/10 for the guy. Heck, all three of these are ten outta ten.

zmbi_gmr

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

ummm why?

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

[QUOTE="phoenix-serpent"]

heres my list of the best rappers ever:

Tupac Shakur

Biggie

Eminem

If Em ever saw this, he should be proud, beingup there with Biggie and Tupacis the best treatment a rapper can receive. 10/10 for the guy. Heck, all three of these are ten outta ten.

zmbi_gmr

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

ummm why?

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

Filipino_Rambo

ummm why?

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

I mean no disrespect but Eminem shouldn't be used in the same sentence as Tupac and Big.

Filipino_Rambo

ummm why?

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

Rakim Quote : "Eminem is nasty man, I don't care what color he is. I don't care about none of that nahmean? Real artists respect real artist's man. Especially like a conscious artist that sits down and writes and hears another artist that sits down and does his writing…and he know…a brother nasty. Regardless, you can't take nothing away from his thoughts and his pen, nahmean? Em is nasty man, I tell people to this day…if Em was black…he'd be the next Muhammad Ali man."

Rakim is a rap pioneer, and he shows much respect to the man that you just said doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as BIG and Tupac. i'm not saying Em is better than them, but he deserves respect.

link

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

ummm why?

zmbi_gmr

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

Rakim Quote : "Eminem is nasty man, I don't care what color he is. I don't care about none of that nahmean? Real artists respect real artist's man. Especially like a conscious artist that sits down and writes and hears another artist that sits down and does his writing…and he know…a brother nasty. Regardless, you can't take nothing away from his thoughts and his pen, nahmean? Em is nasty man, I tell people to this day…if Em was black…he'd be the next Muhammad Ali man."

Rakim is a rap pioneer, and he shows much respect to the man that you just said doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as BIG and Tupac. i'm not saying Em is better than them, but he deserves respect.

link

It's called an opinion, if you could quote Tupac and Big stating Eminem is better than them, it still wouldn't change my opinion.

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

ummm why?

SmittyPeppers

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

10/10. growing up in brooklyn listening to jay-z, biggie and busta rhymes all the time - I never liked any of them. I don't like artist that talk about how more money they have then other people... then enter 1999 when I heard As The World Turns from the Slim Shady LP... I never thought humor and rap would go so well together. My favorite rapper of all-time is Redman and when I heard Eminem I knew he was influenced by Red... couple years later they did a song together, great track.

Eminem can do humor, tell a story, and can sing(see: Hailey's Song, Not Afraid, and As The World Turns)... I prefer versatile hip-hop artist with substance and a dash of humor - so I like Redman, Eminem, Kanye West, Outkast, and Kid Cudi.... in that order. I have others I listen to but I don't buy their music.

[QUOTE="SmittyPeppers"][QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

Toriko42

That's your opinion and I respect it, even though I don't agree with it, I respect it none the less and am not gonna break your balls over it.

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

I don't think Eminem is anywhere as good as Tupac and Big, but that's just my opinion.

Filipino_Rambo

Rakim Quote : "Eminem is nasty man, I don't care what color he is. I don't care about none of that nahmean? Real artists respect real artist's man. Especially like a conscious artist that sits down and writes and hears another artist that sits down and does his writing…and he know…a brother nasty. Regardless, you can't take nothing away from his thoughts and his pen, nahmean? Em is nasty man, I tell people to this day…if Em was black…he'd be the next Muhammad Ali man."

Rakim is a rap pioneer, and he shows much respect to the man that you just said doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as BIG and Tupac. i'm not saying Em is better than them, but he deserves respect.

link

It's called an opinion, if you could quote Tupac and Big stating Eminem is better than them, it still wouldn't change my opinion.

it's an opinion of one of the greats...i'm not trying to change your opinion. i was just hoping that you could specify why he is so undeserving is all.

[QUOTE="Filipino_Rambo"]

[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

Rakim Quote : "Eminem is nasty man, I don't care what color he is. I don't care about none of that nahmean? Real artists respect real artist's man. Especially like a conscious artist that sits down and writes and hears another artist that sits down and does his writing…and he know…a brother nasty. Regardless, you can't take nothing away from his thoughts and his pen, nahmean? Em is nasty man, I tell people to this day…if Em was black…he'd be the next Muhammad Ali man."

Rakim is a rap pioneer, and he shows much respect to the man that you just said doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as BIG and Tupac. i'm not saying Em is better than them, but he deserves respect.

link

zmbi_gmr

It's called an opinion, if you could quote Tupac and Big stating Eminem is better than them, it still wouldn't change my opinion.

it's an opinion of one of the greats...i'm not trying to change your opinion. i was just hoping that you could specify why he is so undeserving is all.

I've listened to some of his stuff but it really never appealed to me, not much of today's rap really does.

0/10rockerbikie