Reasons why aliens don't exist.

1. If the government knew, or a number of people knew aliens existed, why aren't there more people coming forward trying to capitalize on it by selling books, movie deals, or interview time.

2. How come all the videos are blurry clips that only last a few minutes.

3. How come whenever a picture is released, only one is released and it's usually a little blurry. You would think that someone who just happened to have a camera around when a spaceship flies by would take more than one picture. And on top of that, you'd think they'd claim rights to it and sell the pictures.

4. How come there aren't occurences that are caught on film while filming live on tv. You would think they'd capture that occasionally.

5. How come all aliens look the same, as in movie aliens. Is it because if they looked liked demons, or what society thinks a demon looks like, they wouldn't believe in aliens? You'd instead be proving demons exist.

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I'm skeptical, these are my main reasons for not believing in the alien hype. If you have some more reasons for not believing in aliens, please add them to see how others are justifying excusing these common reasons why aliens don't exist.

Our universe is billions of years old. To think that the universe waited for us to develop is plain ignorance. Also people think aliens should be like the ones in movies. But they can also be bacteria. Get served.

Our universe is billions of years old. To think that the universe waited for us to develop is plain ignorance. Also people think aliens should be like the ones in movies. But they can also be bacteria. Get served.

Rutzfuz

Not to mention the billion or so galaxies just floating around, to think we are the only planet in a large galaxy out of a billion is also a bit ignorant.

I don't really think of bacteria when talking about aliens. I usually think of sentient life like us. But we havent hardly seen any of the univers so its dumb to just rule it out because of stuff like your demon theoryCoffee_Blade

Definitions of alien on the Web:

foreigner: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country

transfer property or ownership; "The will aliened the property to the heirs"

stranger: anyone who does not belong in the environment in which they are found

From Google. I proved my point.

Any alien life is probably so far away we'd never come into contact with them

[QUOTE="Coffee_Blade"]I don't really think of bacteria when talking about aliens. I usually think of sentient life like us. But we havent hardly seen any of the univers so its dumb to just rule it out because of stuff like your demon theoryRutzfuz

Definitions of alien on the Web:

foreigner: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country

transfer property or ownership; "The will aliened the property to the heirs"

stranger: anyone who does not belong in the environment in which they are found

From Google. I proved my point.

It seems to me that the fact that all of our documented supposed alien encounters were probably not alien encounters does not imply that aliens in general don't exist. Just on statistical grounds it seems unreasonable to suppose that we are the only form of life in the entire universe.

1. If the government knew, or a number of people knew aliens existed, why aren't there more people coming forward trying to capitalize on it by selling books, movie deals, or interview time.

There are tons of these people.

2. How come all the videos are blurry clips that only last a few minutes.
There are videos that last a lot longer.
3. How come whenever a picture is released, only one is released and it's usually a little blurry. You would think that someone who just happened to have a camera around when a spaceship flies by would take more than one picture. And on top of that, you'd think they'd claim rights to it and sell the pictures.

There are videos that are like half an hour long for some sightings.
4. How come there aren't occurences that are caught on film while filming live on tv. You would think they'd capture that occasionally.

There are.
5. How come all aliens look the same, as in movie aliens. Is it because if they looked liked demons, or what society thinks a demon looks like, they wouldn't believe in aliens? You'd instead be proving demons exist.

Accounts of aliens aren't all alike, although they're probably made up anyways, as are a great deal of sightings.

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I'm skeptical, these are my main reasons for not believing in the alien hype. If you have some more reasons for not believing in aliens, please add them to see how others are justifying excusing these common reasons why aliens don't exist.

Fizz111

UFOs are real, whether or not they're ships or alien in origin is what is in question.

Why not get everyone at your school together who saw it and get a news station down there for an interview? Spread the word, capitalize on it. I don't understand that. Well saying we don't know is one thing, but saying they exist is another. There is a lot of stuff we don't know. But that doesn't justify things into existence by our imaginations.Fizz111

It seems to me that the fact that all of our documented supposed alien encounters were probably not alien encounters does not imply that aliens in general don't exist. Just on statistical grounds it seems unreasonable to suppose that we are the only form of life in the entire universe.

GabuEx

You can't make a logical, coherent argument as to why space aliens don't exist. Not only are the mathematical odds against you, but common sense says that we're not the only ones in a universe of billions upon billions of stars. I won't even get into the thousands of eye-witness accounts of alien spacecraft and the beings themselves. To me the final pieces of the puzzle were already laid thousands of years ago in the many holy books and ancient writings from around the world (like the Bible), which talk incessantly about encounters with advanced alien beings. There's just too much evidence IMO. Not only do these aliens exist, but they are responsible for the existence of the human race as we know ourselves. They are the missing link.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

It seems to me that the fact that all of our documented supposed alien encounters were probably not alien encounters does not imply that aliens in general don't exist. Just on statistical grounds it seems unreasonable to suppose that we are the only form of life in the entire universe.

Fizz111

Here's a quick statistical summary of the universe:

- Our solar system has 8 planets in it.

- Our galaxy has about 400 billion stars in it.

- Our universe has about 125 billion galaxies in it.

If we make the simplifying assumption that our solar system is a reasonably typical one in our galaxy and that our galaxy is a reasonably typical one in the universe, then doing the math gives us around 400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe.

That's 400 sextillion planets.

To put that in perspective, today we have 185 confirmed planets that we have observed and know about.

Like I said, I feel that it is statistically unreasonable to suppose that, given those numbers, we are the only form of life in the entire universe.

1. If the government knew, or a number of people knew aliens existed, why aren't there more people coming forward trying to capitalize on it by selling books, movie deals, or interview time.

2. How come all the videos are blurry clips that only last a few minutes.

3. How come whenever a picture is released, only one is released and it's usually a little blurry. You would think that someone who just happened to have a camera around when a spaceship flies by would take more than one picture. And on top of that, you'd think they'd claim rights to it and sell the pictures.

4. How come there aren't occurences that are caught on film while filming live on tv. You would think they'd capture that occasionally.

5. How come all aliens look the same, as in movie aliens. Is it because if they looked liked demons, or what society thinks a demon looks like, they wouldn't believe in aliens? You'd instead be proving demons exist.

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I'm skeptical, these are my main reasons for not believing in the alien hype. If you have some more reasons for not believing in aliens, please add them to see how others are justifying excusing these common reasons why aliens don't exist.

Fizz111

Those are all nice points, but they don't really have anything to do with whether or not aliens EXIST.

You can't make a logical, coherent argument as to why space aliens don't exist. Not only are the mathematical odds against you, but common sense says that we're not the only ones in a universe of billions upon billions of stars. I won't even get into the thousands of eye-witness accounts of alien spacecraft and the beings themselves. To me the final pieces of the puzzle were already laid thousands of years ago in the many holy books and ancient writings from around the world (like the Bible), which talk incessantly about encounters with advanced alien beings. There's just too much evidence IMO. Not only do these aliens exist, but they are responsible for the existence of the human race as we know ourselves. They are the missing link.

hartsickdiscipl

You wanna bring the bible into this? Alright, I'm game.

Let's explore the justifications that could be used to explain the existence of aliens:

Jesus Christ died for all men not aliens as Romans 5:17-18 says:

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Aliens do not exist because God only created life on earth. Genesis 6:11-14, emphatically declares that all flesh is on earth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

I have concisely proven that aliens do not exist. Neither is there a half-breed of men. For all men are created in the image of God as Genesis 1:27 states, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

You can't make a logical, coherent argument as to why space aliens don't exist. Not only are the mathematical odds against you, but common sense says that we're not the only ones in a universe of billions upon billions of stars. I won't even get into the thousands of eye-witness accounts of alien spacecraft and the beings themselves. To me the final pieces of the puzzle were already laid thousands of years ago in the many holy books and ancient writings from around the world (like the Bible), which talk incessantly about encounters with advanced alien beings. There's just too much evidence IMO. Not only do these aliens exist, but they are responsible for the existence of the human race as we know ourselves. They are the missing link.

hartsickdiscipl

While I strongly suspect that extraterrestrial life exists, I'd like to point out that no one even KNOWS the mathematical odds in question, and that "common sense" really doesn't mean anything when discussing empirical claims. What most people deem to be obviously true doesn't really hold any weight without actual hard facts which inevitably lead to "common sense" actually being TRUE.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You can't make a logical, coherent argument as to why space aliens don't exist. Not only are the mathematical odds against you, but common sense says that we're not the only ones in a universe of billions upon billions of stars. I won't even get into the thousands of eye-witness accounts of alien spacecraft and the beings themselves. To me the final pieces of the puzzle were already laid thousands of years ago in the many holy books and ancient writings from around the world (like the Bible), which talk incessantly about encounters with advanced alien beings. There's just too much evidence IMO. Not only do these aliens exist, but they are responsible for the existence of the human race as we know ourselves. They are the missing link.

Fizz111

You wanna bring the bible into this? Alright, I'm game.

Let's explore the justifications that could be used to explain the existence of aliens:

Jesus Christ died for all men not aliens as Romans 5:17-18 says:

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Aliens do not exist because God only created life on earth. Genesis 6:11-14, emphatically declares that all flesh is on earth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

I have concisely proven that aliens do not exist. Neither is there a half-breed of men. For all men are created in the image of God as Genesis 1:27 states, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

First, Romans 5 has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not there is life anywhere else other than on Earth. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from.

I think you're forgetting the key to understanding the Bible in context-- It was written by men thousands of years ago who had never seen anything more advanced than a chariot. The only flesh that they were aware of existed on Earth, so nothing that they said applies to anything but what is on the Earth.

When someone says that they're unhappy with the color of their room, and then says- "I'm going to paint EVERYTHING white," they're not saying that they are going to paint the whole universe white. They're referring to the room in which they're in. Anything they described in the Bible was in their own words, with their own understanding of what was going on. Genesis 11 says nothing about the rest of the solar system, galaxy, universe, etc.. nothing. By reading the scripture in context it's clearly only talking about flesh on Earth. And possibly only human flesh, since human wickedness was the subject in question.

There is also the point of what the word "God" meant in the original language of that portion of the Bible. The Hebrew word "Elohim" is the word which the English word "God" was translated from. "Elohim" literally means "those who came from the sky." Think about that one. ;)

You mean intelligent aliens that can travel across space? Probably not, not close for sure, but there are sure other creatures out there.

This thread should be retitled to "Reasons why aliens aren't visiting us".

Those are just generalizations. There is no clear proof, fact, or piece of evidence that aliens exist.

Our universe is so vast, there could be other forms of life out there for all we know. We just don't have the advanced technology capable of finding them, and probably won't in our lifetimes.

That's 400 sextillion planets.

GabuEx

And with all that sex there's bound to be life springing up some where.

[QUOTE="Fizz111"]

1. If the government knew, or a number of people knew aliens existed, why aren't there more people coming forward trying to capitalize on it by selling books, movie deals, or interview time.

2. How come all the videos are blurry clips that only last a few minutes.

3. How come whenever a picture is released, only one is released and it's usually a little blurry. You would think that someone who just happened to have a camera around when a spaceship flies by would take more than one picture. And on top of that, you'd think they'd claim rights to it and sell the pictures.

4. How come there aren't occurences that are caught on film while filming live on tv. You would think they'd capture that occasionally.

5. How come all aliens look the same, as in movie aliens. Is it because if they looked liked demons, or what society thinks a demon looks like, they wouldn't believe in aliens? You'd instead be proving demons exist.

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I'm skeptical, these are my main reasons for not believing in the alien hype. If you have some more reasons for not believing in aliens, please add them to see how others are justifying excusing these common reasons why aliens don't exist.

MrGeezer

Those are all nice points, but they don't really have anything to do with whether or not aliens EXIST.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You can't make a logical, coherent argument as to why space aliens don't exist. Not only are the mathematical odds against you, but common sense says that we're not the only ones in a universe of billions upon billions of stars. I won't even get into the thousands of eye-witness accounts of alien spacecraft and the beings themselves. To me the final pieces of the puzzle were already laid thousands of years ago in the many holy books and ancient writings from around the world (like the Bible), which talk incessantly about encounters with advanced alien beings. There's just too much evidence IMO. Not only do these aliens exist, but they are responsible for the existence of the human race as we know ourselves. They are the missing link.

hartsickdiscipl

You wanna bring the bible into this? Alright, I'm game.

Let's explore the justifications that could be used to explain the existence of aliens:

Jesus Christ died for all men not aliens as Romans 5:17-18 says:

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Aliens do not exist because God only created life on earth. Genesis 6:11-14, emphatically declares that all flesh is on earth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

I have concisely proven that aliens do not exist. Neither is there a half-breed of men. For all men are created in the image of God as Genesis 1:27 states, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

First, Romans 5 has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not there is life anywhere else other than on Earth. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from.

I think you're forgetting the key to understanding the Bible in context-- It was written by men thousands of years ago who had never seen anything more advanced than a chariot. The only flesh that they were aware of existed on Earth, so nothing that they said applies to anything but what is on the Earth.

When someone says that they're unhappy with the color of their room, and then says- "I'm going to paint EVERYTHING white," they're not saying that they are going to paint the whole universe white. They're referring to the room in which they're in. Anything they described in the Bible was in their own words, with their own understanding of what was going on. Genesis 11 says nothing about the rest of the solar system, galaxy, universe, etc.. nothing. By reading the scripture in context it's clearly only talking about flesh on Earth. And possibly only human flesh, since human wickedness was the subject in question.

There is also the point of what the word "God" meant in the original language of that portion of the Bible. The Hebrew word "Elohim" is the word which the English word "God" was translated from. "Elohim" literally means "those who came from the sky." Think about that one. ;)

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Talking nonsense with pretty words isn't any way to win an argument.

If they don't exist then who built my house?UT_Wrestler

Your proofs are fallacious. Just because we haven't detected or observed aliens to a certain standard does not conclusively show that they aren't around to be detected and observed.

Besides, the laws of physics suggest that if there are any extraterrestials out there, the chances of us meeting and communicating with them within our few or so decades of sufficient technological status are pretty damn small.

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[QUOTE="Fizz111"]

You wanna bring the bible into this? Alright, I'm game.

Let's explore the justifications that could be used to explain the existence of aliens:

Jesus Christ died for all men not aliens as Romans 5:17-18 says:

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Aliens do not exist because God only created life on earth. Genesis 6:11-14, emphatically declares that all flesh is on earth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

I have concisely proven that aliens do not exist. Neither is there a half-breed of men. For all men are created in the image of God as Genesis 1:27 states, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

Fizz111

First, Romans 5 has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not there is life anywhere else other than on Earth. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from.

I think you're forgetting the key to understanding the Bible in context-- It was written by men thousands of years ago who had never seen anything more advanced than a chariot. The only flesh that they were aware of existed on Earth, so nothing that they said applies to anything but what is on the Earth.

When someone says that they're unhappy with the color of their room, and then says- "I'm going to paint EVERYTHING white," they're not saying that they are going to paint the whole universe white. They're referring to the room in which they're in. Anything they described in the Bible was in their own words, with their own understanding of what was going on. Genesis 11 says nothing about the rest of the solar system, galaxy, universe, etc.. nothing. By reading the scripture in context it's clearly only talking about flesh on Earth. And possibly only human flesh, since human wickedness was the subject in question.

There is also the point of what the word "God" meant in the original language of that portion of the Bible. The Hebrew word "Elohim" is the word which the English word "God" was translated from. "Elohim" literally means "those who came from the sky." Think about that one. ;)

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Talking nonsense with pretty words isn't any way to win an argument.

lmfao.. nice comeback.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Fizz111"]

1. If the government knew, or a number of people knew aliens existed, why aren't there more people coming forward trying to capitalize on it by selling books, movie deals, or interview time.

2. How come all the videos are blurry clips that only last a few minutes.

3. How come whenever a picture is released, only one is released and it's usually a little blurry. You would think that someone who just happened to have a camera around when a spaceship flies by would take more than one picture. And on top of that, you'd think they'd claim rights to it and sell the pictures.

4. How come there aren't occurences that are caught on film while filming live on tv. You would think they'd capture that occasionally.

5. How come all aliens look the same, as in movie aliens. Is it because if they looked liked demons, or what society thinks a demon looks like, they wouldn't believe in aliens? You'd instead be proving demons exist.

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I'm skeptical, these are my main reasons for not believing in the alien hype. If you have some more reasons for not believing in aliens, please add them to see how others are justifying excusing these common reasons why aliens don't exist.

VaguelyTagged

Those are all nice points, but they don't really have anything to do with whether or not aliens EXIST.

Go ahead and tell me all of the SPECIFIC conditions in which life can form.

Then go on and tell me how often life WILL form when the basic necessary conditions exist.

Then go and give me a number concerning how many worlds exist in the universe which have thosespecific conditions.

See...people like to assume that life is more common than previously thought, by ASSUMING things such as that life doesn't have to be carbon based. But we can go the other way as well. We can ASSUME that certain conditions which led to life forming on Earth will be present somewhere else in the univerese. That DOESN'T mean that abiogenesis is dependant on known factors that we are able to detect.

The thing is...when we talkabout life on other worlds, we are primarily talking about abiogenesis. And we don't know NEARLY enough to make ANY kinds of universal claims about abiogenesis. If we admit that our lack of knowledge about abiogenesis mwans that alien life might be far more common than previously thought, then we admit that our lack of knowledge about abiogenesis means that alien life might be far LESS common than previously thought.

I've seen a UFO before and was not the only one who seen it.

Aliens do exist here is a clear picture of them right here.

To compare our planet to the total size of the universe is like comparing an atom to the earth.

So to say that we are the only life, is just stupid. Because as you can see the universe is huuuuuuuuuuuuge and really old.

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Those are all nice points, but they don't really have anything to do with whether or not aliens EXIST.

MrGeezer

Go ahead and tell me all of the SPECIFIC conditions in which life can form.

Then go on and tell me how often life WILL form when the basic necessary conditions exist.

Then go and give me a number concerning how many worlds exist in the universe which have thosespecific conditions.

See...people like to assume that life is more common than previously thought, by ASSUMING things such as that life doesn't have to be carbon based. But we can go the other way as well. We can ASSUME that certain conditions which led to life forming on Earth will be present somewhere else in the univerese. That DOESN'T mean that abiogenesis is dependant on known factors that we are able to detect.

The thing is...when we talkabout life on other worlds, we are primarily talking about abiogenesis. And we don't know NEARLY enough to make ANY kinds of universal claims about abiogenesis. If we admit that our lack of knowledge about abiogenesis mwans that alien life might be far more common than previously thought, then we admit that our lack of knowledge about abiogenesis means that alien life might be far LESS common than previously thought.

Why haven't recorded sightings increased exponentially since the 80s? The number of people that carry a camera around them now days is amazingly high compared to the 80s. Now days so many people having a camera on their cell phone.

If anything I think the stories of UFO sightings have decreased and they have become a lot more boring compared to the pre-cell phone camera days. Its a lot harder to come up with a huge amazing story when they can just be asked why didn't you take a picture with your cell phone?

Wait, so because there aren't little green men who have mastered light speed travel there can't be extraterrestrial life? :lol:

Aliens do exist, we just haven't seen any REAL ones yet.the_phenom_

This. Well, I agree that they might exist... But if the alien sightings were real, we would have been attacked by now or seen them up closer...

while i believe aliens exist.

I think it would be fascinating if we found out that we are one of the early advanced species in our galaxy and or universe.

Because we don't have answer to that. I mean it's unlikely, but still if it turned out to be true. i'd be pretty fascinated.

Holy S**t!!^^^