Russia Warns West Against Military Action in Syria

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

EYE-OF-HORUS999

I don't care if they used chemical warfare. Just let them kill each other.

I don't want another vietnam style war with russia.

[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

BossPerson

Also wasn't he already winning?

I don't care if they used chemical warfare. Just let them kill each other.

I don't want another vietnam style war with russia.

MakeMeaSammitch

AGREED brotha. AGREED!

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

EYE-OF-HORUS999

Also wasn't he already winning?

[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]It could be the rebels. I don't see why Assad would do that while UN inspectors are in Syria. He has zero to gain and all to lose from that. BossPerson

Also wasn't he already winning?

Okay. If thats the case why would he use them? It just doesnt add up...

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

 

 

Also wasn't he already winning?

EYE-OF-HORUS999

Okay. If thats the case why would he use them? It just doesnt add up...

[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

BossPerson

what does he have to be afraid of? a UN security council resolution condemning him for chemical weapons use? the Russians can veto that, the UN inspectors are a waste of time in my opinion. if the Americans decide to intervene, they will regardless of what happens in the UN

not saying I'm absolutely certain it was the Syrian government (most likely was though , given the fact it has those weapons for certain , the rebels may or may not), I just don't think the UN inspectors are really a big factor here.

[QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

BossPerson

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="EYE-OF-HORUS999"]

http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-warns-against-military-action-in-syria/1737159.html

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9219740

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-26/russia-warns-u-s-against-regional-fallout-of-syria-intervention.html

Do you believe the Syrian govt was behind the chemical attacks or do you think it could have been the rebals like Russia thinks.

Darkman2007

what does he have to be afraid of? a UN security council resolution condemning him for chemical weapons use? the Russians can veto that, the UN inspectors are a waste of time in my opinion. if the Americans decide to intervene, they will regardless of what happens in the UN

not saying I'm absolutely certain it was the Syrian government (most likely was though , given the fact it has those weapons for certain , the rebels may or may not), I just don't think the UN inspectors are really a big factor here.

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

Jimn_tonic

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]It could be the rebels. I don't see why Assad would do that while UN inspectors are in Syria. He has zero to gain and all to lose from that. BossPerson

what does he have to be afraid of? a UN security council resolution condemning him for chemical weapons use? the Russians can veto that, the UN inspectors are a waste of time in my opinion. if the Americans decide to intervene, they will regardless of what happens in the UN

not saying I'm absolutely certain it was the Syrian government (most likely was though , given the fact it has those weapons for certain , the rebels may or may not), I just don't think the UN inspectors are really a big factor here.

Could be them, the rebels, or any third party (other nations included). That's why it's too early to warm the war drums.

Obama gave the rebels the weapons and capabilities, then sent the UN team in and blame the gov't.FrostyPhantasm

Assad has already shown himself to be ruthless in killing his own people but I don't understand why they would use chemical weapons knowing the consequences. Certain extreme factions of the rebels could plausibly carry out these kinds of attacks to gain military support from us/uk etc, but where would they get the weapons from? Regardless of the truth I don't want to see my country (uk) get involved. I don't see why it is our business or what we would stand to gain. Given that our armed forces are overstretched it seems foolish to wrap them up in another engagement. Honestly the more this conflict goes on, the more I think what's best for the syrian people is a return to stability under assad. Now that he's spent years shooting his own people though I don't see that happening. Especially if he has used chemical weapons. A question for people who understand this better than I do - if assad has used chemical weapons, and there is overwhelming evidence to support it, what would russia's reaction likely be? To shut down and veto any talk of it and continue supporting assad, or to distance themselves from the regime and stop supplying them with weapons?EJ902

Russia would support him of course, the Russians have their own interests in this, and they have very little to do with human rights.

that is part of the reason Assad feels there are no consequences, Assad is thinking in terms of threats, from his perspective, Russia will defend him in the UN (which is a useless organisation in this case), and he may well see the west as cowardly, it didn't intervene for two years after all.

Agreed. The West can't go into Syria without going against the UN because of the positions Russia/China have. What would be the bigger crime anyways? Going against the UN or standing by while ruthless armies fight it out and destroy the country.

My bet is that the rebels did it. They even warned that they would and posted a video of using it on a rabbit.killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]My bet is that the rebels did it. They even warned that they would and posted a video of using it on a rabbit.sherman-tank1

Check this out:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-iran-issue-explicit-warning-to-israel-if-us-attacks/

Check this out:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-iran-issue-explicit-warning-to-israel-if-us-attacks/

sherman-tank1

It wouldn't surprise me if the more desperate the situation gets the more Assad will use chemical weapons. That was always an issue I had with going to Iraq because Saddam's alleged WMD, if they did have them wouldn't cornering the rat increase the chances of those weapons being used rather than decrease the chances? I think a bullet was dodged and he didn't have them but with Syria they actually do have them. Whether or not the Syrian government has used them or not is debatable but they do have them and if they believe the end is near why wouldn't they use them against their enemies both within Syria and surrounding nations like Saudi and Israel? If Assad is the type of person who only cares about himself I could see this happening and I'm kind of worried he is that person. Syria would burn in retaliation but if he only cares about making his enemies suffer before he dies that wouldn't matter to him.

you guys are forgetting that we're talking about someone who has used brutal violence against his own people without any hesitation. also he isn't stupid that much. there are still chances that he used the chemicals knowing how it'd look like and thought most folks would blame it on the rebels since Assad apparently lacked any logical motive to do so.

Check this out:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-iran-issue-explicit-warning-to-israel-if-us-attacks/

sherman-tank1

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

Jimn_tonic

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

Could be them, the rebels, or any third party (other nations included). That's why it's too early to warm the war drums.

Masculus

Good job Russia for standing up to the western thugs

Didnt one of the rebels eat another man's heart and film it? Im gonna say the rebels are definitely capable.

EDIT: On the real though, anything is possible :?

Good job Russia for standing up to the western thugs

osirisx3

i have no clue, if i had to bet though i would say assad. 

Good job Russia for standing up to the western thugs

osirisx3

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

Vaultboy-101

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

one_plum

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

 

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

sherman-tank1

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

BossPerson

No...ROBOTS!

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

The fact that Assad isn't letting journalists in the country makes me believe he's behind it, if the rebels were setting up these supposed attacks, then it would be in his best interest to let the world see it.

one_plum

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

Russian journalists would probably be biased towards the truth, while Western journalists would more likely be biased against it.

:|

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

 

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

Stesilaus

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

Russian journalists would probably be biased towards the truth, while Western journalists would more likely be biased against it.

:|

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

 

I've seen quite a few Russian journalists over there.

Stesilaus

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

Russian journalists would probably be biased towards the truth, while Western journalists would more likely be biased against it.

:|

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Regardless of the truth I don't want to see my country (uk) get involved. I don't see why it is our business or what we would stand to gain. Given that our armed forces are overstretched it seems foolish to wrap them up in another engagement. Honestly the more this conflict goes on, the more I think what's best for the syrian people is a return to stability under assad. Now that he's spent years shooting his own people though I don't see that happening. Especially if he has used chemical weapons.EJ902

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

BossPerson

[QUOTE="EJ902"]Regardless of the truth I don't want to see my country (uk) get involved. I don't see why it is our business or what we would stand to gain. Given that our armed forces are overstretched it seems foolish to wrap them up in another engagement. Honestly the more this conflict goes on, the more I think what's best for the syrian people is a return to stability under assad. Now that he's spent years shooting his own people though I don't see that happening. Especially if he has used chemical weapons.michaelP4

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="one_plum"]

It makes sense. Russian journalists would probably be biased towards Assad while Western journalists would more likely be biased against him.

BossPerson

This whole thing is bullshit and just an excuse to get into another war.