Republicans to low-income families: Earning $11,000 is too much

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#101 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]LJS9502_basic
Well that was lame. I guess you think everyone reacts as you do. Here's a tissue. Dry your eyes.

I'm sorry you take this forum/the internet so seriously

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#102 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]wis3boi

Well that was lame. I guess you think everyone reacts as you do. Here's a tissue. Dry your eyes.

I'm sorry you take this forum/the internet so seriously

I'm not taking it seriously. Seems you are.:|
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#103 TheWalkingGhost
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So, when are you going to put a ring on our finger?
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#104 mingmao3046
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how do you even make $15,000 a year? thats like a part time minimum wage job
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#105 Serraph105
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"You fall through the cracks and there's nothing you can do about it," said the 52-year-old home health aide. "It makes me feel like garbage, like the American dream, my dream in my homeland is not being accomplished."

Aljosa23

was it honestly being accomplished before Obamacare?

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#106 DroidPhysX
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how do you even make $15,000 a year? thats like a part time minimum wage jobmingmao3046
Working 9-5 @ minimum wage earns you that much.
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#107 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Clearly, this is exactly what Jesus would want them to do.Aljosa23

Jesus was against Obamacare, obviously.

:lol: Jesus in in every one's heart, he's very flexible, he's whoever you want him to be.

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#108 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Eh.....one wants to repress everything and everyone. The other wants to repress some things and some people. Assassin_87

I don't know...the Episcopal church is pretty lax on nearly anything. Homosexual marriages are honored, abortion isn't frowned upon, and even seen as necessary at times, etc.

I'm not Episcopalian, I'm just saying...there isn't much for them to impose on others, politically speaking.

that's just following the trend, it's not much, but it's progress I guess. If there's no trend to begin with, their ideology would naturally lead them to imposing ideas on others, it's the nature of religion.

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#109 DaBrainz
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Perhaps if we spent less money on corporate welfare and useless wars we could afford to take care of our poor people. Damn liberals.
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#110 LJS9502_basic
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Perhaps if we spent less money on corporate welfare and useless wars we could afford to take care of our poor people. Damn liberals.DaBrainz
Less foreign aid....
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#111 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

In Mississippi, $8,200 a year is too much.

Jazz_Fan

Holy mother of f*ck, I'm an 18 year old kid working minimum wage and I get more than this.

Not to mention I'd f*cking drown in expenses if my father wasn't helping me.

Seems like there's an association between %religious and %heartless, at least when we look at distinctions between US states.

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#112 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

In Mississippi, $8,200 a year is too much.

Ncsoftlover

Holy mother of f*ck, I'm an 18 year old kid working minimum wage and I get more than this.

Not to mention I'd f*cking drown in expenses if my father wasn't helping me.

Seems like there's an association between %religious and %heartless, at least when we look at distinctions between US states.

No. Don't paint all religious as the same. But states do vary by cost of living. Not saying $8200 is wealthy in any state but there is a difference between Mississippi and say California, Texas, or New York that simple numbers don't tell.
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#113 RenegadePatriot
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Will the government ever get it right?
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#114 JohnF111
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That's the problem. Those are the people I want my tax dollars going towards helping - the ones that actually work. It's the low end blue collar workers that get the short end of the stick. If you don't work at all, you get the benefit of all these social programs, but if you actually get off your ass and put some effort in, they punish you.

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Yeah it's the same in UK, junkies and lazy ass people get everything available, people who work in a low end job struggling to get by can't get anything "Oh but you're working you can buy it yourself", "Ah you have a job so therefore you can't get this". Even the people working with these plans shake their heads at how the system works, too many dirty stinking junkies all walking around with more money in their pockets (or should I say in their veins) than a mother of two gets in a week.
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#115 xscrapzx
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It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

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#116 Abbeten
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It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

xscrapzx
Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?
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#117 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

Abbeten
Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?

They don't always. That's why some procedures take some time to get done....
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#118 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

Abbeten
Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?

Because we were dumb enough to implement tax cuts in the middle of two wars.
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Perhaps if we spent less money on corporate welfare and useless wars we could afford to take care of our poor people. Damn liberals.DaBrainz
bailouts were nessasary derp and helped in the long run.

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#120 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

LJS9502_basic
Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?

They don't always. That's why some procedures take some time to get done....

Non urgent procedures can sometimes have a small wait time but it's nothing drastic. Small price to pay for financial security for the lower and middle classes.
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#121 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

Abbeten

Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?

The US apparently has the highest health care spending per capita.

So either the system is not efficient, or medical costs became unrealistically expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_(PPP)_per_capita

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#122 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

Ncsoftlover

Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?

The US apparently has the highest health care spending per capita.

So either the system is not efficient, or medical costs became unrealistically expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_(PPP)_per_capita

We have the highest health care spending per capita because our private sector system is uniquely inefficient.
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#123 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?Abbeten
They don't always. That's why some procedures take some time to get done....

Non urgent procedures can sometimes have a small wait time but it's nothing drastic. Small price to pay for financial security for the lower and middle classes.

hardly even a "price" considering there's no real evidence this perceived long "Wait time" has hindered quality of treatment.

Afterall, the average life expectancy of every developed nation is significantly longer than the US, including some developing nations.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

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#124 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="Abbeten"] Why does every other first world government have the money but not us?Abbeten

The US apparently has the highest health care spending per capita.

So either the system is not efficient, or medical costs became unrealistically expensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_(PPP)_per_capita

We have the highest health care spending per capita because our private sector system is uniquely inefficient.

so it's not a "lack of money" issue then...

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#125 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They don't always. That's why some procedures take some time to get done....Ncsoftlover

Non urgent procedures can sometimes have a small wait time but it's nothing drastic. Small price to pay for financial security for the lower and middle classes.

hardly even a "price" considering there's no real evidence this perceived long "Wait time" has hindered quality of treatment.

Afterall, the average life expectancy of every developed nation is significantly longer than the US, including some developing nations.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

Canada has arguably the worst implementation of universal healthcare in the first world and the average wait time for non-critical procedures is about four weeks. But for some reason, people think that millions of people not having access to healthcare is a small price to pay for the people who DO have access to be able to get super quick service. Even though that doesn't really help anything.
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#126 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Perhaps if we spent less money on corporate welfare and useless wars we could afford to take care of our poor people. Damn liberals.TopTierHustler

bailouts were nessasary derp and helped in the long run.

Yeah all those GM workers almost had to sell their vacation houses up north. Glad we could save them.
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#127 -Sun_Tzu-
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It unfortunate that some people can't afford healthcare, but at the end of the day if the government doesn't have the moeny they don't have the money.

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Except these state governments do have the money available to them, they are just choosing not to use it.
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#128 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Clearly, this is exactly what Jesus would want them to do.Aljosa23

Jesus was against Obamacare, obviously.

Oh gee.....I wondered what happened to my post? Smh...... someone is a real crybaby.
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#129 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]Clearly, this is exactly what Jesus would want them to do.l4dak47

Jesus was against Obamacare, obviously.

Oh gee.....I wondered what happened to my post? Smh...... someone is a real crybaby.

I probably know who would take up that moderation too.
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#130 TopTierHustler
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[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Perhaps if we spent less money on corporate welfare and useless wars we could afford to take care of our poor people. Damn liberals.DaBrainz

bailouts were nessasary derp and helped in the long run.

Yeah all those GM workers almost had to sell their vacation houses up north. Glad we could save them.

I feel like you're completely disconnected from the middle class. Or just stupid.

Probably both.