Republicans to low-income families: Earning $11,000 is too much

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

Then you have pretty bad vision.:|

Assassin_87

Oh, my mistake.:)

But in all seriousness, if you can't see the difference between a militant fundamentalist and a lax episcopalian then you're not paying attention. There is not a single "brand" of Christian.

Eh.....one wants to repress everything and everyone. The other wants to repress some things and some people. l4dak47

I don't know...the Episcopal church is pretty lax on nearly anything. Homosexual marriages are honored, abortion isn't frowned upon, and even seen as necessary at times, etc.

I'm not Episcopalian, I'm just saying...there isn't much for them to impose on others, politically speaking.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Eh.....one wants to repress everything and everyone. The other wants to repress some things and some people. Assassin_87

I don't know...the Episcopal church is pretty lax on nearly anything. Homosexual marriages are honored, abortion isn't frowned upon, and even seen as necessary at times, etc.

I'm not Episcopalian, I'm just saying...there isn't much for them to impose on others, politically speaking.

[QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

Abbeten

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Its ok we have the best healthcare system in the world. Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

l4dak47

The government is already too big and spends too much money. Why give the government more money to waste away through incompetence or inefficiency? If the government can't even cut into the spending deficit (never mind the actual debt) why even bother giving them more money? This isn't even a republican or democrat issue. This is the simple fact the government is mismanaging the funds it has now and that isn't going to change if you raise taxes for everyone.

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Eh.....one wants to repress everything and everyone. The other wants to repress some things and some people. l4dak47

I don't know...the Episcopal church is pretty lax on nearly anything. Homosexual marriages are honored, abortion isn't frowned upon, and even seen as necessary at times, etc.

I'm not Episcopalian, I'm just saying...there isn't much for them to impose on others, politically speaking.

I guess I'd agree with your original sentiment on a basic level, I just take issue with you making it sound so absolute that all Christians are the same.

For instance, I'm a Christian with decent knowledge of scripture and I pray regularly. However, politically I think it's wrong to use my beliefs in my decision making, when really our government and the regulations we set up should be in the benefit of everyone regardless of faith. Therefore, my personal moral/religious bias has no bearing on my political choices. I am pro-choice, for the legalization of marijuana, and in favor of allowing homosexuals to marry if they so choose.

It's simply not as black and white as you presented at first.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

UnknownSniper65

The government is already too big and spends too much money. Why give the government more money to waste away through incompetence or inefficiency? If the government can't even cut into the spending deficit (never mind the actual debt) why even bother giving them more money? This isn't even a republican or democrat issue. This is the simple fact the government is mismanaging the funds it has now and that isn't going to change if you raise taxes for everyone.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

UnknownSniper65

The government is already too big and spends too much money. Why give the government more money to waste away through incompetence or inefficiency? If the government can't even cut into the spending deficit (never mind the actual debt) why even bother giving them more money? This isn't even a republican or democrat issue. This is the simple fact the government is mismanaging the funds it has now and that isn't going to change if you raise taxes for everyone.

Your right, it's beyond a political party issue. Both sides have been adding to the debt for years, without looking at the long term. With the Congress deadlocked and bickering, this will only get worse. They will pass temporary bills that kick the can down the road, without solving any issues.

The ACA is at least an attempt to fix things, by insuring more, and using specific methods to cut costs. It doesn't go far enough in my mind, but health care is only one contributor to government spending. I think it's all pretty much out of control, but rather than focus on common sense changes, including tax reform, we have one sid calling for tax cuts and the other for just more spending.

None of it makes logical sense, but that is the kind of world we live in today.

[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

ferrari2001

This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?Haziqonfire

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?Wasdie

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?Wasdie

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?sSubZerOo

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

Cherry picking a handful of unfortunate cases and whining about them = the entire US system of welfare.

That's all the entire article was. A gross over generalization.

You don't think that other nations don't have similar stories depsite their social programs?

And really, this article made our system out to be 100% ineffective and implies the US is practically a 3rd world country with no future. This is the exact kind of BS that OT loves to jump all over.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

Wasdie

Cherry picking a handful of unfortunate cases and whining about them = the entire US system of welfare.

That's all the entire article was. A gross over generalization.

You don't think that other nations don't have similar stories depsite their social programs?

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="maheo30"]

"The federal government will pay the full cost of the Medicaid expansion through 2016. After that, the states will only pick up 5 percent of the cost through 2019, and 10 percent of the cost thereafter."

With what? The federal government is in deep debt. They can't afford it. My state (Florida) is in debt and can't afford it. But why the hell not? Let's just keep spending money we don't have. Liberals truly do live in a fantasy land. :roll:

UnknownSniper65

The government is already too big and spends too much money. Why give the government more money to waste away through incompetence or inefficiency? If the government can't even cut into the spending deficit (never mind the actual debt) why even bother giving them more money? This isn't even a republican or democrat issue. This is the simple fact the government is mismanaging the funds it has now and that isn't going to change if you raise taxes for everyone.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.

Wasdie

Cherry picking a handful of unfortunate cases and whining about them = the entire US system of welfare.

That's all the entire article was. A gross over generalization.

You don't think that other nations don't have similar stories depsite their social programs?

And really, this article made our system out to be 100% ineffective and implies the US is practically a 3rd world country with no future. This is the exact kind of BS that OT loves to jump all over.

What kind of job only makes 11000 a year? Is she working part time?

A lot of states are tightening Medicaid eligibility. Connecticut (which has a Democrat Governor and Legislature) is tightening eligibility for a certain Medicaid program for low-income adults. Basically CT is worried that the some young-adults are using that program when they are still living with their parents who could afford to buy them health-care through their college. The state is also worried because the program is costing the state more than they expected and they don't want to go broke.

I think it is similar with other states, they are tightening these eligibility requirements because the states don't want to run deficits.

You don't think that other nations don't have similar stories depsite their social programs?

Wasdie

Try living in california where if you have a part time job you make more than the federal poverty line and don't qualify for anything but can't afford anything due to the cost of living.

NailedGR

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Clearly, this is exactly what Jesus would want them to do.LJS9502_basic

A lot of states are tightening Medicaid eligibility. Connecticut (which has a Democrat Governor and Legislature) is tightening eligibility for a certain Medicaid program for low-income adults. Basically CT is worried that the some young-adults are using that program when they are still living with their parents who could afford to buy them health-care through their college. The state is also worried because the program is costing the state more than they expected and they don't want to go broke.

I think it is similar with other states, they are tightening these eligibility requirements because the states don't want to run deficits.

whipassmt

So if you're not living in a shack and eating bugs and soggy bread, you don't deserve to be supported? Nice.

O the wonderfull social programs that the poor uses but the people doing alright pays for.

I'm a bit split on this personally, its important to take care of the people of the country, but part of people on social programs are just to lazy or stupid to make a living. Now before you go all nuts i said a part not all. But i feel it is not the goverment place to hand out free money, but rather regulate the necessitiesof life within a certain extent.

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If you're going to respond to me, at least do so in a hilarious manner. I literally yawned halfway through reading that drivel.

In Mississippi, $8,200 a year is too much.

Aljosa23

Holy mother of f*ck, I'm an 18 year old kid working minimum wage and I get more than this.

Not to mention I'd f*cking drown in expenses if my father wasn't helping me.

wis3boi

11 k a month is too much not yearly ?!!!

This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?Haziqonfire

Slumdog millionaire 2 is being filmed in newyork as we speak.

"She makes about $15,000 a year, supporting her daughter and unemployed husband."

lol xD

Well, we have to have some people to stand on...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]This article reads like it's talking about a third world country. What is this s***?Wasdie

Because the only way to not be a 3rd world country is though massive government entitlement programs. There is no other way at all. Or at least that's what OT thinks.