Romney insults 47% of americans because they are poor.

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It's okay America, you need to get through these naysayers and disconnected people like Romney before you can make progress.
Look at europe, even our poor people are covered and can get health care even mid-class families in America fail to get at times.

DrTrafalgarLaw

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"] Wow......... I hope this is a poor troll attempt.Mafiree

Nope, I'm serious. What has Romney contributed to society? He's destroyed a lot companies during his time at Bain Capital and shipped a lot of jobs overseas, he's hid billions away in tax havens and won't even release his tax returns. So tell me what has Romney contributed?

Millions? Maybe, I'm wrong, in fact I probably am wrong about the "billions" comment so I'll change it. Does that really take anything away from my overall point though? He's hidden large amounts of his money away so that it can't be taxed.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] No he didn't. He didn't insult them for being poor, he criticized them for not taking any personal responsibility for their lives and thinking the government should care for them. All he did wrong was go overboard on the percent. He also didn't he doesn't care about them, just that in this election he is focusing on winning the votes of the others. Like a welfare kid is going to vote for Romney. I don't plan on voting for Romney, but at least get his words right.TheWalkingGhost

He specifically stated 47% because that is the percent of Americans that don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. A lot of people that are too poor to pay income tax take plenty of personal responsibility and don't think they government should take care of them, but he saw fit to lump them in with lazy people because they are poor.

It's not just that the number is too high, it's the specific group of people that he meant to be contained in that number. He said that all people that don't pay income tax don't take personal responsibility because some of them don't. That's like saying all black people are criminals because some black people are criminals.

this election season: A choice between a pile of sh!t and a different shade of the same sh!t

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Yep, America does love it's debt. TheWalkingGhost

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="white_wolf922"]

Nope, I'm serious. What has Romney contributed to society? He's destroyed a lot companies during his time at Bain Capital and shipped a lot of jobs overseas, he's hid billions away in tax havens and won't even release his tax returns. So tell me what has Romney contributed?

white_wolf922

Millions? Maybe, I'm wrong, in fact I probably am wrong about the "billions" comment so I'll change it. Does that really take anything away from my overall point though? He's hidden large amounts of his money away so that it can't be taxed.

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"] Mitt Romney is worth billions?Mafiree

Millions? Maybe, I'm wrong, in fact I probably am wrong about the "billions" comment so I'll change it. Does that really take anything away from my overall point though? He's hidden large amounts of his money away so that it can't be taxed.

I can't hide my money away and avoid taxes, why should he able to? Futhermore I doubt the majority of that money in the Caymans and other tax havens are being used for investment.

this election season: A choice between a pile of sh!t and a different shade of the same sh!t

wis3boi

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this election season: A choice between a pile of sh!t and a different shade of the same sh!t

TheWalkingGhost

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="white_wolf922"]

Millions? Maybe, I'm wrong, in fact I probably am wrong about the "billions" comment so I'll change it. Does that really take anything away from my overall point though? He's hidden large amounts of his money away so that it can't be taxed.

white_wolf922

I can't hide my money away and avoid taxes, why should he able to? Futhermore I doubt the majority of that money in the Caymans and other tax havens are being used for investment.

Somehow I doubt your hypothesis on Cayman Island banking.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] No he didn't. He didn't insult them for being poor, he criticized them for not taking any personal responsibility for their lives and thinking the government should care for them. All he did wrong was go overboard on the percent. He also didn't he doesn't care about them, just that in this election he is focusing on winning the votes of the others. Like a welfare kid is going to vote for Romney. I don't plan on voting for Romney, but at least get his words right.TheWalkingGhost

He specifically stated 47% because that is the percent of Americans that don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. A lot of people that are too poor to pay income tax take plenty of personal responsibility and don't think they government should take care of them, but he saw fit to lump them in with lazy people because they are poor.

The percentage is pretty important. Funny that you try so hard to downplay that part (you act as if it's just one little part of the puzzle when it's pretty essential) and ignore the implications it has on the overall statement.

As for my thoughts on this, I'll just say this: at fundraisers, candidates typically make statements that are not as safe as their public statements. The risk is that the statements might leak. See Obama's comment about people clinging to guns and religion.

What do people honestly expect a guy who's worth $250 milllion to say? That he can relate to how the 'Other Half' lives? By the way, the new number apparently is 51% now -- the highest it's been since '61...67gt500

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

He specifically stated 47% because that is the percent of Americans that don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. A lot of people that are too poor to pay income tax take plenty of personal responsibility and don't think they government should take care of them, but he saw fit to lump them in with lazy people because they are poor.

GreySeal9

The percentage is pretty important. Funny that you try so hard to downplay that part (you act as if it's just one little part of the puzzle when it's pretty essential) and ignore the implications it has on the overall statement.

As for my thoughts on this, I'll just say this: at fundraisers, candidates typically make statements that are not as safe as their public statements. The risk is that the statements might leak. See Obama's comment about people clinging to guns and religion.

If you don't pay taxes and you aren't a student or mentally or physically incapable of work, then you are a scumbag. Ghost_702

[QUOTE="Ghost_702"]If you don't pay taxes and you aren't a student or mentally or physically incapable of work, then you are a scumbag. Allthishate

Never change Mittens.

[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Ghost_702"]If you don't pay taxes and you aren't a student or mentally or physically incapable of work, then you are a scumbag. Ghost_702

If you don't pay taxes and you aren't a student or mentally or physically incapable of work, then you are a scumbag. Ghost_702

I don't understand what's wrong with this statistic. 47% of Americans being non taxpayers is perfectly reasonable for a country that has the age structure of the U.S. since most developed countries have labour forces that only comprise 45 to 55 % of the population. Only about half of the U.S. is employed labour which is the only part of the U.S. that can be taxed, for obvious reasons. So it should come as a surprise to nobody that the other half of it is going to go untaxed because the world superpower isn't so utterly moronic as to try and take money off people who have no income.

What he doesn't realize is that the "ladder" is broken because of corporations and millionaires like him sending jobs to china.YoshiYogurt

I just saw large clips of the video of the news, and another section that was unfortunate showed Romney claiming he would be doing a lot better in this election if his parents were Mexican, instead of mormons born in Mexico.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]What he doesn't realize is that the "ladder" is broken because of corporations and millionaires like him sending jobs to china.Laihendi

Romney is not out of touch. This is exactly how I think about large portion of the electorate. It is by design. This is the governing way of the Democrat Party, and this is nothing revolutionary. Less than half of population doesn't pay or gets a surplus of federal taxes from the other half of who do pay. Once you get that number over 50%, Democracy is dead, and you get mob rule based on how much people get from other taxpayers. It's very simple. If the Republican Party depends on the richer class, then the Democrat party surely depends on the poor and working class. Why then would the Democrat party encourage people from poorer, dependent class into a more self reliant richer one? That's less votes.

Romney is not out of touch. This is exactly how I think about large portion of the electorate. It is by design. This is the governing way of the Democrat Party, and this is nothing revolutionary. Less than half of population doesn't pay or gets a surplus of federal taxes from the other half of who do pay. Once you get that number over 50%, Democracy is dead, and you get mob rule based on how much people get from other taxpayers. It's very simple. If the Republican Party depends on the richer class, then the Democrat party surely depends on the poor and working class. Do why then would the Democrat party move people from poorer, dependent class into a more self reliant richer one? DevilMightCry

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is not out of touch. This is exactly how I think about large portion of the electorate. It is by design. This is the governing way of the Democrat Party, and this is nothing revolutionary. Less than half of population doesn't pay or gets a surplus of federal taxes from the other half of who do pay. Once you get that number over 50%, Democracy is dead, and you get mob rule based on how much people get from other taxpayers. It's very simple. If the Republican Party depends on the richer class, then the Democrat party surely depends on the poor and working class. Do why then would the Democrat party move people from poorer, dependent class into a more self reliant richer one? kuraimen

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Yep, America does love it's debt. TheWalkingGhost

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I am implying the US and Europe are crippled by debt. We need to get our deficit gone and then work on lowering the cost of health care first. Universal health care now would just cripple this lardbutt nation.DevilMightCry

I think those 47% of people are the ones that refuse to work and want the government to take care of them for their entire lives. My cousin is like that and so was this one kid I used to be friends with.pero2008

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is not out of touch. This is exactly how I think about large portion of the electorate. It is by design. This is the governing way of the Democrat Party, and this is nothing revolutionary. Less than half of population doesn't pay or gets a surplus of federal taxes from the other half of who do pay. Once you get that number over 50%, Democracy is dead, and you get mob rule based on how much people get from other taxpayers. It's very simple. If the Republican Party depends on the richer class, then the Democrat party surely depends on the poor and working class. Do why then would the Democrat party move people from poorer, dependent class into a more self reliant richer one? DevilMightCry

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Why is it then that the poorer states vote republican??kuraimen

Wrong. Romney insults 47% of his Base.