Ron Paul comes in 3rd in Iowa Caucus's

pRick santorum, an unknown candidate with low votes from 2 days ago to reaching 2nd place..thanks zionists c unts.

ScottMescudi

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] sometimes when I argue with people like that, I start seeing Hertzl was right, we can't change them no matter what we do :P oh well , people who one could call Anti-Jewish make the Jewish state stronger with their hatred , even if they are usually not clever enough to realise that themselves.Darkman2007

Yep I guess your right, I'm a Jewish American (ethnicallyand culturalybut not so much reilgiously)and people like him are ridiculed here. There was a news guy on CNN called Rick Sanchez and he got fired because he said some bigoted things about Israel and Jews. I would like to go to Israel though, don't know how safe it is but it would be cool to be in the land of my ancestors and see all the histroical sites.

I know Israel has the Orthodox Jews and they determine who is a Jew based off of the mother being Jewish(Even though in the time of Moses it was the Father) and while I disagree with that defination it doesn't bother me because alot of Jews there are secular or reformed. I'm not aware of any stereotypes relating to Jews in Israel, here in the US Jews are stereotyped as being cheap and greedy people.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yep I guess your right, I'm a Jewish American (ethnicallyand culturalybut not so much reilgiously)and people like him are ridiculed here. There was a news guy on CNN called Rick Sanchez and he got fired because he said some bigoted things about Israel and Jews. I would like to go to Israel though, don't know how safe it is but it would be cool to be in the land of my ancestors and see all the histroical sites.

ShadowMoses900

I know Israel has the Orthodox Jews and they determine who is a Jew based off of the mother being Jewish(Even though in the time of Moses it was the Father) and while I disagree with that defination it doesn't bother me because alot of Jews there are secular or reformed. I'm not aware of any stereotypes relating to Jews in Israel, here in the US Jews are stereotyped as being cheap and greedy people.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] sometimes when I argue with people like that, I start seeing Hertzl was right, we can't change them no matter what we do :P oh well , people who one could call Anti-Jewish make the Jewish state stronger with their hatred , even if they are usually not clever enough to realise that themselves.VanHelsingBoA64

Yep I guess your right, I'm a Jewish American (ethnicallyand culturalybut not so much reilgiously)and people like him are ridiculed here. There was a news guy on CNN called Rick Sanchez and he got fired because he said some bigoted things about Israel and Jews. I would like to go to Israel though, don't know how safe it is but it would be cool to be in the land of my ancestors and see all the histroical sites.

I didn't say they ran the media, just that the Film industry (only one part of the media, there are many parts) was started by Jewish immigrants who came to America from Europe (known as Ashkenazi Jews). Basically the Jews got kicked out of Israel by the romans and the one's who fled to Germany and Eastern Europe became known as Ashkenazi, that's why alot of Jews have white skin and some have blue eyes. They were living in a colder environment than before, but they didn't intermarry too much and still kept their racial/ethnicity. Some Jews stayed in the middle east or fled to the meditteranian countries or Spain and Italy, they are called Spehardic Jews.

Now when the Ashkenazi immigarted the US they had difficulty getting jobs, and when some of them moved to LA they couldn't find work due to discrimination. At this time the film industry hadn't caught on yet and people didn't think it was likely it ever was, so that's part of the reason why Jews got into it. It was kinda only available option, also there was Yiddish Theater that many Jews did for money. I never said they controlloed the media, I was just pointing out an histroical fact that the film industry was started by Jews and they probably liked to help each other out, kinda like how alot of the New York fire fighthers are Irish, same thing.

Honestly, Shadowmoses, I was embarassed of being on the same side as you in this argument. Please try so it doesn't happen again. pie-junior

Well glad to see that you were on the good side this time, I don't know who you are though. I take it you know me from SW? :P

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]This is now a Q/A session about Israel. I have one! q1: How do you get all the sand out of your taint, everyday?themajormayor

It's a slur word that describes a part of the body. I think that's what he was trying to say, it's an insult. But mabey he misspelled, I'm not sure. And Israel isn't just sand, Jeruslam for instance is a little rocky but nestled in a vibrant fertile area with lot's of trees and and plants and green hills. It even snows in Israel in the mountains, only place that would have lots of sand is the southern region of Israel which is justa giant desert.

So Iran gets 1 nuke, big deal. Israel has hundreds, pakistan had a bunch, so does india. I'm pretty sure the iranian government isn't planning to nuke anywhere, it's merely a bargaining chip to protect them from foreign invasions in a desperate attempt to shake off the reprehensible sanctions placed on the country since 1979. The USA and every other country in the west supported Saddam when he INVADED iran just for a landgrab in khuzestan. The former head of Mossad himself said that if he were part of the iranian government, he would want a nuke too. I think the thousands of MISSING soviet nukes should be a bigger concern than iran getting 1 nuke 60+ years after the USA got thousands. Also, I lived in iran. The population cannot rely on ordinary methods of providing electricity because every couple of weeks or so every district in Tehran lost power because there wasn't enough for the whole city. They NEED nuclear power to provide the necessary infrastructure for their growing population. shakmaster13

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]So Iran gets 1 nuke, big deal. Israel has hundreds, pakistan had a bunch, so does india. I'm pretty sure the iranian government isn't planning to nuke anywhere, it's merely a bargaining chip to protect them from foreign invasions in a desperate attempt to shake off the reprehensible sanctions placed on the country since 1979. The USA and every other country in the west supported Saddam when he INVADED iran just for a landgrab in khuzestan. The former head of Mossad himself said that if he were part of the iranian government, he would want a nuke too. I think the thousands of MISSING soviet nukes should be a bigger concern than iran getting 1 nuke 60+ years after the USA got thousands. Also, I lived in iran. The population cannot rely on ordinary methods of providing electricity because every couple of weeks or so every district in Tehran lost power because there wasn't enough for the whole city. They NEED nuclear power to provide the necessary infrastructure for their growing population. Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]So Iran gets 1 nuke, big deal. Israel has hundreds, pakistan had a bunch, so does india. I'm pretty sure the iranian government isn't planning to nuke anywhere, it's merely a bargaining chip to protect them from foreign invasions in a desperate attempt to shake off the reprehensible sanctions placed on the country since 1979. The USA and every other country in the west supported Saddam when he INVADED iran just for a landgrab in khuzestan. The former head of Mossad himself said that if he were part of the iranian government, he would want a nuke too. I think the thousands of MISSING soviet nukes should be a bigger concern than iran getting 1 nuke 60+ years after the USA got thousands. Also, I lived in iran. The population cannot rely on ordinary methods of providing electricity because every couple of weeks or so every district in Tehran lost power because there wasn't enough for the whole city. They NEED nuclear power to provide the necessary infrastructure for their growing population. shakmaster13

Methinks Israel is more or less capable of handling itself.

Despite the 3rd place finish, he's still projected to get the same amount of delegates, 7, as the other 2. CNN Results

Also, because of the organization and strategy, Romney and Paul could both get the majority of the delegates from Iowa when it's time for the RNC.

A sidenote, Santorum won't continue this success as he spent an entire year and all of his money and time in Iowa pandering to his evangelicals. He won't have that kind of time or money for the other states. Also, he's not as good at raising money, something imperative for a campaign, as Romney or Paul. Romney is the Establisment guy with all the PAC money and big backers while Paul is great at generating a movement and grassroots money by the bushel full. Establishment and status quo vs. non-traditional and grassroots for change. The other 4 candidates had better repair their image or they're finished. It looks like it's going to be a long drawn out battle between Romney and Paul. Something Romney isn't wanting.

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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]He doesn't see Iran as a nation that hates America. He wouldn't care if they obtained a nuke, nor would he help Israel in a war against Iran or others who hate them. He just wouldn't care about other a**hole countries having big weapons.

DroidPhysX

Iran obtaining a nuke wouldn't mean sh*t. And Israel's a big boy now. He can take care of himself.

Also

Oh well if Bachman said it........

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Paulites can co ahead and call me a neo-con or whatever but I wouldn't trust Ron Paul to not put ideology over national security.

ShadowMoses900

I agree with you, if Ron Paul was in office we would have probably never caught Bin Laden. He wouldn't have pursued him and would just isolate the US from the rest of the world entirely, even in trade. That would cause a HUGE amount of problems!

Ron Paul lost to Santorum... His campaign is over lolBanjo_Kongfooie

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Ron Paul lost to Santorum... His campaign is over lolDroidPhysX

McCain had the establishment...

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds, isolationism would set us back a century... I would love him to get the nomination over Romneytron

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Ron Paul lost to Santorum... His campaign is over lolBanjo_Kongfooie

McCain had the establishment...

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds, isolationism would set us back a century... I would love him to get the nomination over Romneytron

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] *flashbacks to 2008* McCain lost to Huckabee. Campaign over.DroidPhysX

McCain had the establishment...

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds, isolationism would set us back a century... I would love him to get the nomination over Romneytron

President Obama got out of Iraq quit whining, we will be out of Afghanistan too but you have to allow the region to stablize. Ron Paul will remove all our bases everywhere... That is dangerous.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

McCain had the establishment...

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds, isolationism would set us back a century... I would love him to get the nomination over Romneytron

Banjo_Kongfooie

President Obama got out of Iraq quit whining, we will be out of Afghanistan too but you have to allow the region to stablize. Ron Paul will remove all our bases everywhere... That is dangerous.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Spending those trillions for freedom and democracy has played apart in the $15 trillion hole.DroidPhysX

President Obama got out of Iraq quit whining, we will be out of Afghanistan too but you have to allow the region to stablize. Ron Paul will remove all our bases everywhere... That is dangerous.

He is a moderate now and will accomplish more in his second term. He ended DADT, established healthcare, the affordable homes legislation, etc.

Go ahead and vote paul in the primary but remember who is the most logical candidate when Romneytron or Santorum emerge.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

McCain had the establishment...

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds, isolationism would set us back a century... I would love him to get the nomination over Romneytron

Banjo_Kongfooie

President Obama got out of Iraq quit whining, we will be out of Afghanistan too but you have to allow the region to stablize. Ron Paul will remove all our bases everywhere... That is dangerous.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

President Obama got out of Iraq quit whining, we will be out of Afghanistan too but you have to allow the region to stablize. Ron Paul will remove all our bases everywhere... That is dangerous.

Banjo_Kongfooie

He is a moderate now and will accomplish more in his second term. He ended DADT, established healthcare, the affordable homes legislation, etc.

Go ahead and vote paul in the primary but remember who is the most logical candidate when Romneytron or Santorum emerge.

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If by health care you mean an unconstitutional piece of legislation, then yes he did. I have confidence in the conservative supreme court that they will strike it down and give the GOP contender a major boost.

That's mah Ronny! One day's he's third, the next day he's gonna be the Republican Nominee. Ron Paul 2012!

:P

Meh he sucks, he doesn't approve of net neutrality, and there probably wouldn't even be a FCC, so the ATT t-mobile merger prolly wuda passed no problems what so ever. Cable companies could be even more abusive, etc.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Meh he sucks, he doesn't approve of net neutrality, and there probably wouldn't even be a FCC, so the ATT t-mobile merger prolly wuda passed no problems what so ever. Cable companies could be even more abusive, etc.Serraph105

why would he approve? it regulates business. Isnt his whole spiel that business should be completely unregulated and able to do whatever they want?

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Meh he sucks, he doesn't approve of net neutrality, and there probably wouldn't even be a FCC, so the ATT t-mobile merger prolly wuda passed no problems what so ever. Cable companies could be even more abusive, etc.SauceKing

why would he approve? it regulates business. Isnt his whole spiel that business should be completely unregulated and able to do whatever they want?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Really? So in your opinion you think that a country that kills women because they don't wear their veil or brutaly murder homosexuals and Christians is a good one? Wow what world do you live in? Glad I was rasied with better standards and values.

ShadowMoses900

Twist your words? Your the one who said "it's all opinion blah blah blah", you said it again. "Just different cultures, you should accept it and not bash it blah blah blah"

Well guess what? Your wrong! Some cultures are backwards and do things that are wrong. And a country that opresses women and kills gays and Non Muslims and whose main goal is killing Jews, I would say that is a pretty bad culture. It's uncivilaized. You saying otherwise is just dumb and naive, stop trying to be mr PC aorund here, everyone knows the truth.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Dont twist my words. People from differing countries will have differing values based on the societies they live in. Through this, People develop differing meanings of what they personally view as "good" and "bad" Simply because you personally disagree with another society's methods, doesn't mean you should bash that country and condemn war upon them.Nibroc420

Twist your words? Your the one who said "it's all opinion blah blah blah", you said it again. "Just different cultures, you should accept it and not bash it blah blah blah"

Well guess what? Your wrong! Some cultures are backwards and do things that are wrong. And a country that opresses women and kills gays and Non Muslims and whose main goal is killing Jews, I would say that is a pretty bad culture. It's uncivilaized. You saying otherwise is just dumb and naive, stop trying to be mr PC aorund here, everyone knows the truth.

Just like the slaves in america? how they didnt like being slaves so they stopped slavery by voting? remember that big civil vote that ended slavery, oh no thats right it was the civil WAR.

the problem being the people who are disenfranchised the most by the system are usually the least capable of doing anything about it. The slave owners didnt listen to the complaints of the slaves and was like "oh we thought you guys liked being slaves, our bad... you are free now"

No the north had to march in and kick the crap out of the south before the slaves could be free. Were the slaves capable of dealing with slavery in america by themselves? (hint: the answer is no because they were slaves and had no rights)

and i like to think, human brutality effects every man and woman with the ability to empathize. You are on the end of a losing arguement.

Just like the slaves in america? how they didnt like being slaves so they stopped slavery by voting? remember that big civil vote that ended slavery, oh no thats right it was the civil WAR.

the problem being the people who are disenfranchised the most by the system are usually the least capable of doing anything about it. The slave owners didnt listen to the complaints of the slaves and was like "oh we thought you guys liked being slaves, our bad... you are free now"

No the north had to march in and kick the crap out of the south before the slaves could be free. Were the slaves capable of dealing with slavery in america by themselves? (hint: the answer is no because they were slaves and had no rights)

SauceKing

ShadowMoses seems to believe that because he, and/or other people from country X, are allowed to simply swoop into country Y, with no real objective, and claim they're "saving" a group that has yet to request any aid. All because people from country X dislike the morals/religions/laws in country Y.

FFS the USA isn't some world police.

Not sure why. I never hear real bad things about him.

Just like the slaves in america? how they didnt like being slaves so they stopped slavery by voting? remember that big civil vote that ended slavery, oh no thats right it was the civil WAR.

the problem being the people who are disenfranchised the most by the system are usually the least capable of doing anything about it. The slave owners didnt listen to the complaints of the slaves and was like "oh we thought you guys liked being slaves, our bad... you are free now"

No the north had to march in and kick the crap out of the south before the slaves could be free. Were the slaves capable of dealing with slavery in america by themselves? (hint: the answer is no because they were slaves and had no rights)

and i like to think, human brutality effects every man and woman with the ability to empathize. You are on the end of a losing arguement.

SauceKing

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Just like the slaves in america? how they didnt like being slaves so they stopped slavery by voting? remember that big civil vote that ended slavery, oh no thats right it was the civil WAR.

the problem being the people who are disenfranchised the most by the system are usually the least capable of doing anything about it. The slave owners didnt listen to the complaints of the slaves and was like "oh we thought you guys liked being slaves, our bad... you are free now"

No the north had to march in and kick the crap out of the south before the slaves could be free. Were the slaves capable of dealing with slavery in america by themselves? (hint: the answer is no because they were slaves and had no rights)

Nibroc420

ShadowMoses seems to believe that because he, and/or other people from country X, are allowed to simply swoop into country Y, with no real objective, and claim they're "saving" a group that has yet to request any aid. All because people from country X dislike the morals/religions/laws in country Y.

FFS the USA isn't some world police.

the point is free will and determination dont mean jack when the system is designed against you. For instance i would say probably about 100% of prisoners want to be free, have free will and are pretty determined... under your logic, they are all free and not in prison now because of those factors alone. But yet, they are still all in prison, because the system is designed to keep them there.

When the north swooped in and freed the slaves, it was a small minority that wanted to abolish slavery, not the majority of southerners. So you are saying we should have never freed the slaves essentially, because they wanted to be free, had free will and were determined... but since they were just a small portion of the southern population that couldnt be vocal about it because they would be beaten and/or killed we should have done nothing?

Are you telling me there there isnt a minority of people that feel disenfranchised and are afraid to speak out due to the threat of violence in arab countries? To be honest the similarities between that and the freeing of the slaves seem pretty glaring.

And the USA is the world police.

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Just like the slaves in america? how they didnt like being slaves so they stopped slavery by voting? remember that big civil vote that ended slavery, oh no thats right it was the civil WAR.

the problem being the people who are disenfranchised the most by the system are usually the least capable of doing anything about it. The slave owners didnt listen to the complaints of the slaves and was like "oh we thought you guys liked being slaves, our bad... you are free now"

No the north had to march in and kick the crap out of the south before the slaves could be free. Were the slaves capable of dealing with slavery in america by themselves? (hint: the answer is no because they were slaves and had no rights)

and i like to think, human brutality effects every man and woman with the ability to empathize. You are on the end of a losing arguement.

VanHelsingBoA64

I dont know what lincoln though and it doesnt matter what lincoln thought, it matters what we think now. I think fighting a war to free the slaves was a good idea, how about you?

and civil wars CAN be analogous to policing foreign nations if the wars result in the end of human rights abuses.

And the USA is the world police.

SauceKing

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]And the USA is the world police.

Nibroc420

care to elaborate?

who funds the UN? who runs NATO? Who puts up nuclear defense shields in foreign countries?

someone certainly has to keep the nutjobs of the world in line.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Ron Paul lost to Santorum... His campaign is over lolBanjo_Kongfooie

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds....

I'm a moderate conservative and I like him.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] *flashbacks to 2008* McCain lost to Huckabee. Campaign over.Sunfyre7896

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds....

I'm a moderate conservative and I like him.

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds....

Banjo_Kongfooie

I'm a moderate conservative and I like him.

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

I'm a moderate conservative and I like him.

mingmao3046

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

It was by campaigners for him though and other Ron Paul supporters try to cover this up.

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Meh he sucks, he doesn't approve of net neutrality, and there probably wouldn't even be a FCC, so the ATT t-mobile merger prolly wuda passed no problems what so ever. Cable companies could be even more abusive, etc.Serraph105

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

Banjo_Kongfooie

It was by campaigners for him though and other Ron Paul supporters try to cover this up.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

Banjo_Kongfooie

It was by campaigners for him though and other Ron Paul supporters try to cover this up.

Who gives a sh*t about what his supporters are saying or uploading on youtube. RP has already denounced this.

[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

Noone likes ron paul except the libertarian crowds....

Banjo_Kongfooie

I'm a moderate conservative and I like him.

You liked his racist ad against the chinese?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZeVqj-t1U0

Do you even know what you're talking about? This is about Huntsman, not Paul for one. For two, this isn't even part of Paul's campaign.