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I do find it disturbing how similar the current right wing politics in the U.S. are to those of the nazi party.
yoshi-lnex

The KKK, National Vanguard, NSM, and other White Nationalist organizations have grown in recent months. Membership has risen.

This is a direct result of illegal immigration. The US government is not doing it's job, so people turn to more hardcore organizations for help.

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#102 NathanHawkins

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Lincoln was considered a left winger at the time he freed the slaves.....study history man....yoshi-lnex

Would he be considered that by today's standards?

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#103 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]
I do find it disturbing how similar the current right wing politics in the U.S. are to those of the nazi party.
Stikke

The KKK, National Vanguard, NSM, and other White Nationalist organizations have grown in recent months. Membership has risen.

This is a direct result of illegal immigration. The US government is not doing it's job, so people turn to more hardcore organizations for help.

Yes, it's very unfortunate that people bigotrys encourage them to join racist right wing organizations.....

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#104 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Lincoln was considered a left winger at the time he freed the slaves.....study history man....NathanHawkins

Would he be considered that by today's standards?

that's not relavent.

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#105 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="JayMatthews06"]Yermomsboxx (or whatever), the views of that man are not representative of the Democratic Party - racism isn't really central to their manifesto :roll:

The Republican Party, on the other hand, want to 'preserve' the American race (even though you are all effectively immigrants), thus making you all racists (to an extent).
JayMatthews06

That's funny, because you seemed to make the correlation that the republicans were a racist party, and yet you've listed no examples of any to my one Democrat(and believe me, there are more). And if the "American race" are really immigrants, tell me, who the hell aren't immigrants? Do you think that Asians just magically appeared in Asia 200,000 years ago? With the exception of those that live in the Fertile Crescent, everyone on this earth is an immigrant. It might hurt to learn this, but the truth of the matter is the ones who have the best weaponry and the most money determine who lives where. It's really as simple as that, although I'm sure it doesn't feel good to hear it, comrade.

You've taken what I said out of context, 'comrade'. Of course everybody are effectively immigrants. All I am saying is that it is ironic that the Republican Party are quite recent immigrants and yet want to block out all other immigrants.

What does the immigration being "recent" have to do with anything? Who determines how long a period of time a country must wait before they are no longer considered immigrants? Not you.

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#106 JayMatthews06

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I've had enough of this thread. Bye everyone. I'm sure you will miss me very much. Yoshi can take my place cause he is the only other left-winger in here.

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#107 yermomsboxx

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I've had enough of this thread. Bye everyone. I'm sure you will miss me very much. Yoshi can take my place cause he is the only other left-winger in here.
JayMatthews06

I don't have any ill-will toward you, just a strong difference of opinion. So long, comrade.

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#108 NathanHawkins

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that's not relavent.yoshi-lnex

It's extremely relevant, because the mainstream conservative parties are to whom this conversation applies. I don't intend to change your mind or anyone else's mind in these types of threads. People are close minded too often to consider other opinions seriously enough even when provided with facts. Ignorance is less bliss than dangerous I believe; however, one who is set in his or hers ways will tend to shy from changing them. All I ask is that you or others simply consider it and not insult them.

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[QUOTE="Stikke"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]
I do find it disturbing how similar the current right wing politics in the U.S. are to those of the nazi party.
yoshi-lnex

The KKK, National Vanguard, NSM, and other White Nationalist organizations have grown in recent months. Membership has risen.

This is a direct result of illegal immigration. The US government is not doing it's job, so people turn to more hardcore organizations for help.

Yes, it's very unfortunate that people bigotrys encourage them to join racist right wing organizations.....

Indeed.

Whites will be a minority in 50 years. If you think they are just going to sit and let in happen, you have another thing coming. They are going to fight back.

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#110 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="Stikke"]To JayMattews....

The Right-wing believes is preserving national and racial identity. They believe in a nations right to control it's own borders.

Yeah, haha, you believe a whole lot of things. "A nations right to control it's own borders"? Are you retarded? What you're talking about is some crazy right to go to war over a border dispute, based on some silly xenophobic belief in a nation's culture to be a personal identifier - something that people should accept, tolerate because they are born in a certain country, as opposed to something to choose out of their own free will.

And what the heck is racial identity? What do you have in common with any person of the same skin colour as you? Explain that to me. I certainly don't have anything in common with you.

The Left-wing wants to push multi-culturalism.They want races to mix to the point they cease to exist. They want to destroy all races and cultures. Most notably, European ones.

Hey listen, you retarded, romantic-sentimental nazi Multi-culturalism means just that - different cultures existing side by side or assimilating, creating new cultures. Yet you're talking about how we want to destroy races and cultures. What do you smoke? And what exactly would be the problem with letting the old make way for the new?

Therefore, the radical left are the true bigots.

And the "radical" (haha, what a joke!) right is dominated by people who beat their wives, rape children/animals and murder for fun. What nice company. :)

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#111 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Stikke"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]
I do find it disturbing how similar the current right wing politics in the U.S. are to those of the nazi party.
Stikke

The KKK, National Vanguard, NSM, and other White Nationalist organizations have grown in recent months. Membership has risen.

This is a direct result of illegal immigration. The US government is not doing it's job, so people turn to more hardcore organizations for help.

Yes, it's very unfortunate that people bigotrys encourage them to join racist right wing organizations.....

Indeed.

Whites will be a minority in 50 years. If you think they are just going to sit and let in happen, you have another thing coming. They are going to fight back.

It's kind of sad that people would actually care....

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#113 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

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#114 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Stikke"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]
I do find it disturbing how similar the current right wing politics in the U.S. are to those of the nazi party.
Stikke

The KKK, National Vanguard, NSM, and other White Nationalist organizations have grown in recent months. Membership has risen.

This is a direct result of illegal immigration. The US government is not doing it's job, so people turn to more hardcore organizations for help.

Yes, it's very unfortunate that people bigotrys encourage them to join racist right wing organizations.....

Indeed.

Whites will be a minority in 50 years. If you think they are just going to sit and let in happen, you have another thing coming. They are going to fight back.

How old are you? Do you think a vast majority of people discuss crap like this on pub after work, or what?

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#115 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

Conservatives and other reactionaries in general. I didn't know until now that there was actually a nazi here too (stikke).

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The guy who said "Benderist"...his quote is from Hunter S. Thompson's novel Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas. For those of you who don't know, Hunter S. Thompson was one of the most liberal journalists ever alive.

And I don't know why this thread isn't locked yet, political discussion always ends in flame wars.

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#117 yoshi-lnex

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]
that's not relavent.NathanHawkins

It's extremely relevant, because the mainstream conservative parties are to whom this conversation applies. I don't intend to change your mind or anyone else's mind in these types of threads. People are close minded too often to consider other opinions seriously enough even when provided with facts. Ignorance is less bliss than dangerous I believe; however, one who is set in his or hers ways will tend to shy from changing them. All I ask is that you or others simply consider it and not insult them.

The point was that the slaves were released by a left winger, which lincoln was at that time.

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#118 NathanHawkins

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The guy who said "Benderist"...his quote is from Hunter S. Thompson's novel Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas. For those of you who don't know, Hunter S. Thompson was one of the most liberal journalists ever alive.

And I don't know why this thread isn't locked yet, political discussion always ends in flame wars.crucifine

yep, when the name calling started...it should have been dealt with, moderations and all.

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#119 aRE-you-AFraid

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Christian, American, Conservative, and proud of it!

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#120 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

Conservatives and other reactionaries in general. I didn't know until now that there was actually a nazi here too (stikke).

I'm closer to conservative than liberal, but I've argued enough tonight. Have fun.

p.s. And yes, there are more white supremacists here than you might believe.

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#121 yoshi-lnex

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Just a thought I had yesturday; ultimately, conservatism relys on the idea that humans have come as far as they can and that further human progression and advancement is actually a bad thing, and a hinderance, in the end this leads to wanting socioty to regress, which actually will cause further problems within itself, instead of properly addressing issues.

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#122 doubutsuteki

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Just a thought I had yesturday; ultimately, conservatism relys on the idea that humans have come as far as they can and that further human progression and advancement is actually a bad thing, and a hinderance, in the end this leads to wanting socioty to regress, which actually will cause further problems within itself, instead of properly addressing issues.yoshi-lnex

Yes, that is essentially conservatism. Conservatism in a nutshell.

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Uncloseting only; no anti-Liberal postings ! Stop back tomorrow to notate your brethren ! I'm one !stitch321

That sounded really racist...

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Just a thought I had yesturday; ultimately, conservatism relys on the idea that humans have come as far as they can and that further human progression and advancement is actually a bad thing, and a hinderance, in the end this leads to wanting socioty to regress, which actually will cause further problems within itself, instead of properly addressing issues.yoshi-lnex

Best reply I read all day. Right on!

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#125 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="stitch321"]Uncloseting only; no anti-Liberal postings ! Stop back tomorrow to notate your brethren ! I'm one !irtaylor

That sounded really racist...

Sigh...which race did he offend?

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#126 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="stitch321"]Uncloseting only; no anti-Liberal postings ! Stop back tomorrow to notate your brethren ! I'm one !irtaylor

That sounded really racist...

Uh?

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#127 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

Conservatives and other reactionaries in general. I didn't know until now that there was actually a nazi here too (stikke).

I'm closer to conservative than liberal, but I've argued enough tonight. Have fun.

p.s. And yes, there are more white supremacists here than you might believe.

I never wanted to have a discussion with a conservative. It would never work out.

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#128 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

Conservatives and other reactionaries in general. I didn't know until now that there was actually a nazi here too (stikke).

I'm closer to conservative than liberal, but I've argued enough tonight. Have fun.

p.s. And yes, there are more white supremacists here than you might believe.

I never wanted to have a discussion with a conservative. It would never work out.

Don't be xenophobic now; you are what you despise. That's a great quote in your sig, by the way.

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#129 doubutsuteki

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[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]Haha, thought I'd come back and check how you're doing. OK, let's see, you have totally accepted the holy doctrine that a market economy is the only way to economically organize a society - but you don't say that out loud, unlike the libertarians. You just know it is, and therefore all your ideas concern a capitalist economy. Well, I knew this already... You talk in bold words about ideals - and capitalism! Like you ever held those ideals higher than callous cash payment - what fantasy, that a capitalist society would gain from advocating such contradicting behaviour... Hitler was not pro-capitalism because he called himself a national socialist. Spectacular. Oh, and now you're reading Burke... ZZzz... ZZzz... uh?... Oh damn I fell asleep. I better leave now before you start praying to Jesus - or before you invite the Klan.

Who was this directed toward, just out of curiosity?

Conservatives and other reactionaries in general. I didn't know until now that there was actually a nazi here too (stikke).

I'm closer to conservative than liberal, but I've argued enough tonight. Have fun.

p.s. And yes, there are more white supremacists here than you might believe.

I never wanted to have a discussion with a conservative. It would never work out.

Don't be xenophobic now; you are what you despise. That's a great quote in your sig, by the way.

You are confused.

And yes, it takes a communist (Marx, in this case) to understand capitalism. :P

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#130 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e

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Some of the stupidity being thrown around is this thread never ceases to amaze me. Then again, I expect nothing less from the teenage population that is the OT board.

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#131 doubutsuteki

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Some of the stupidity being thrown around is this thread never ceases to amaze me. Then again, I expect nothing less from the teenage population that is the OT board.LukeAF24

How about adressing that stupidity? So far Stikke has made a complete fool of himself. It should not go unnoticed - moron of the day. Do you feel that someone else would be a better candidate?

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#132 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e

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How about adressing that stupidity? So far Stikke has made a complete fool of himself. It should not go unnoticed - moron of the day. Do you feel that someone else would be a better candidate?
doubutsuteki

I typically don't name names, but typically the bulk of this board, regarding anything political, has absolutely no clue what they are talking about. Be it Conservative or Liberal. Neither has any idea.

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#133 yermomsboxx

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[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]How about adressing that stupidity? So far Stikke has made a complete fool of himself. It should not go unnoticed - moron of the day. Do you feel that someone else would be a better candidate?
LukeAF24

I typically don't name names, but typically the bulk of this board, regarding anything political, has absolutely no clue what they are talking about. Be it Conservative or Liberal. Neither has any idea.

Take the easy way out...

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