Russia turns off Europes Gas

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]WWIII was bound to happen eventually. I always thought it would be America to start it though...Joker_268

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[QUOTE="lucky326"]Christ your behind mate, the gas was switched off 2 weeks ago and a deal was agreed today to turn it back on. Good thing as well as the EU was considering seizing the UK supplies to power the Eastern block of countries.lucky326

it would be toth for them to find are Oil tho we have stashed it under the sands of Iraq :twisted:

[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

it would be toth for them to find are Oil tho we have stashed it under the sands of Iraq :twisted:

jointed

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="lucky326"] Unfortunately the EU can use our supplies if need be as they have that power and our PM wouldn't stop them.markop2003

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="lucky326"] Unfortunately the EU can use our supplies if need be as they have that power and our PM wouldn't stop them.markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="jointed"] Of course he wouldn't stop "them" since we're a part of it. We can't expect to reap the benefits of the no-trade barrier laws and at the same time isolate ourselves.jointed

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="lucky326"] Unfortunately the EU can use our supplies if need be as they have that power and our PM wouldn't stop them.markop2003

i would argue that we shouldnt be in the EU just on the shere fact we are the 2nd largest exporter of financial services are service sector of are Economy is vastly larger than the rest of Europe the Pound is still the hardest currency in the world even tho its value has fall due to the credit crunch .

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="jointed"] Of course he wouldn't stop "them" since we're a part of it. We can't expect to reap the benefits of the no-trade barrier laws and at the same time isolate ourselves.snakes_codec

i would argue that we shouldnt be in the EU just on the shere fact we are the 2nd largest exporter of financial services are service sector of are Economy is vastly larger than the rest of Europe the Pound is still the hardest currency in the world even tho its value has fall due to the credit crunch .

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="markop2003"] All these benefits we reap.... You do know how much memborship costs us right? And how little Britain exports these days....lucky326

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="markop2003"] All these benefits we reap.... You do know how much memborship costs us right? And how little Britain exports these days....lucky326

i would argue that we shouldnt be in the EU just on the shere fact we are the 2nd largest exporter of financial services are service sector of are Economy is vastly larger than the rest of Europe the Pound is still the hardest currency in the world even tho its value has fall due to the credit crunch .

yeah but for how long the pound will likly rise again when we are out of the economic slump we are in .

[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

i would argue that we shouldnt be in the EU just on the shere fact we are the 2nd largest exporter of financial services are service sector of are Economy is vastly larger than the rest of Europe the Pound is still the hardest currency in the world even tho its value has fall due to the credit crunch .

snakes_codec

yeah but for how long the pound will likly rise again when we are out of the economic slump we are in .

[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="jointed"] I'd say that it's a good enough reason to integrate even more. We need a strong Europe in the future, not a passive bunch of idiots who just sit around and do nothing. As if the last half of the 20th century wasn't humiliating enough. Political idiocy like the widespread Europscepticism we're talking about is going to rot this country from the inside out...mark my words. jointed

im afraid i dont support bending over for a European super state either im British before im European and that will never change .

and all i have to say to that is oh well i guess it will be funny watching the French beg the Russians to switch there Gas back on where as we in the UK have are own Gas and dont have to bend over to please Russia just so they will keep Gas running to us .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7826142.stm

snakes_codec

In ten years time the U.S. will be nearly oil free and when that happens I'll be laughing at every other country while their struggling to keep up.

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and all i have to say to that is oh well i guess it will be funny watching the French beg the Russians to switch there Gas back on where as we in the UK have are own Gas and dont have to bend over to please Russia just so they will keep Gas running to us .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7826142.stm

BurnsOfRage

actually England has more Gas than Scotland its only Oil Scotland has more of and anyway thats a stupid argument to have anyway seen as we are a Union and share are wealth its only nationlists that use this argument and its a pety one at that .

In ten years time the U.S. will be nearly oil free and when that happens I'll be laughing at every other country while their struggling to keep up.

Iced_Earth_Rulz

we are already kickiing ass on that front we have the right kind of weather and climit for renewable energy

http://greentech.co.uk/uk-becomes-wind-super-power-265

WWIII was bound to happen eventually. I always thought it would be America to start it though...hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="Iced_Earth_Rulz"]

In ten years time the U.S. will be nearly oil free and when that happens I'll be laughing at every other country while their struggling to keep up.

snakes_codec

we are already kickiing ass on that front we have the right kind of weather and climit for renewable energy

http://greentech.co.uk/uk-becomes-wind-super-power-265

We'll catch up and we have multiple climates for renewable energy. When that happens the us and the uk will laugh at every other country while their struggling to keep up. Maybe Canada too but i dunno if i would consider them a country. :P

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="Iced_Earth_Rulz"]

In ten years time the U.S. will be nearly oil free and when that happens I'll be laughing at every other country while their struggling to keep up.

Iced_Earth_Rulz

we are already kickiing ass on that front we have the right kind of weather and climit for renewable energy

http://greentech.co.uk/uk-becomes-wind-super-power-265

We'll catch up and we have multiple climates for renewable energy. When that happens the us and the uk will laugh at every other country while their struggling to keep up. Maybe Canada too but i dunno if i would consider them a country. :P

very true Gas & Oil might be helping Russia now but if they dont invest there new found wealth to fund renewable sources of energy there going to fall behind other countries again like in the 80s .

[QUOTE="BurnsOfRage"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

and all i have to say to that is oh well i guess it will be funny watching the French beg the Russians to switch there Gas back on where as we in the UK have are own Gas and dont have to bend over to please Russia just so they will keep Gas running to us .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7826142.stm

snakes_codec

actually England has more Gas than Scotland its only Oil Scotland has more of and anyway thats a stupid argument to have anyway seen as we are a Union and share are wealth its only nationlists that use this argument and its a pety one at that .

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="BurnsOfRage"] Snakes... just out of interest are you Scottish or English? If you are English then you should stop lording "your" natural gas supplies over other countries.BurnsOfRage

actually England has more Gas than Scotland its only Oil Scotland has more of and anyway thats a stupid argument to have anyway seen as we are a Union and share are wealth its only nationlists that use this argument and its a pety one at that .

i hardly think we will be in that position lets just put it this way if Scotland or England or Wales broke off from the United Kingdom they would be taking a searious step back in progress of there cpountry its much more Ecomicly sound to have a united island nation its also benfits us in terms of defence having contral of all seas around the UK and having more contral of are borders .

[QUOTE="BurnsOfRage"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

actually England has more Gas than Scotland its only Oil Scotland has more of and anyway thats a stupid argument to have anyway seen as we are a Union and share are wealth its only nationlists that use this argument and its a pety one at that .

snakes_codec

i hardly think we will be in that position lets just put it this way if Scotland or England or Wales broke off from the United Kingdom they would be taking a searious step back in progress of there cpountry its much more Ecomicly sound to have a united island nation its also benfits us in terms of defence having contral of all seas around the UK and having more contral of are borders .

i hardly think we will be in that position lets just put it this way if Scotland or England or Wales broke off from the United Kingdom they would be taking a serious step back in progress of there cpountry its much more Economically sound to have a united island nation its also benfits us in terms of defence having control of all seas around the UK and having more contral of are borders .snakes_codec

I dont think you are talking along the same lines as me anymore.. I was pointing out that your initial post was needlessly arrogant and was designed so as to irriitate others into contributing to your topic. There are better ways of starting a discussion than.... Im so much better than you, now you get angry and tell me why Im not.

I do have very strong opinions about the independence of Scotland, but as I said this was about pointing out your attitude in your initial post... not about what I think should happen to the UK.

In fact the only reason that I didnt take great offense to your initial post was because I believe that it is a very important topic.

Also gas prices in the UK have increased 10% as a result of this situation

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="BurnsOfRage"] Your wrong about the gas supply check your facts on that one ;). And Im not making a scottish nationalist point, just pointing out how you could easily be in the position of others.lucky326

i hardly think we will be in that position lets just put it this way if Scotland or England or Wales broke off from the United Kingdom they would be taking a searious step back in progress of there cpountry its much more Ecomicly sound to have a united island nation its also benfits us in terms of defence having contral of all seas around the UK and having more contral of are borders .

[QUOTE="lucky326"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

i hardly think we will be in that position lets just put it this way if Scotland or England or Wales broke off from the United Kingdom they would be taking a searious step back in progress of there cpountry its much more Ecomicly sound to have a united island nation its also benfits us in terms of defence having contral of all seas around the UK and having more contral of are borders .

snakes_codec

does'nt russia have the worlds largest oil reserve ? IF only I could make oil artfically I be the richest man on earth i'll own warren buffetkemar7856

Saudi Arabia has the largest oil reserves Russia has the largest gas reserves .

it wont happen the Scots are starting to wake up and see what a joke the SNP and fat boy Salmond are they live in william Wallace fantasy land but even most intelligent Scots knew back then that the only way for the country to progress was to settle there differences with the English and work together and the modern day is just the same .snakes_codec

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"][QUOTE="lucky326"] If either of them tryed to get out I would personally call for a war to put them in there place.lucky326

well that's what they have to chose do they want there government in London or Brussels its there choice but there better off as they are now .

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]it wont happen the Scots are starting to wake up and see what a joke the SNP and fat boy Salmond are they live in william Wallace fantasy land but even most intelligent Scots knew back then that the only way for the country to progress was to settle there differences with the English and work together and the modern day is just the same .BurnsOfRage

[QUOTE="snakes_codec"]it wont happen the Scots are starting to wake up and see what a joke the SNP and fat boy Salmond are they live in william Wallace fantasy land but even most intelligent Scots knew back then that the only way for the country to progress was to settle there differences with the English and work together and the modern day is just the same .BurnsOfRage

what country are you from BurnsofRage because in my experience Scots don't want independents they just want a bigger say a referendum wont be successful as most Scots only voted SNP because of there was no one else to vote for .

Actually no, the majority of Scots that want Independence actually live in London. Those in Scotland are actually all right with the union.lucky326

very true Gas & Oil might be helping Russia now but if they dont invest there new found wealth to fund renewable sources of energy there going to fall behind other countries again like in the 80s .

snakes_codec

[QUOTE="lucky326"]Actually no, the majority of Scots that want Independence actually live in London. Those in Scotland are actually all right with the union.BurnsOfRage

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very true Gas & Oil might be helping Russia now but if they dont invest there new found wealth to fund renewable sources of energy there going to fall behind other countries again like in the 80s .

horgen123

in my experience Scots don't want independents they just want a bigger say a referendum wont be successful as most Scots only voted SNP because of there was no one else to vote for.snakes_codec

I live in the North-West of England, I know a few Scots and they mostly share similar beliefs that being in the union is the best thing for the moment.lucky326

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="snakes_codec"]

very true Gas & Oil might be helping Russia now but if they dont invest there new found wealth to fund renewable sources of energy there going to fall behind other countries again like in the 80s .

lucky326

[QUOTE="lucky326"]Actually no, the majority of Scots that want Independence actually live in London. Those in Scotland are actually all right with the union.BurnsOfRage

your argument holds no water mate i myself am half Scottish i visit my family up in Glasgow like 4 or 5 times a year they don't want independents and none of my Scottish friends want independents either and i think it shows when labour screwed up so bad but still the SNP only won by 20,000 votes that equivalent of on seat in the Scottish parliament lmao that's not big enough support for independents mate .

your argument holds no water mate i myself am half Scottish i visit my family up in Glasgow like 4 or 5 times a year they don't want independents and none of my Scottish friends want independents either and i think it shows when labour screwed up so bad but still the SNP only won by 20,000 votes that equivalent of on seat in the Scottish parliament lmao that's not big enough support for independents mate .snakes_codec

Your thinking is flawed. Votes for the SNP only equal votes for the SNPs policies. It does not equal desire for independence. Many people disagree with SNP policy and would not vote for them, but those people may still support independence.

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