Religion does more bad than good

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TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

you need to die.

just kidding. though i'm sure someone out there feels that way for what you posted :P

edit: i was right. dracargen gets the award.

TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

turgore

That would of course be the result of that countries laws. The religion didn't require it.:roll:

Humans would probably be better off without religion but then they would just find something else to argue about:?tevwalker13

Exactly. Ignorance is human nature, unfortunately.

[QUOTE="turgore"]

TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

Quick-Time

That would of course be the result of that countries laws. The religion didn't require it.:roll:

The law was because of religion and to protect it .

Bigotry (and the people who spout it) need to die.

You're first, TC.

Dracargen

I think it's fanatics that need to die.SOedipus

Very true . Religion should take the backseat of peoples lives .

"It's rude to talk about religion, you never know who you're going to offend."

~Big Fish

I think it's fanatics that need to die.SOedipus

Exactly what I think.

Bigotry (and the people who spout it) need to die.

You're first, TC.

Dracargen

When I went to church not to long ago ( I did it to make my parents happy) all I heard was blah-blah-blah we were persecuted , blah-blah-blah if you die for your faith you go to heaven , blah-blah-blah the end of the world is coming !!!! yet they conveninetly forgot to mention how they killed millions of non christians or the laws of the church in the middle age that killed so many people that were considered "odd"

governments do a lot of harm. should we get rid of those?LoG-Sacrament

my government does no harm . other governments keep their people living in fear.

It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Choga

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Choga

There is too much of that . Why can't I be close to God without the help of the Church ? Why do I have to eat a small piece of bread like the others and call it the body of christ , that would be canibalism , but I eat just a piece of bread . Why do I have to live in fear of the end of the world that never came and many previous generations did the same ( if it comes it will be natural or human made) .

I definitely agree,alot of these wars going on wouldn't existif the people just forgot about religion.nodgenico

Oh, please. How many wars going on now have anything to do with religion, and not, oh, say, money, oil, rescources, people, land, or otherwise?

You have to understand that different cultures have different standards. Islam is a part of their culture, and their society is based around it. To demonize them for their practices is stupid because it is just a different culture with different standards. Now if they were to try and impose this onto western nations, then there would be a problem.Choga

Pfft... that's bullcrap. Any culture that thinks jail time is appropriate for naming a teddy bear is a barbaric culture that has no place in a civilized world.

[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Bigotry (and the people who spout it) need to die.

You're first, TC.

Dracargen

When I went to church not to long ago ( I did it to make my parents happy) all I heard was blah-blah-blah we were persecuted , blah-blah-blah if you die for your faith you go to heaven , blah-blah-blah the end of the world is coming !!!! yet they conveninetly forgot to mention how they killed millions of non christians or the laws of the church in the middle age that killed so many people that were considered "odd"

Good lord, did you just blame people in the here-and-now for something people did hundreds of years ago?:roll: You've got issues.

Know what has killed more than religion? More than all religious conflict in the history of Earth combined?

Science.

If it weren't for science, we wouldn't have guns, we wouldn't have cars that hit and kill people, we wouldn't have planes that malfunction and crash, we wouldn't have the atomic bomb, we wouldn't have electricity to shock, and more.

Should we get rid of science?

That's done more often than you think. The Holocaust, slavery, persecution of Indians, lynching, many people are still held responsible for all of this, even though most of the people who actively participated in all of this are either dead or vegetables.

[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Bigotry (and the people who spout it) need to die.

You're first, TC.

Dracargen

When I went to church not to long ago ( I did it to make my parents happy) all I heard was blah-blah-blah we were persecuted , blah-blah-blah if you die for your faith you go to heaven , blah-blah-blah the end of the world is coming !!!! yet they conveninetly forgot to mention how they killed millions of non christians or the laws of the church in the middle age that killed so many people that were considered "odd"

Good lord, did you just blame people in the here-and-now for something people did hundreds of years ago?:roll: You've got issues.

Know what has killed more than religion? More than all religious conflict in the history of Earth combined?

Science.

If it weren't for science, we wouldn't have guns, we wouldn't have cars that hit and kill people, we wouldn't have planes that malfunction and crash, we wouldn't have the atomic bomb, we wouldn't have electricity to shock, and more.

Should we get rid of science?

Science saved more people , religion saved 0 unless if it depended on science ( eg . a charity buying medicine) .And yet christians still preach about being prosecuted 2000 years ago.

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]governments do a lot of harm. should we get rid of those?turgore

my government does no harm . other governments keep their people living in fear.

i think your problem is less of a religion problem and more of a people problem. people hold many things things dear. sometimes its religion, sometimes its government, sometimes its just consistancy. whatever it is, people will do drastic things to hold on to it. if its not religion, its something else.

[QUOTE="nodgenico"]I definitely agree,alot of these wars going on wouldn't existif the people just forgot about religion.Dracargen

Oh, please. How many wars going on now have anything to do with religion, and not, oh, say, money, oil, rescources, people, land, or otherwise?

In bosnia there was a conflict about religion like 15 years ago ? I advise you to watch the movie "savior" even tho you won't sleep 3 nights in a row or have nightmares. Isn't terrorism today related to religion ?

[QUOTE="Choga"]It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Dracargen

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

[QUOTE="Choga"]You have to understand that different cultures have different standards. Islam is a part of their culture, and their society is based around it. To demonize them for their practices is stupid because it is just a different culture with different standards. Now if they were to try and impose this onto western nations, then there would be a problem.Oleg_Huzwog

Pfft... that's bullcrap. Any culture that thinks jail time is appropriate for naming a teddy bear is a barbaric culture that has no place in a civilized world.

What would you consider the civilized world? Europe and the USA? In that case, focus your energy on outlawing this religion in the western countries rather than demonizing it where it is meant to be practiced.

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="nodgenico"]I definitely agree,alot of these wars going on wouldn't existif the people just forgot about religion.turgore

Oh, please. How many wars going on now have anything to do with religion, and not, oh, say, money, oil, rescources, people, land, or otherwise?

In bosnia there was a conflict about religion like 15 years ago ? I advise you to watch the movie "savior" even tho you won't sleep 3 nights in a row or have nightmares. Isn't terrorism today related to religion ?

Uh, no.:|

Terrorism is caused by, oh, let's see. . . . people wanting things other people have? Greed? But noooooooooooooooooooo, that can never be a cause for war!:roll:

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Choga

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

Your credibility has been destroyed. And if you have no problem with them, why did you just practice Antisemitism?

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TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

turgore

It's a proven fact religion does more harm than good. There are great articles about it at www.godisimaginary.com. One quotes UN reports that clearly show the countries that are most peaceful and least crime ridden are the ones that practice religion the least. Countries that strongly practice religion are also the countries that are most corrupt and impoverished.

It's a proven fact.

[QUOTE="turgore"]

Science saved more people , religion saved 0 unless if it depended on science ( eg . a charity buying medicine) .And yet christians still preach about being prosecuted 2000 years ago.

Dracargen

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

If it wasn't for religion (namely Christianity) aiding the foundation of modern science, a helluva lot less people would be saved!

Not to mention the founding of America, the discovery of the Big Bang, the mapping of the human genome, and other areas of science!

:lol::lol::lol:

Atheist bigots are so amusing, thinking they know everything there is to know about religion and how it ruins everything. . .:lol:

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[QUOTE="Choga"]It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Choga

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

Destroyed european cultures. . .yeah.:roll:

Eye for an eye is in the OT, turn the other cheeck is in the NT. Learn about the Bible before bashing it.:roll:

Jesus was a hippy? Most popular hippy in history.

Christianity does not teach you to be weak. Where did you get that? The Skeptic annotated Bible?:lol:

Well, guess what? If it wasn't for these religions, western society would not exist! We are not going anywhere, so get used to it.

[QUOTE="turgore"]

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TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

TERMINAT0R1

It's a proven fact religion does more harm than good. There are great articles about it at www.godisimaginary.com. One quotes UN reports that clearly show the countries that are most peaceful and least crime ridden are the ones that practice religion the least. Countries that strongly practice religion are also the countries that are most corrupt and impoverished.

It's a proven fact.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Godisimaginary.com? You're honestly pretending that site is credible? MOST OF IT IS SATIRE!!!

:lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Video_Game_King

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

Your credibility has been destroyed. And if you have no problem with them, why did you just practice Antisemitism?

Ad hominem attack of course. Attack the messenger instead of the message. Let me ask you something. Why is it ok to bash Christianity and Islam but not Judaism? Nowhere in my post did I bash Christians, Muslims, or Jews, only their respective religions. Last I checked, the First Amendment was still valid.

[QUOTE="TERMINAT0R1"][QUOTE="turgore"]

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TO spare you the time , in Sudan a teacher lets her 7 year oldstudents name a teddy bear Muhhammad . Now she can get 3 months in prison . It's little things like these daily that make religion more harmfull then good especially in the more radical locations.

Dracargen

It's a proven fact religion does more harm than good. There are great articles about it at www.godisimaginary.com. One quotes UN reports that clearly show the countries that are most peaceful and least crime ridden are the ones that practice religion the least. Countries that strongly practice religion are also the countries that are most corrupt and impoverished.

It's a proven fact.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Godisimaginary.com? You're honestly pretending that site is credible? MOST OF IT IS SATIRE!!!

:lol::lol::lol:

It's not credible? An example?

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

Choga

Which ancient European cultures were destroyed? The group that destroyed the most cultures was the Romans...and they were pagan.

Christianity teaches an eye for an eye is wrong. As for love your enemies...that is intended to not START conflict.

Omg..

Didn't the chuch say Galileo was wrong about the sun being the center of the solar system? Last I checked a lot of Christians don't believe in evolution which is the foundation of biology. Oh, and what about the issue of stem cell research. From what I gather Christianity has hindered science, not helped it.lupinelope

Then you don't gather much.

http://www.grisda.org/bclausen/papers/aid.htm

Got to go.

[QUOTE="Choga"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Choga"]It's not religion that is the cause of such things, it is Semetic religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism). These religions are all based off an ancient Sumerian god of war, and should be practiced ONLY in the fertile crescent/middle east region of the world where it originated. Religion is generally peaceful and offers guidance to a person. Semetic religion is generally contradictory and inconsistent with its values. Dracargen

I don't know what Christianity you're talking about, but it's not the one I follow. . .

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

Destroyed european cultures. . .yeah.:roll:

Eye for an eye is in the OT, turn the other cheeck is in the NT. Learn about the Bible before bashing it.:roll:

Jesus was a hippy? Most popular hippy in history.

Christianity does not teach you to be weak. Where did you get that? The Skeptic annotated Bible?:lol:

Well, guess what? If it wasn't for these religions, western society would not exist! We are not going anywhere, so get used to it.

Guess what, I was a Christian for 14 years. To be a Christian you have to follow the Old AND New Testament. And of course Christianity teaches you to be weak. Turning the other cheek and loving your enemies is most definetally weakness. Oh these religions helped evolve western societies? Oh yea the Dark Ages, I forgot. How about the Romans, Greeks, Dacians, Thracians, Gauls, Celts. All of these were great civilizations. All of them eventually "Christianized". The Dark Ages was the peak of piety in Europe, and we all know that was the PEAK of western civilization.

[QUOTE="turgore"]

Science saved more people , religion saved 0 unless if it depended on science ( eg . a charity buying medicine) .And yet christians still preach about being prosecuted 2000 years ago.

Dracargen

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

If it wasn't for religion (namely Christianity) aiding the foundation of modern science, a helluva lot less people would be saved!

Not to mention the founding of America, the discovery of the Big Bang, the mapping of the human genome, and other areas of science!

:lol::lol::lol:

Atheist bigots are so amusing, thinking they know everything there is to know about religion and how it ruins everything. . .:lol:

Those would've been discovered sooner or later .ANd aren't christians against the big bang theory and agaisnt evolution . Oh and I was catholic at first but then I changed.

Those would've been discovered sooner or later .ANd aren't christians against the big bang theory and agaisnt evolution . Oh and I was catholic at first but then I changed.

turgore

No...Christianity is not against evolution.:roll:

[QUOTE="Choga"]

How about the Christianity that DESTROYED ancient European cultures to replace them with a barbaric and primitive semetic one? The Christianity that says "an eye for an eye" in one part of its book and "turn the other cheek" in the other part. The Christanity that encourages people to bow down and submit to a proto-hippy who died 2000 years ago. The Chrisianity that teaches people to love their enemies and be weak, instead of standing up for themselves and their folk. Christianity and Islam are just spinoffs of a more barbaric religion called Judaism. Again, I have no problem with these religions existing in their places of origin, but they have no place in western society.

LJS9502_basic

Which ancient European cultures were destroyed? The group that destroyed the most cultures was the Romans...and they were pagan.

Christianity teaches an eye for an eye is wrong. As for love your enemies...that is intended to not START conflict.

How about the fact that the practice of age-old European traditions were outlawed because they were heathen? The vikings fought bravely against the Christian onslaught but they too eventually fell. So many pagan idols and places of worship were destroyed to be replaced with churches and such.