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That's what we need, more theocratic states having access to powerful weapons. HoolaHoopManAnd the US isn't a de facto theocracy? Please... You guys are barely better, you just don't have as many fundies, but that's pretty much it.
[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]That's what we need, more theocratic states having access to powerful weapons. wis3boiAnd the US isn't a de facto theoracy? Please... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy read up, son I know what a theocracy is. The Church can wipe their ass with all the money they have over here, and are trying to get schools to teach creationism. That's why I said "de facto", because officially everyone knows it's "teh democracy". Calling me "son" is cute though.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]That's what we need, more theocratic states having access to powerful weapons. HeisenderpAnd the US isn't a de facto theocracy? Please... You guys are barely better, you just don't have as many fundies, but that's pretty much it. Barely better? I guess those basic rights of religious freedom, the right to vote, and the right to public assembly are just "Barely" better. Please join the rest of us in reality before you make ****ing stupid statements like that again.
EMP is the way to go...no technology=no food etc....lets face it everyone in here goes to the store to buy food and without technology there is no driving(cars have chips in them) therefore no food can be brought to stores and it takes the human 4 days to go insane without water or food and start to kill each other
What makes you think that Pakistan would want to sell? I swear, every time you post the evidence of just how ignorant and prejudiced you are shines through like a beacon. :roll:they should buy nukes from Pakistan.
Harisemo
[QUOTE="Harisemo"]What makes you think that Pakistan would want to sell? I swear, every time you post the evidence of just how ignorant and prejudiced you are shines through like a beacon. :roll:they should buy nukes from Pakistan.
Frame_Dragger
funny thing is ignorance and preduice applies to you and why do you take every post serious? I was joking about selling nukes.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]
they should buy nukes from Pakistan.
What makes you think that Pakistan would want to sell? I swear, every time you post the evidence of just how ignorant and prejudiced you are shines through like a beacon. :roll:funny thing is ignorance and preduice applies to you and why do you take every post serious? I was joking about selling nukes.
It's hardly the craziest thing you've said... why NOT take you seriously?[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]I do.who cares about Israel
ModernMuhCow
the United States care also, an attack on Isreal is an automatically declaration of war by the US
[QUOTE="Harisemo"]What makes you think that Pakistan would want to sell? I swear, every time you post the evidence of just how ignorant and prejudiced you are shines through like a beacon. :roll:
they should buy nukes from Pakistan.
Frame_Dragger
Pakistan rejects report on N-help to Saudis
I do.
[QUOTE="ModernMuhCow"][QUOTE="Flubbbs"]
who cares about Israel
resevl4rlz
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Harisemo"] I do.MysticGenie
First time I ever endorse anything by my government. If Israel continues to have nukes, and the West and East continues to play their charades of supporting and opposing Iran's program. I say we should have our own. What worries me most is whether Nayef will use it on us before anyone else though...Victorious_Fizelol, are you talking about me or a political figure/government official?
First time I ever endorse anything by my government. If Israel continues to have nukes, and the West and East continues to play their charades of supporting and opposing Iran's program. I say we should have our own. What worries me most is whether Nayef will use it on us before anyone else though...Victorious_Fizelol, are you talking about me or a political figure/government official?
First time I ever endorse anything by my government. If Israel continues to have nukes, and the West and East continues to play their charades of supporting and opposing Iran's program. I say we should have our own. What worries me most is whether Nayef will use it on us before anyone else though...Victorious_Fizelol, are you talking about me or a political figure/government official?
First time I ever endorse anything by my government. If Israel continues to have nukes, and the West and East continues to play their charades of supporting and opposing Iran's program. I say we should have our own. What worries me most is whether Nayef will use it on us before anyone else though...Victorious_Fizelol, are you talking about me or a political figure/government official?
[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]First time I ever endorse anything by my government. If Israel continues to have nukes, and the West and East continues to play their charades of supporting and opposing Iran's program. I say we should have our own. What worries me most is whether Nayef will use it on us before anyone else though...Nayef_shrooflol, are you talking about me or a political figure/government official? Presumably the crown prince of SA... not the shmuck on OT. :D
I'd rather be a hypocrite who controls nuclear proliferation than a morally sound cinder.in the end its the wests fault for many problems in the middle east. i think its hypocritical for us to say only certain ppl in the middle east can have nukes. i say everybody should have nukes
sinpkr
You think Al Saud are smart, they secretly support Israel. Victorious_Fize
lol. I advise people not to take this as fact. It's a ***ked up conspiracy theory that those who have a grudge against them and the country's constitution spread as truth, and those who follow Bin Laden's ***ked up ideology use to wrongly justify and brainwash recruits.
The majority of the country, as well as myself, take the quote as illogical and borderline idiotic. Yes there is financial corruption, maybe with Israel too. But not "support".
You're talking about Qatar when it comes to support.
[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]You think Al Saud are smart, they secretly support Israel. Aero5555
lol. I advise people not to take this as fact. It's a ***ked up conspiracy theory that those who have a grudge against them and the country's constitution spread as truth, and those who follow Bin Laden's ***ked up ideology use to wrongly justify and brainwash recruits.
The majority of the country, as well as myself, take the quote as illogical and borderline idiotic. Yes there is financial corruption, maybe with Israel too. But not "support".
You're talking about Qatar when it comes to support.
Oh please, the majority of the country isn't saying much you know... and I don't advise you to hide behind the majority as to exclude me and my positions, which are very much the same. By support I don't mean anything like the US or Qatar as you so imply, it's in relativity to the conflict, and in this case, I present you: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-06-12/news/30080586_1_israeli-jets-defences-attack-iran http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/wikileaks-u-s-saudis-reached-2010-compromise-over-israeli-made-cadillac-parts.html That's not to say anything about the treatment and championing of Palestinian cause, which says a lot on its own.[QUOTE="Aero5555"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]You think Al Saud are smart, they secretly support Israel. Victorious_Fize
lol. I advise people not to take this as fact. It's a ***ked up conspiracy theory that those who have a grudge against them and the country's constitution spread as truth, and those who follow Bin Laden's ***ked up ideology use to wrongly justify and brainwash recruits.
The majority of the country, as well as myself, take the quote as illogical and borderline idiotic. Yes there is financial corruption, maybe with Israel too. But not "support".
You're talking about Qatar when it comes to support.
Oh please, the majority of the country isn't saying much you know... and I don't advise you to hide behind the majority as to exclude me and my positions, which are very much the same. By support I don't mean anything like the US or Qatar as you so imply, it's in relativity to the conflict, and in this case, I present you: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-06-12/news/30080586_1_israeli-jets-defences-attack-iran http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/wikileaks-u-s-saudis-reached-2010-compromise-over-israeli-made-cadillac-parts.html That's not to say anything about the treatment and championing of Palestinian cause, which says a lot on its own. well I don't know about Saudi officially opening the airspace to Israeli jets, what I think would happen is that someone will conviniently simply not look at the radar screen when the time comes, followed by a condemnation by the Saudi government, along with a quiet sigh of relief on their part. also, Im assuming you know that boycott was almost dead anyways for the last 15 years, its really just on paper at the moment[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Aero5555"]Oh please, the majority of the country isn't saying much you know... and I don't advise you to hide behind the majority as to exclude me and my positions, which are very much the same. By support I don't mean anything like the US or Qatar as you so imply, it's in relativity to the conflict, and in this case, I present you: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-06-12/news/30080586_1_israeli-jets-defences-attack-iran http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/wikileaks-u-s-saudis-reached-2010-compromise-over-israeli-made-cadillac-parts.html That's not to say anything about the treatment and championing of Palestinian cause, which says a lot on its own. well I don't know about Saudi officially opening the airspace to Israeli jets, what I think would happen is that someone will conviniently simply not look at the radar screen when the time comes, followed by a condemnation by the Saudi government, along with a quiet sigh of relief on their part. also, Im assuming you know that boycott was almost dead anyways for the last 15 years, its really just on paper at the moment Only that they didn't officially open them up... they'll never do that. As for the boycott, dead or not, it doesn't change the point in the least. We have an obligation towards Palestine, and if that obligation is not done, then it is blatant support. Silence is a form of agreement, or as we like to say, al sokoot 3lamt al rida.lol. I advise people not to take this as fact. It's a ***ked up conspiracy theory that those who have a grudge against them and the country's constitution spread as truth, and those who follow Bin Laden's ***ked up ideology use to wrongly justify and brainwash recruits.
The majority of the country, as well as myself, take the quote as illogical and borderline idiotic. Yes there is financial corruption, maybe with Israel too. But not "support".
You're talking about Qatar when it comes to support.
Darkman2007
well I don't know about Saudi officially opening the airspace to Israeli jets, what I think would happen is that someone will conviniently simply not look at the radar screen when the time comes, followed by a condemnation by the Saudi government, along with a quiet sigh of relief on their part. also, Im assuming you know that boycott was almost dead anyways for the last 15 years, its really just on paper at the moment Only that they didn't officially open them up... they'll never do that. As for the boycott, dead or not, it doesn't change the point in the least. We have an obligation towards Palestine, and if that obligation is not done, then it is blatant support. Silence is a form of agreement, or as we like to say, al sokoot 3lamt al rida. but then if the boycott is dead, isnt any obligation like that mostly empty words? or is just the formality of it considered important? and here is something you might be able to answer me, why is it I hear from Palestinians that other Arabs "hate them", where did that from? (besides the lack of rights they get in most countries)? or is it just a case of "we don't like Palestinians , but we dislike the Jews even more" ? it puzzles me a bit. then again , Jewish history shows we are also quite capable of alot of infighting unless there is a common enemy, so for all I know it might not be any different at any rate , obviously this whole thing is a matter of "an enemy of an enemy is a friend" in regards to Iran and such.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Oh please, the majority of the country isn't saying much you know... and I don't advise you to hide behind the majority as to exclude me and my positions, which are very much the same. By support I don't mean anything like the US or Qatar as you so imply, it's in relativity to the conflict, and in this case, I present you: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-06-12/news/30080586_1_israeli-jets-defences-attack-iran http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/wikileaks-u-s-saudis-reached-2010-compromise-over-israeli-made-cadillac-parts.html That's not to say anything about the treatment and championing of Palestinian cause, which says a lot on its own.Victorious_Fize
Is it 100m? Also how do you get Nuclear arms? Wouldn't that cause cancer from the amount of radiation that your arms are giving off?
[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Only that they didn't officially open them up... they'll never do that. As for the boycott, dead or not, it doesn't change the point in the least. We have an obligation towards Palestine, and if that obligation is not done, then it is blatant support. Silence is a form of agreement, or as we like to say, al sokoot 3lamt al rida. but then if the boycott is dead, isnt any obligation like that mostly empty words? or is just the formality of it considered important? and here is something you might be able to answer me, why is it I hear from Palestinians that other Arabs "hate them", where did that from? (besides the lack of rights they get in most countries)? or is it just a case of "we don't like Palestinians , but we dislike the Jews even more" ? it puzzles me a bit. then again , Jewish history shows we are also quite capable of alot of infighting unless there is a common enemy, so for all I know it might not be any different at any rate , obviously this whole thing is a matter of "an enemy of an enemy is a friend" in regards to Iran and such.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] well I don't know about Saudi officially opening the airspace to Israeli jets, what I think would happen is that someone will conviniently simply not look at the radar screen when the time comes, followed by a condemnation by the Saudi government, along with a quiet sigh of relief on their part. also, Im assuming you know that boycott was almost dead anyways for the last 15 years, its really just on paper at the momentDarkman2007
The boycott is only dead because officials make it dead, this is a clear Tu Quoque fallacy. It's kinda of a big deal too, and everyone should be held accountable. Your question is very loaded and biased, so I won't ever bother. I will merely say that nobody hates Palestinians, and if there is, it is a very very small minority of muftinin and idiots. As for Iran, justifying it doesn't change it.
I find it hard to believe that even Pakistan would make such a stupid move; one that would cause international condemnation from their allies, and frankly give powerful weapons to a relatively unfriendly regime.
Frame_Dragger
lol you don't know anything about Pak-Saudi relations so just let it go.
in the end its the wests fault for many problems in the middle east. i think its hypocritical for us to say only certain ppl in the middle east can have nukes. i say everybody should have nukes
I'd rather be a hypocrite who controls nuclear proliferation than a morally sound cinder. I agree. The less nukes the better. I wish there werent any, but I'd rather not have them end up in the hands of every person.[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="sinpkr"]I'd rather be a hypocrite who controls nuclear proliferation than a morally sound cinder. I agree. The less nukes the better. I wish there werent any, but I'd rather not have them end up in the hands of every person. Yep... hypocrisy is underrated when it comes to international relations.in the end its the wests fault for many problems in the middle east. i think its hypocritical for us to say only certain ppl in the middle east can have nukes. i say everybody should have nukes
sonicare
@Harisemo: Coming from someone with such a poor grasp of reality, I take that as a vote of confidence.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]
@Harisemo: Coming from someone with such a poor grasp of reality, I take that as a vote of confidence.
again you say something that directly applies to you.
Ahhh... you're employing the, "I'm rubber, you're glue," strategy... very clever... :roll:[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Ahhh... you're employing the, "I'm rubber, you're glue," strategy... very clever... :roll:Harisemo
nah I'm just saying pot shouldn't call the kettle black.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]This is why Iran must be stopped. MysticGenie
*Scoff*
People like you said the same thing about North Korea and we all know how that turned out. :roll:
Everyone knows Israeli nukes aren't a threat to anyone unless you try to destroy them. Iranian and Saudi on the other hand...themajormayor
Speak for yourself. The Gulf states (including Saudi Arabia) and Iran don't share your view. They consider Israeli nukes as a potential threat to their national security and no amount of persuasive arguments will convince them otherwise.
No they don't. And what do you mean? NK didn't turn out good. They should be stopped too.[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Ahhh... you're employing the, "I'm rubber, you're glue," strategy... very clever... :roll:Harisemo
nah I'm just saying pot shouldn't call the kettle black.
Admitting you are the Kettle is a huge step for you.[QUOTE="Harisemo"]
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Ahhh... you're employing the, "I'm rubber, you're glue," strategy... very clever... :roll:pie-junior
nah I'm just saying pot shouldn't call the kettle black.
Admitting you are the Kettle is a huge step for you.you're winner
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