Rolling Stone's Updated Greatest Artists of All Time list

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The problem with that list is it's 100 greatest and while some of those artists were influenced in their time...they stopped being an influence...and a list that narrow should certainly focus more on those bands that stood the test of time rather then disappearing. I can see including some of them on a list of specific decades though.LJS9502_basic

But what artist is constantly influential? It seems to me that even the artists that are the absolute biggest influences in their genres have a certain point where they stop being influential.

Again, what artist is constantly influential? The only one I can think of is The Beatles and that's because they quit while they were on top. Even heavy hitters like The Stones are not influential anymore. Their influence was in 60s and part of the 70s.

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Horrible list. Fleetwood Mac aren't even on it? And the Eagles, Neil Young, Elton Joh, Pink Floyd, CCR and Michael Jackson are way, WAY too low...to the point of making the list a joke. There were "groups" on there that clearly were just put into the list to make the magazine and article appeal to a broader and younger audience.

Pirate700

Hey, man, come on, I've had a rough night and I hate the ****ing Eagles!

Anyways, Fleetwood Mac isn't that great, never done anything really defining. Then again never have a lot of those bands on the list, but appealing to broad audiences is what RS does.

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But what artist is constantly influential? It seems to me that even the artists that are the absolute biggest influences in their genres have a certain point where they stop being influential.

GreySeal9

Again, what artist is constantly influential? The only one I can think of is The Beatles and that's because they quit while they were on top. Even heavy hitters like The Stones are influential anymore. Their influences was in 60s and part of the 70s.

They quit because John Lennon left to be with Yoko. I was definitely NOT a business decision.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]When you make the list of 100 greatest the artists should be relevant to that. And not put on a list to fill it up. IMO. And there was filler on there.Johnny_Rock

Again, what artist is constantly influential? The only one I can think of is The Beatles and that's because they quit while they were on top. Even heavy hitters like The Stones are influential anymore. Their influences was in 60s and part of the 70s.

They quit because John Lennon left to be with Yoko. I was definitely NOT a business decision.

I don't think it was Yoko. It think it was all ready existing tensions that Yoko maybe inflamed.

I'm not saying they quit while they were on top on purpose. I'm only saying that they were still making some of their best stuff when they broke up.

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But what artist is constantly influential? It seems to me that even the artists that are the absolute biggest influences in their genres have a certain point where they stop being influential.

GreySeal9

Again, what artist is constantly influential? The only one I can think of is The Beatles and that's because they quit while they were on top. Even heavy hitters like The Stones are not influential anymore. Their influence was in 60s and part of the 70s.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]The Sex Pistols (with a few other bands such as Iggy and the Stooges) invented one of the biggest umbrella genres in rock music, regardless of their one album status.Same goes for Buddy Holly. He was recording for what, 4 years, before he died? Yet he is a founding father of rock as we know it.GreySeal9

"Better" is totally subjective.

And in the pop genre, there are few artists with more clout than Madonna regardless of one thinks of her music. Had tons of classics, tons of imitators, revolutionized the pop stage show, was one of the first female artists to have full control of her brand and musical direction, and has some sonic diversity than nearly any other pop star besides Prince.

It actually seems ridiculous to include pop and not have Madonna on the list. She simply has too much clout in the genre.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]When you make the list of 100 greatest the artists should be relevant to that. And not put on a list to fill it up. IMO. And there was filler on there.LJS9502_basic

Again, what artist is constantly influential? The only one I can think of is The Beatles and that's because they quit while they were on top. Even heavy hitters like The Stones are not influential anymore. Their influence was in 60s and part of the 70s.

I didn't say it was a business decision.

When I say they broke up while they were on top, I mean that they were still putting out some of their best material and were still extremely popular. I didn't say they broke up because they were on top.

Nowhere did I say anything about business.

Eminem & Beastie Boys over 2Pac....

Beach Boys over the Temptations, Led Zeppelin, and Stevie Wonder? F*** outta here...

MJ is too low

Bob Dylan number 2?

Janis Joplin = Most overrated artist ever

This list is pretty garbage imo...

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I still don't see them as one of the 100 greatest artists. Too many better artists got bumped. Then again...I wouldn't put Madonna there either. LJS9502_basic

"Better" is totally subjective.

And in the pop genre, there are few artists with more clout than Madonna regardless of one thinks of her music. Had tons of classics, tons of imitators, revolutionized the pop stage show, was one of the first female artists to have full control of her brand and musical direction, and has some sonic diversity than nearly any other pop star besides Prince.

It actually seems ridiculous to include pop and not have Madonna on the list. She simply has too much clout in the genre.

That is merely your opinion and in no way is RS required to share it.

The music doesn't have to be "innovative". Do you think Elvis was innovative? But some of Madonna's later music is actually more avant-garde than pop music usually is, tho not innovative.

Image helped, but in no way can you demonstrate that the only reason she sold was image.

Also, Madonna is an artist even if you think pop is fluff.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I still don't see them as one of the 100 greatest artists. Too many better artists got bumped. Then again...I wouldn't put Madonna there either. LJS9502_basic

"Better" is totally subjective.

And in the pop genre, there are few artists with more clout than Madonna regardless of one thinks of her music. Had tons of classics, tons of imitators, revolutionized the pop stage show, was one of the first female artists to have full control of her brand and musical direction, and has some sonic diversity than nearly any other pop star besides Prince.

It actually seems ridiculous to include pop and not have Madonna on the list. She simply has too much clout in the genre.

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

"Better" is totally subjective.

And in the pop genre, there are few artists with more clout than Madonna regardless of one thinks of her music. Had tons of classics, tons of imitators, revolutionized the pop stage show, was one of the first female artists to have full control of her brand and musical direction, and has some sonic diversity than nearly any other pop star besides Prince.

It actually seems ridiculous to include pop and not have Madonna on the list. She simply has too much clout in the genre.

Johnny_Rock

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Pop is fluff. And her music wasn't innovative. She sold an image. Which is fine...but then the list is about artists.LJS9502_basic

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Pop is fluff. And her music wasn't innovative. She sold an image. Which is fine...but then the list is about artists.LJS9502_basic

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

She has lip-synched before, and there is part where she's dancing and some background vocals will be playing, but her vocals are live for the most part.

Still, her Blonde Ambition Tour pretty much changed the way live shows were approached in the pop genre. Her shows are almost theatrical and you can see that in other people's shows these days.

I'm gonna throw this out there...KISS needs to be on that list also. >.>

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

Pirate700

The thing is, if you leave Madonna off the list, you pretty much have to leave pop music off the list period (or the list simply doesn't make sense), which they're simply not going to do.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]She lip syncs though....GreySeal9

The thing is, if you leave Madonna off the list, you pretty much have to leave pop music off the list period (or the list simply doesn't make sense), which they're simply not going to do.

I'm gonna throw this out there...KISS needs to be on that list also. >.>

Pirate700

I don't know about that one. I think if you made a list of the best live performers (hardly any rock bands put on a show like them), they would be an obvious choice and would be pretty high up there, but I wouldn't put them on a GOAT list.

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I'm gonna throw this out there...KISS needs to be on that list also. >.>

GreySeal9

I don't know about that one. I think if you made a list of the best live performers (hardly any rock bands put on a show like them), they would be an obvious choice and would be pretty high up there, but I wouldn't put them on a GOAT list.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Pop is fluff. And her music wasn't innovative. She sold an image. Which is fine...but then the list is about artists.LJS9502_basic

I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

Not any of the live shows I have been to. You seriously can tell the difference.

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I'm gonna throw this out there...KISS needs to be on that list also. >.>

Pirate700

I don't know about that one. I think if you made a list of the best live performers (hardly any rock bands put on a show like them), they would be an obvious choice and would be pretty high up there, but I wouldn't put them on a GOAT list.

I can understand why you want to put them on there. And, even tho I'm not a big fan of their recordings, to have that kind of charisma on stage makes you special.

My top 5 bands of all time...

1. Iron Maiden (surprised, really?)

2. Yes

3. XTC

4. Tears for Fears

5. Prince

I don't know why I felt the need to get that out of the way.

My top 5 bands of all time...

1. Iron Maiden (surprised, really?)

2. Yes

3. XTC

4. Tears for Fears

5. Prince

I don't know why I felt the need to get that out of the way.

Johnny_Rock

Prince is **** amazing.

When I said that Madonna is one of the most musically diverse pop artists, I said "one of the most" because, as diverse as she is, Prince blows her out of the water in that respect. There is simply no genre that man cannot tackle.

Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

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I saw Madonna at least 10 times live. That woman IS an artist.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]She lip syncs though....LJS9502_basic

Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

Pirate700

Yeah. They're on there.

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Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

GreySeal9

Yeah. They're on there.

Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

Pirate700

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Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

LJS9502_basic

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Did I miss the Supremes on there also by chance?

Pirate700

Yeah. They're on there.

Yeah, I'm glad they're in there as well. Love the Supremes. They pretty much defined female pop groups.

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Yeah. They're on there.

GreySeal9

Yeah, I'm glad they're in there as well. Love the Supremes. They pretty much defined female pop groups.

My top 5 bands of all time...

1. Iron Maiden (surprised, really?)

2. Yes

3. XTC

4. Tears for Fears

5. Prince

I don't know why I felt the need to get that out of the way.

Johnny_Rock

yes for YES.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

My top 5 bands of all time...

1. Iron Maiden (surprised, really?)

2. Yes

3. XTC

4. Tears for Fears

5. Prince

I don't know why I felt the need to get that out of the way.

GreySeal9

Prince is **** amazing.

When I said that Madonna is one of the most musically diverse pop artists, I said "one of the most" because, as diverse as she is, Prince blows her out of the water in that respect. There is simply no genre that man cannot tackle.

As a singular artist, that man is god. No one can even touch him. From "For You" to "Lovesexy" he owned my musical soul.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Ok good. I skimmed threw there pretty fast. Thanks.

Pirate700

Yeah, I'm glad they're in there as well. Love the Supremes. They pretty much defined female pop groups.

Love them too. I probably like The Supremes a bit better, but they come pretty damn close.

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[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

My top 5 bands of all time...

1. Iron Maiden (surprised, really?)

2. Yes

3. XTC

4. Tears for Fears

5. Prince

I don't know why I felt the need to get that out of the way.

Johnny_Rock

Prince is **** amazing.

When I said that Madonna is one of the most musically diverse pop artists, I said "one of the most" because, as diverse as she is, Prince blows her out of the water in that respect. There is simply no genre that man cannot tackle.

As a singular artist, that man is god. No one can even touch him. From "For You" to "Lovesexy" he owned my musical soul.

What album do you like the most?

No Jeff Beck? or Jethro Tull?

It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

Not a huge fan of the list, but I can understand the influence of practically anybody on that list.. Also, kudos for including Talking Heads on the list (even if its at the 100 spot).

It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

HomicidalCherry

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It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

Pirate700

Put it this way, the 80s were full of hair metal and new wave bands that all sounded the same.. Its hard coming up with anybody that stood out in the 80s minus a few exceptions.

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It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

Wolf-Man2006

Put it this way, the 80s were full of hair metal and new wave bands that all sounded the same.. Its hard coming up with anybody that stood out in the 80s minus a few exceptions.

Yet another uneven list, many of the 'artists' they listed werent exactly the greatest musicians but known more for being performers.GulliversTravel

But it's not a greatest musicians list, it's an greatest artists list. Artists don't need to be musicians.

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[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

Wolf-Man2006

Put it this way, the 80s were full of hair metal and new wave bands that all sounded the same.. Its hard coming up with anybody that stood out in the 80s minus a few exceptions.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]The last 20 years aren't represented because it was horrible compared to decades prior. Some more artists from then may emerge as time goes on.

LJS9502_basic

Put it this way, the 80s were full of hair metal and new wave bands that all sounded the same.. Its hard coming up with anybody that stood out in the 80s minus a few exceptions.

True, but that was basically huge for the most part... Again, there were exceptions..

It's not a horrible list, but I feel like it's a little dated. Don't get me wrong, with a few exceptions (Madonna), these are really talented influential artists, but they really gloss over the last twenty years of music. The 90's and 00's are barely represented and they've had artists just as good if not better than a lot of the people on this list. Also, I'd like to see Radiohead in the top 5, but that's just my personal tastes (if I were making the list, they'd be in my top 1 lol).

HomicidalCherry

I'm a Madonna fan, so I'm naturally gonna defend her, but you don't get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame being untalented and not influential.

I mean, I can see why you might think she's not talented (tho I'd disagree), but not influential? In pop, there's hardly anybody more influential.

It seems to me that it got alot bigger since I last saw it. Did it only go to 50 last time? Anyway, this 100 artist list seems alot more comprehensive.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/the-beatles-19691231

People will whine about this list since people they don't like are on there, or their favorite artists are not here, or they actually put pop artists on there! (the list simply wouldn't be complete without a few pop stars), but it's pretty damn comprehensive, and the pictures are gorgeous. They perfectly capture the personalities/auras of the artists.

GreySeal9

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Hell yeah Bob Dylan #2.

Zepp at 14? Floyd at 51!?!?

Nirvana is 30 wow.

And I don't see Supertramp or Genesis.

Do they hate prog or something??

theone86

Genesis? Really?