Same Sex Marriage Controversial

I don't like the idea. It violates the santity of marriage, if it gets legalised I'm moving countries.rockerbikie

Atta boy! I agree with you!

Yes who gives you the right to tell a person how to live their life this way

I have said and I will say its a a 3rd much lower degree of civil rights and womens rights that when they finally get it people will look back and laugh at how ignorant people were

Yes who gives you the right to tell a person how to live their life this way

I have said and I will say its a a 3rd much lower degree of civil rights and womens rights that when they finally get it people will look back and laugh at how ignorant people were

[QUOTE="chathuranga"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] Do your toilet and shower bother you?Teenaged

Why not use critical thinking towards our environment? Is it tough or inconvenient? Or both?

0/10, typing controversial in your topic title doesn't help either but if you are being serious, then I don't think any should care what two men or women do in their bed room. Well two women is hot! but two men EWW!

Espada12

I hate when people say we shouldn't care what happens in the bedroom. If theres abuse in the bedroom should that be kept in the bedroom too?

I personally don't have a problem with gays. If they wanna do that crap then whatever. What I do have a problem the whole marriage thing. I understand they want to be married for the benefits that come from marriage, but my problem is for those that would adopt or have kids. I don't think any kid should have gay parents... and I don't care what anyone says... being gay is not normal and kids deserve to have a normal childhood. I think having one parent is better than having two parents of the same sex.

Just my opinions...

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="chathuranga"] No. Showers and toilets are natural to me because I grew up with toilets and showers. I didn't grow up with homosexuality... That is why I find it unnatural. When I have kids or grandkids, maybe they'll have a different perspective on what's natural and unnatural because of their surroundings while growing up.chathuranga

Why not use critical thinking towards our environment? Is it tough or inconvenient? Or both?

I agree. Until a man and man can have a baby homosexuality will be unnatural.

>I hate when people say we shouldn't care what happens in the bedroom. If theres abuse in the bedroom should that be kept in the bedroom too?Tomemogus

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Pfffft, legalize it and get it over with, its getting ridiculous. As a religious dude, i would like to see what would happen if same sex marriage got legalized.Espada12

Probably nothing for the most part.

[QUOTE="chathuranga"] I have, and I have arrived at the same conclusion. Homosexuality is unnatural.Danm_999

Shows that animals are messed up too. They still can't create offspring by doing homosexual things. In other words they can't create little animals meaning they can't have a family meaning gays shouldn't get married since they can't even become a real family.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="chathuranga"] I have, and I have arrived at the same conclusion. Homosexuality is unnatural.Tomemogus

Shows that animals are messed up too. They still can't create offspring by doing homosexual things. In other words they can't create little animals meaning they can't have a family meaning gays shouldn't get married since they can't even become a real family.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

0/10, typing controversial in your topic title doesn't help either but if you are being serious, then I don't think any should care what two men or women do in their bed room. Well two women is hot! but two men EWW!

Tomemogus

I hate when people say we shouldn't care what happens in the bedroom. If theres abuse in the bedroom should that be kept in the bedroom too?

I personally don't have a problem with gays. If they wanna do that crap then whatever. What I do have a problem the whole marriage thing. I understand they want to be married for the benefits that come from marriage, but my problem is for those that would adopt or have kids. I don't think any kid should have gay parents... and I don't care what anyone says... being gay is not normal and kids deserve to have a normal childhood. I think having one parent is better than having two parents of the same sex.

Just my opinions...

Yea it should be, why should I have to see their abuse? Not my business yo. Also your whole reasoning behind gay adoption has to be one of the silliest I've read in a while. What difference would a single parent vs two gay parents make? Kids get made fun of in school for all sorts of garbage it won't make a difference. Think of it this way -

If it's two manly gays then the boy doesn't have a mother, much like a single father situation

If it's two girly gays then he won't have a father, much like a single mother situation

If it's a girl and a manly it will be like normal parents :D :D :D :D

Also your whole reasoning behind gay adoption has to be one of the silliest I've read in a while. What difference would a single parent vs two gay parents make?Espada12

Why bar marriage to prevent something that has already happened.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] Depends on your definition of "natural". Homosexual relations between animals is widely observed.Danm_999

Shows that animals are messed up too. They still can't create offspring by doing homosexual things. In other words they can't create little animals meaning they can't have a family meaning gays shouldn't get married since they can't even become a real family.

Heres the thing... how do you stop the rest? Some will get kids and thats where I disagree with it.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

Shows that animals are messed up too. They still can't create offspring by doing homosexual things. In other words they can't create little animals meaning they can't have a family meaning gays shouldn't get married since they can't even become a real family.

Tomemogus

Heres the thing... how do you stop the rest? Some will get kids and thats where I disagree with it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="chathuranga"] No. Showers and toilets are natural to me because I grew up with toilets and showers. I didn't grow up with homosexuality... That is why I find it unnatural. When I have kids or grandkids, maybe they'll have a different perspective on what's natural and unnatural because of their surroundings while growing up.chathuranga

Why not use critical thinking towards our environment? Is it tough or inconvenient? Or both?

They are all natural, their is no right and wrong when it comes to ones sexuality.

[QUOTE="LZ71"]Yes, it should be allowed, and there is not one good reason against it. super_mario_128

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

0/10, typing controversial in your topic title doesn't help either but if you are being serious, then I don't think any should care what two men or women do in their bed room. Well two women is hot! but two men EWW!

Espada12

I hate when people say we shouldn't care what happens in the bedroom. If theres abuse in the bedroom should that be kept in the bedroom too?

I personally don't have a problem with gays. If they wanna do that crap then whatever. What I do have a problem the whole marriage thing. I understand they want to be married for the benefits that come from marriage, but my problem is for those that would adopt or have kids. I don't think any kid should have gay parents... and I don't care what anyone says... being gay is not normal and kids deserve to have a normal childhood. I think having one parent is better than having two parents of the same sex.

Just my opinions...

Yea it should be, why should I have to see their abuse? Not my business yo. Also your whole reasoning behind gay adoption has to be one of the silliest I've read in a while. What difference would a single parent vs two gay parents make? Kids get made fun of in school for all sorts of garbage it won't make a difference. Think of it this way -

If it's two manly gays then the boy doesn't have a mother, much like a single father situation

If it's two girly gays then he won't have a father, much like a single mother situation

If it's a girl and a manly it will be like normal parents :D :D :D :D

Oh ok your right... It's no ones business if there's child abuse going on in a bedroom because bedrooms are private and things that happen in bedrooms should stay in bedrooms. Lets let all the kids that get molested and raped continue to get molested and raped? Sorry thats not right to me.. but you have your opinion.

My reasons for it are simple. We learn the most when we are kids and take in a lot of information. Homosexuality is UNNATURAL. Ask any freaking scientist and I'm sure almost all of them would say the same thing. If we learn the most when were kids and we see our moms or dads kissing all the time what do you think your gonna learn from that? I live next to a community that has a ton of polygamists. Do you know what Polygamy is? Im sure you do. It's where one man marries multiple wifes. Do you think thats wrong? I guess it doesn't matter what you think about that cause it's a whole different topic. Let me just say there are A LOT of messed up things that happen in these communities that I'm not going to go into at this time, but the point I'm making from it is that more than 90% of the kids born in these communities stay in these communities! Why do you think that is? It's a simple answer and I think you know it. Kid's don't deserve to be raised by gays. It's my opinion and you may feel otherwise, but I think kids deserve better.

[QUOTE="chathuranga"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]But should we let our environment affect us unchecked and unchallenged?

Why not use critical thinking towards our environment? Is it tough or inconvenient? Or both?

Melpoe

I think saying it's "unnatural" is a completely ludicrous point, homosexual couples are naturally and innately attracted to each other so how is it any more unnatural that heterosexuality where the opposite sexes are innately attracted to one other. It's not as if they are going against any heterosexual urges they have because they don't exist Just because it is not a sexuality shared by the majority doesn't make it "unnatural".

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="chathuranga"] No. Showers and toilets are natural to me because I grew up with toilets and showers. I didn't grow up with homosexuality... That is why I find it unnatural. When I have kids or grandkids, maybe they'll have a different perspective on what's natural and unnatural because of their surroundings while growing up.chathuranga

Why not use critical thinking towards our environment? Is it tough or inconvenient? Or both?

Thats where I should have stopped: what anyone considers natural or unnatural is subjective and at the end of the day doesnt matter since natural does not necessarily equate to good/right and unnatural does not necessarily equate to bad/wrong.

But due to your subjective view of what is natural/unnatural and how you view those two terms, the lives of people will be decided. Thats why you should think of your preconceptions better and challenge them, in order to act responsibly.

The alternative and most reasonable scenario would be people not being asked to vote for something that is not of their business.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

I hate when people say we shouldn't care what happens in the bedroom. If theres abuse in the bedroom should that be kept in the bedroom too?

I personally don't have a problem with gays. If they wanna do that crap then whatever. What I do have a problem the whole marriage thing. I understand they want to be married for the benefits that come from marriage, but my problem is for those that would adopt or have kids. I don't think any kid should have gay parents... and I don't care what anyone says... being gay is not normal and kids deserve to have a normal childhood. I think having one parent is better than having two parents of the same sex.

Just my opinions...

Tomemogus

Yea it should be, why should I have to see their abuse? Not my business yo. Also your whole reasoning behind gay adoption has to be one of the silliest I've read in a while. What difference would a single parent vs two gay parents make? Kids get made fun of in school for all sorts of garbage it won't make a difference. Think of it this way -

If it's two manly gays then the boy doesn't have a mother, much like a single father situation

If it's two girly gays then he won't have a father, much like a single mother situation

If it's a girl and a manly it will be like normal parents :D :D :D :D

Oh ok your right... It's no ones business if there's child abuse going on in a bedroom because bedrooms are private and things that happen in bedrooms should stay in bedrooms. Lets let all the kids that get molested and raped continue to get molested and raped? Sorry thats not right to me.. but you have your opinion.

My reasons for it are simple. We learn the most when we are kids and take in a lot of information. Homosexuality is UNNATURAL. Ask any freaking scientist and I'm sure almost all of them would say the same thing. If we learn the most when were kids and we see our moms or dads kissing all the time what do you think your gonna learn from that? I live next to a community that has a ton of polygamists. Do you know what Polygamy is? Im sure you do. It's where one man marries multiple wifes. Do you think thats wrong? I guess it doesn't matter what you think about that cause it's a whole different topic. Let me just say there are A LOT of messed up things that happen in these communities that I'm not going to go into at this time, but the point I'm making from it is that more than 90% of the kids born in these communities stay in these communities! Why do you think that is? It's a simple answer and I think you know it. Kid's don't deserve to be raised by gays. It's my opinion and you may feel otherwise, but I think kids deserve better.

The rest of your post makes no sense (how you go from "point" a to "point" b is beyond me) so I'll leave it at that comment.

My reasons for it are simple. We learn the most when we are kids and take in a lot of information. Homosexuality is UNNATURAL. Ask any freaking scientist and I'm sure almost all of them would say the same thing. Tomemogus

Would they?

I'm not sure they would.

Kid's don't deserve to be raised by gays. It's my opinion and you may feel otherwise, but I think kids deserve better.

Tomemogus

Unfortunately, your opinion does not necessarily correlate with the findings of studies. The majority of children raised by gay parents are well adjusted.

[QUOTE="Melpoe"][QUOTE="chathuranga"] I have, and I have arrived at the same conclusion. Homosexuality is unnatural.dazman31

I think saying it's "unnatural" is a completely ludicrous point, homosexual couples are naturally and innately attracted to each other so how is it any more unnatural that heterosexuality where the opposite sexes are innately attracted to one other. It's not as if they are going against any heterosexual urges they have because they don't exist Just because it is not a sexuality shared by the majority doesn't make it "unnatural".

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] Do you also agree then with the notion that heterosexual couples with one or more sterile partners, or heterosexual couples where the women has entered menopause, or heterosexual couples that don't ever intend to have children, should not be allowed to get married?Danm_999

Heres the thing... how do you stop the rest? Some will get kids and thats where I disagree with it.

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.Tomemogus

But children aren't a neccessity to marriage. Never have been. So why now are homosexuals inability to conceive children suddenly thrown up as a critiera?

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Tomemogus

Thank you for the textbook slippery slope argument.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

Heres the thing... how do you stop the rest? Some will get kids and thats where I disagree with it.

Tomemogus

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Ok.... nice slippery slope fallacies btw.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

Heres the thing... how do you stop the rest? Some will get kids and thats where I disagree with it.

Tomemogus

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

My reasons for it are simple. We learn the most when we are kids and take in a lot of information. Homosexuality is UNNATURAL. Ask any freaking scientist and I'm sure almost all of them would say the same thing. Danm_999

Would they?

I'm not sure they would.

Kid's don't deserve to be raised by gays. It's my opinion and you may feel otherwise, but I think kids deserve better.

Tomemogus

Unfortunately, your opinion does not necessarily correlate with the findings of studies. The majority of children raised by gay parents are well adjusted.

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex. I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] You can't, and you don't, because marriage isn't conditional on whether you will or will not have kids. There is no law that requires you to be a parent in order to get married. Furthermore, you're worrying about a battle that's already been raged. Gay and lesbian partners are already allowed to adopt children, and Federal courts have ruled other states have to recognise these adoptions. Stopping them from becoming married is not going to prevent something that has already occured.testfactor888

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Congrats.

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex. I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

Tomemogus

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex.Tomemogus

You should care about his sources, they contradict several of your statements and thus make them look absurd.

Also, what the **** is this bollocks about "unnatural"? What do you mean? What definition are you using? Aren't you conflating "natural" with "normal"? How is it unnatural?

/semantical rage

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today.Tomemogus

Yes, but you're not going to find something pro-gay on FoxNews.com unless it's true.

So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex.I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice. Tomemogus

Two things.

First of all, you seem to be taking "natural" to mean "morally upright", in that you're admitting animals participate in homosexuality, but that somehow that it isn't natural (which is ridiculous; natural, quite literally meaning to occur in nature, is exactly the word that fits homosexual behaviour) . Something does not necessarily have to be what you consider moral, to be natural. Animals defecate in the open, that is natural. We don't consider it moral though.

Secondly, you seem to feel homosexual is innately immoral, and in your own words a degradation.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

Tomemogus

Segregation is the answer?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

Would they?

I'm not sure they would.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"] Kid's don't deserve to be raised by gays. It's my opinion and you may feel otherwise, but I think kids deserve better.

Tomemogus

Unfortunately, your opinion does not necessarily correlate with the findings of studies. The majority of children raised by gay parents are well adjusted.

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex. I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

I take it you'll be on the island one over where we should send all the ignorant, hate-filled people to die off yeah?

Whats your stance on the subject?

Im not religious but I feel it creates conflict, especially with the community of faith. It should not be allowed to move into the religion community as it will just cause conflict.

example of what im saying,

Leviticus 20:13,"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

AgentFreaks

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

Yeah I feel bad for those kids.

but

Things just get worse when gays get married. Your right marriage isn't always used to procreate or to have kids, but would say in most cases this is the case.Danm_999

But children aren't a neccessity to marriage. Never have been. So why now are homosexuals inability to conceive children suddenly thrown up as a critiera?

Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Tomemogus

Thank you for the textbook slippery slope argument.

It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE="AgentFreaks"]

Whats your stance on the subject?

Im not religious but I feel it creates conflict, especially with the community of faith. It should not be allowed to move into the religion community as it will just cause conflict.

example of what im saying,

Leviticus 20:13,"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

vg_plr77

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"][QUOTE="chathuranga"]I don't really agree with it and given the chance to vote on the matter, I would vote against it.chathuranga

[QUOTE="AgentFreaks"]

Whats your stance on the subject?

Im not religious but I feel it creates conflict, especially with the community of faith. It should not be allowed to move into the religion community as it will just cause conflict.

example of what im saying,

Leviticus 20:13,"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

vg_plr77

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

[QUOTE="AgentFreaks"]

Whats your stance on the subject?

Im not religious but I feel it creates conflict, especially with the community of faith. It should not be allowed to move into the religion community as it will just cause conflict.

example of what im saying,

Leviticus 20:13,"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

vg_plr77

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

A big NO from me. I don't agree with it.

It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

Tomemogus

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

Unfortunately, your opinion does not necessarily correlate with the findings of studies. The majority of children raised by gay parents are well adjusted.

dazman31

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex. I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

I take it you'll be on the island one over where we should send all the ignorant, hate-filled people to die off yeah?

I never said I hated anyone smart one. I simply don't think gays should be legally married. As well as I don't think drunks that get DUI's should continue to drive. As well as I don't think rape should be allowed. I also don't like illegal drugs. Does that make me a hateful person cause I have my opinions? If it does alright. At least the ignorant, hate-filled people won't die off... because we'll be able to have have kids. Sorry I'm not more liberal.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

But children aren't a neccessity to marriage. Never have been. So why now are homosexuals inability to conceive children suddenly thrown up as a critiera?

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]Also where do you draw the line? Maybe multiple wives should be allowed? Or for some maybe multiple husbands? Or next maybe we'll have 12 year olds getting married. My thoughts are that marriage should be between man and woman and this is mostly because of my morals that I have. You disagree apparently and thats fine.. but I just see society going to more hell because of it than it already is.

Tomemogus

Thank you for the textbook slippery slope argument.

It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

Danm_999

And I don't care?

[QUOTE="dazman31"]

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

I don't care about your links to whatever sources you have.. You can find anything on the internet today. The fact is your can't procreate being gay It's that simple So that natural part of life is to have sex with the opposite sex. I know animals participate in homosexual things... I've raised rabbits and seen them do it before. I guess if people wanna degrade themselves to the form of animals that have a too small of a brain to not know how their junk works then thats their choice.

My opinion is they gays should find an Island somewhere and go make their own community where they can get married. I suppose the only problem would be they would die off cause they couldn't create offspring.

Tomemogus

I take it you'll be on the island one over where we should send all the ignorant, hate-filled people to die off yeah?

I never said I hated anyone smart one. I simply don't think gays should be legally married. As well as I don't think drunks that get DUI's should continue to drive. As well as I don't think rape should be allowed. I also don't like illegal drugs. Does that make me a hateful person cause I have my opinions? If it does alright. At least the ignorant, hate-filled people won't die off... because we'll be able to have have kids. Sorry I'm not more liberal.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

Tomemogus

And I don't care?

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

Thank you for the textbook slippery slope argument.

testfactor888

It's my argument. I don't want a gay couple to have the same rights as a normal couple can have. And when I say normal couple I mean MAN and WOMAN. It's that simple. It's apparent that most of you disagree and thats fine. Thats your thoughts. I have my own opinions and they're not gonna change because of a few gay loving people.

Have a nice day.

I never said I could stop it and yeah I do see it coming. I think it's sad what this world is coming too. It's getting worse and worse. I'll continue to live my life like I do now. I have my opinions on things and I'll stand for what I believe in, but I know I'm only one person and I'm not going to make a difference. I will not however stop what I believe in.

[QUOTE="Tomemogus"]

[QUOTE="dazman31"]

I take it you'll be on the island one over where we should send all the ignorant, hate-filled people to die off yeah?

Danm_999

I never said I hated anyone smart one. I simply don't think gays should be legally married. As well as I don't think drunks that get DUI's should continue to drive. As well as I don't think rape should be allowed. I also don't like illegal drugs. Does that make me a hateful person cause I have my opinions? If it does alright. At least the ignorant, hate-filled people won't die off... because we'll be able to have have kids. Sorry I'm not more liberal.

It's not that I'm comparing them to "illegal activities" I'm simply stating that I have beliefs and if that makes me a bad person because I believe in something then I'm a bad person.

[QUOTE="vg_plr77"]

[QUOTE="AgentFreaks"]

Whats your stance on the subject?

Im not religious but I feel it creates conflict, especially with the community of faith. It should not be allowed to move into the religion community as it will just cause conflict.

example of what im saying,

Leviticus 20:13,"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Teenaged

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

Secular Marriage and Civil Marriage are sorta the same thing.

Civil marriage or secular marriage is marriage performed by a government official and not a religious organisation.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="vg_plr77"]

I just posted this on a different topic that's of the same subject matter. I did not receive any responses there so I figured it may be noticed on this thread. So here it goes.

Why would two people of the same sex want to be married through a religion that claims such an act as sinful? I understand the reasoning of two people in love wanting to take that companionship to a marriage level, but to do it through a Christian setting doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe someone here will be able to shed a little light on this, but I am doubtful. Most will say it's their right to be married through a Christian Church, but is it really? The Church is in place to preach the gospel, and to teach people to live according to God's standards. So if the Christian God does exist, and this Christian God did not intend for same sex relationships, then why would they feel that it's their right to be married through the Church. It perplexes me that people feel that their personal feelings should be held above rules that God has placed for us. My flame shield is up although I have not said anything resentful against a gay relationship. I'm just speaking out on those who think their personal feelings should be above the teachings of a God that they must be worshipping on some level since they want to be married through the Church.

I am not against the marriage of two people in love with one another. Please do not get my words twisted. My thoughts are solely focused on two people getting married through a Church setting that claims such an act as sinful. I'm not opposed to gay couples having a Civil Marriage, but it confuses me on why a gay couple would want to be married through the Church regardless of their personal faith. If it's depicted as a sinful act through their religion of choice then they should not push for their church to allow it.

vg_plr77

Secular Marriage and Civil Marriage are sorta the same thing.

Civil marriage or secular marriage is marriage performed by a government official and not a religious organisation.